• Re: HP Stupidity

    From SH@21:1/5 to Davey on Mon Oct 16 12:02:02 2023
    On 16/10/2023 11:35, Davey wrote:
    I have four HP Laserjet cartridges, that need to be recycled, but have
    no boxes, they came from a disused printer. I was able to download four return labels from HP, but I still have no boxes. These are quite
    complicated things that are obviously designed to protect the cartridges
    from damage.
    The HP recycle website offers no boxes to individual customers, only
    new cartridges or toner refill kits.
    If you pretend to be a company, then you can get a large box,
    flat-packed, (shipped from the EU), but it still needs individual boxes
    to be placed inside it. It can take seven boxed cartridges, I have four unboxed cartridges. I assumed that they should be packed so that they
    cannot be damaged.
    I called HP, who said, basically, "Yes, that's right. You need to pack
    them yourself into the big box, and then call for that to be
    collected. We don't send out empty boxes for recycling old cartridges".

    This basically says to me that they don't care if the returned
    cartridges are damaged or not, I might as well just throw them
    randomly into the big box and send it off to them. I will wait until my current black cartridge is replaced, then add that (boxed!) before
    sending them away.

    And I had asked them three times, using their web contact form,
    about empty cartridges being sent out. The second time, they said that
    they had no record of the first time, but would forward the request to
    the relevant department, which never responded, and the third one was
    also ignored.

    Luckily, the printer involved has performed flawlessly.



    What you are supposed to do is buy a new cartridge, and use the
    cardboard box that the new cart came in to return the old used one with
    and stick the free address label that HP gave you.....

    simples.... :-D

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 11:35:01 2023
    I have four HP Laserjet cartridges, that need to be recycled, but have
    no boxes, they came from a disused printer. I was able to download four
    return labels from HP, but I still have no boxes. These are quite
    complicated things that are obviously designed to protect the cartridges
    from damage.
    The HP recycle website offers no boxes to individual customers, only
    new cartridges or toner refill kits.
    If you pretend to be a company, then you can get a large box,
    flat-packed, (shipped from the EU), but it still needs individual boxes
    to be placed inside it. It can take seven boxed cartridges, I have four
    unboxed cartridges. I assumed that they should be packed so that they
    cannot be damaged.
    I called HP, who said, basically, "Yes, that's right. You need to pack
    them yourself into the big box, and then call for that to be
    collected. We don't send out empty boxes for recycling old cartridges".

    This basically says to me that they don't care if the returned
    cartridges are damaged or not, I might as well just throw them
    randomly into the big box and send it off to them. I will wait until my
    current black cartridge is replaced, then add that (boxed!) before
    sending them away.

    And I had asked them three times, using their web contact form,
    about empty cartridges being sent out. The second time, they said that
    they had no record of the first time, but would forward the request to
    the relevant department, which never responded, and the third one was
    also ignored.

    Luckily, the printer involved has performed flawlessly.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to i.love@spam.com on Mon Oct 16 13:52:28 2023
    On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:02:02 +0100
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    On 16/10/2023 11:35, Davey wrote:
    I have four HP Laserjet cartridges, that need to be recycled, but
    have no boxes, they came from a disused printer. I was able to
    download four return labels from HP, but I still have no boxes.
    These are quite complicated things that are obviously designed to
    protect the cartridges from damage.
    The HP recycle website offers no boxes to individual customers, only
    new cartridges or toner refill kits.
    If you pretend to be a company, then you can get a large box,
    flat-packed, (shipped from the EU), but it still needs individual
    boxes to be placed inside it. It can take seven boxed cartridges, I
    have four unboxed cartridges. I assumed that they should be packed
    so that they cannot be damaged.
    I called HP, who said, basically, "Yes, that's right. You need to
    pack them yourself into the big box, and then call for that to be collected. We don't send out empty boxes for recycling old
    cartridges".

    This basically says to me that they don't care if the returned
    cartridges are damaged or not, I might as well just throw them
    randomly into the big box and send it off to them. I will wait
    until my current black cartridge is replaced, then add that
    (boxed!) before sending them away.

    And I had asked them three times, using their web contact form,
    about empty cartridges being sent out. The second time, they said
    that they had no record of the first time, but would forward the
    request to the relevant department, which never responded, and the
    third one was also ignored.

    Luckily, the printer involved has performed flawlessly.



    What you are supposed to do is buy a new cartridge, and use the
    cardboard box that the new cart came in to return the old used one
    with and stick the free address label that HP gave you.....

    simples.... :-D





    That is fine if you are replacing a cartridge in a printer you are
    using, but I have spare cartridges, over and above those that I have in
    use. So if I order a new cartridge, and remove it from its box, and
    send an old one back in that, I now have a new cartridge knocking about
    but not protected by its box.

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    Davey.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Theo on Mon Oct 16 16:40:39 2023
    On 16 Oct 2023 16:23:52 +0100 (BST)
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    That is fine if you are replacing a cartridge in a printer you are
    using, but I have spare cartridges, over and above those that I
    have in use. So if I order a new cartridge, and remove it from its
    box, and send an old one back in that, I now have a new cartridge
    knocking about but not protected by its box.

    In which case, wait until you next get a delivery of something else
    and reuse the box.

    Or your local council recycling centre may well take them (mine has a specific bin for them).

    Theo

    I was hoping for empty versions of the standard box they send a new one
    out inside of. It is very much designed with preventing damage in mind.
    But since HP don't appear to be worried, then neither will I be.
    Plastic bags and foam peanuts will do. I also have a sack of shredded
    paper....

    I like the idea of the recycling centre. Mine is a good trek away, but
    I go there every couple of months, so I'll see what their website says.
    Thanks for that.

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    Davey.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Davey on Mon Oct 16 16:23:52 2023
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    That is fine if you are replacing a cartridge in a printer you are
    using, but I have spare cartridges, over and above those that I have in
    use. So if I order a new cartridge, and remove it from its box, and
    send an old one back in that, I now have a new cartridge knocking about
    but not protected by its box.

    In which case, wait until you next get a delivery of something else and
    reuse the box.

    Or your local council recycling centre may well take them (mine has a
    specific bin for them).

    Theo

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