• Re: Transfer HDDs?

    From Graham J@21:1/5 to Frank on Tue Jun 24 20:01:13 2025
    Frank wrote:
    I have a new build desktop and was intending to move a couple of the
    'old' desktop's HDDs across until I saw the manufacture dates on them:
    - 14TB Toshiba MG07ACA14TE, August 2019
    - 10TB Seagate EXOS X10 ST10000NM0086, February 2018

    They're holding my long term collection of photographs and a whole bunch
    of seriously important files so I really don't need them to decide to
    give up the ghost after being reinstalled.

    Anyone got any thoughts?

    If they are the only repository of your files then you should back them
    up first, while they are still in the old desktop.

    Don't ever allow yourself to get in the position where you only have one
    copy of an important personal file!

    Once you have a trustworthy backup (so in your case two separate
    backups) then move the disks as you see fit. If they fail, then buy
    some new ones and restore a backup to them..

    Since they are HDD they could fail at any time irrespective of age,
    though the chance of failure probably increases with age.


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    Graham J

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  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to Frank on Tue Jun 24 19:39:35 2025
    On 24/06/2025 19:23, Frank wrote:
    I have a new build desktop and was intending to move a couple of the
    'old' desktop's HDDs across until I saw the manufacture dates on them:
    - 14TB Toshiba MG07ACA14TE, August 2019
    - 10TB Seagate EXOS X10 ST10000NM0086, February 2018

    They're holding my long term collection of photographs and a whole bunch
    of seriously important files so I really don't need them to decide to
    give up the ghost after being reinstalled.

    Anyone got any thoughts?

    Frank


    The dates tell you nothing about the actual run time

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  • From Frank@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 19:23:45 2025
    I have a new build desktop and was intending to move a couple of the
    'old' desktop's HDDs across until I saw the manufacture dates on them:
    - 14TB Toshiba MG07ACA14TE, August 2019
    - 10TB Seagate EXOS X10 ST10000NM0086, February 2018

    They're holding my long term collection of photographs and a whole bunch
    of seriously important files so I really don't need them to decide to
    give up the ghost after being reinstalled.

    Anyone got any thoughts?

    Frank

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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to Graham J on Tue Jun 24 23:06:04 2025
    Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> writes:
    Frank wrote:
    I have a new build desktop and was intending to move a couple of the
    'old' desktop's HDDs across until I saw the manufacture dates on
    them:
    - 14TB Toshiba MG07ACA14TE, August 2019
    - 10TB Seagate EXOS X10 ST10000NM0086, February 2018
    They're holding my long term collection of photographs and a whole
    bunch of seriously important files so I really don't need them to
    decide to give up the ghost after being reinstalled.
    Anyone got any thoughts?

    If they are the only repository of your files then you should back
    them up first, while they are still in the old desktop.

    Don't ever allow yourself to get in the position where you only have
    one copy of an important personal file!

    Once you have a trustworthy backup (so in your case two separate
    backups) then move the disks as you see fit. If they fail, then buy
    some new ones and restore a backup to them..

    Since they are HDD they could fail at any time irrespective of age,
    though the chance of failure probably increases with age.

    There’s a “two birds with one stone” option here: source new disks for the new computer, copy to those, use the old disks as the backups (with
    an actual backup strategy to make sure they stay current, not just
    leaving them to rot).

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Richard Kettlewell on Wed Jun 25 09:58:50 2025
    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    There’s a “two birds with one stone” option here: source new disks for the new computer, copy to those, use the old disks as the backups (with
    an actual backup strategy to make sure they stay current, not just
    leaving them to rot).

    Indeed. I would be tempted to keep the old PC as-is and share those discs
    over the network, that way they aren't disturbed inside the case with any
    risks of damage while transplanting them.

    After you've taken a good copy on the new PC, you could then designate the
    old PC as a network backup server, arranging to turn it on occasionally to
    take backups from new to old.

    Theo

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  • From Frank@21:1/5 to Theo on Wed Jun 25 11:28:46 2025
    On 25/06/2025 09:58, Theo wrote:
    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    There’s a “two birds with one stone” option here: source new disks for >> the new computer, copy to those, use the old disks as the backups (with
    an actual backup strategy to make sure they stay current, not just
    leaving them to rot).

    Indeed. I would be tempted to keep the old PC as-is and share those discs over the network, that way they aren't disturbed inside the case with any risks of damage while transplanting them.

    After you've taken a good copy on the new PC, you could then designate the old PC as a network backup server, arranging to turn it on occasionally to take backups from new to old.

    Theo

    Thanks both. I have a NAS box to which I backup my devices including
    these two drives. I can't keep the old PC as I don't have the space and
    will need to sell it on.

    Frank

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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to Frank on Wed Jun 25 21:01:22 2025
    Frank <news@nowherexxx.net> writes:
    Thanks both. I have a NAS box to which I backup my devices including
    these two drives. I can't keep the old PC as I don't have the space
    and will need to sell it on.

    In that case I don’t see a problem with moving the drives to the new hardware; if something does goes wrong you can restore from backup.

    In several decades I’ve only had one drive fail while being moved, and
    that was because I dropped it. (It was a backup drive so got moved to
    and from my offsite location once every couple of weeks.)

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