• Preview PDF export options

    From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 21 18:06:43 2023
    I'm just temporarily hiding some text on a pdf by plonking a white box
    over it (so at first glance it's invisible).

    Two options: 1. 'Export as PDF...' and 2. 'Export...' -> 'Format' -> 'PDF'

    If I reopen the first after export, I can highlight the text and see
    there's a shape underneath.
    If I reopen the second after export, I can actually drag the box away
    and view the text.

    Why the difference? Also, the second is slightly smaller (3.2MB vs 3.4MB)


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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Jan 30 10:13:17 2023
    Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm just temporarily hiding some text on a pdf by plonking a white box
    over it (so at first glance it's invisible).

    Two options: 1. 'Export as PDF...' and 2. 'Export...' -> 'Format' -> 'PDF'

    If I reopen the first after export, I can highlight the text and see
    there's a shape underneath.
    If I reopen the second after export, I can actually drag the box away
    and view the text.

    Why the difference? Also, the second is slightly smaller (3.2MB vs 3.4MB)

    It sort of suggests the first option creates a read only file but the
    second is editable. I wonder if the files behave similarly with other PDF
    apps?

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    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Jan 30 11:07:34 2023
    On 2023-01-30 10:13:17 +0000, Alan B said:

    Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm just temporarily hiding some text on a pdf by plonking a white box
    over it (so at first glance it's invisible).

    Two options: 1. 'Export as PDF...' and 2. 'Export...' -> 'Format' -> 'PDF' >>
    If I reopen the first after export, I can highlight the text and see
    there's a shape underneath.
    If I reopen the second after export, I can actually drag the box away
    and view the text.

    Why the difference? Also, the second is slightly smaller (3.2MB vs 3.4MB)

    It sort of suggests the first option creates a read only file but the
    second is editable. I wonder if the files behave similarly with other PDF apps?

    Yes. I'm not invested enough to investigate - the first option did the job :) --
    Cheers ... Mark

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Jan 30 11:10:41 2023
    On 2023-01-30, Mark <captain.blackl@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 10:13:17 +0000, Alan B said:

    Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm just temporarily hiding some text on a pdf by plonking a white box
    over it (so at first glance it's invisible).

    Two options: 1. 'Export as PDF...' and 2. 'Export...' -> 'Format' -> 'PDF' >>>
    If I reopen the first after export, I can highlight the text and see
    there's a shape underneath.
    If I reopen the second after export, I can actually drag the box away
    and view the text.

    Why the difference? Also, the second is slightly smaller (3.2MB vs 3.4MB) >>
    It sort of suggests the first option creates a read only file but the
    second is editable. I wonder if the files behave similarly with other PDF
    apps?

    Yes. I'm not invested enough to investigate - the first option did the job :)

    Yeah well if that would mean purchasing Adobe whatnot then you're well advised to stay put!

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    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Jan 30 17:23:18 2023
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2023-01-30, Mark <captain.blackl@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 10:13:17 +0000, Alan B said:

    Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm just temporarily hiding some text on a pdf by plonking a white box >>>> over it (so at first glance it's invisible).

    Two options: 1. 'Export as PDF...' and 2. 'Export...' -> 'Format' -> 'PDF' >>>>
    If I reopen the first after export, I can highlight the text and see
    there's a shape underneath.
    If I reopen the second after export, I can actually drag the box away
    and view the text.

    Why the difference? Also, the second is slightly smaller (3.2MB vs 3.4MB) >>>
    It sort of suggests the first option creates a read only file but the
    second is editable. I wonder if the files behave similarly with other PDF >>> apps?

    Yes. I'm not invested enough to investigate - the first option did the job :)

    Yeah well if that would mean purchasing Adobe whatnot then you're well advised to stay put!

    Most browsers can render pdfs natively so that's a cheap way to check. Not safari though as I think it uses the same renderer as Preview.

    As an aside, to truly hide text there's the "redact" option in Preview.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Alan B on Tue Jan 31 10:11:53 2023
    On 2023-01-31 09:18:28 +0000, Alan B said:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2023-01-30, Mark <captain.blackl@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 10:13:17 +0000, Alan B said:

    Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm just temporarily hiding some text on a pdf by plonking a white box >>>>>> over it (so at first glance it's invisible).

    Two options: 1. 'Export as PDF...' and 2. 'Export...' -> 'Format' -> 'PDF'

    If I reopen the first after export, I can highlight the text and see >>>>>> there's a shape underneath.
    If I reopen the second after export, I can actually drag the box away >>>>>> and view the text.

    Why the difference? Also, the second is slightly smaller (3.2MB vs 3.4MB)

    It sort of suggests the first option creates a read only file but the >>>>> second is editable. I wonder if the files behave similarly with other PDF >>>>> apps?

    Yes. I'm not invested enough to investigate - the first option did the job :)

    Yeah well if that would mean purchasing Adobe whatnot then you're well
    advised to stay put!

    Most browsers can render pdfs natively so that's a cheap way to check. Not >> safari though as I think it uses the same renderer as Preview.

    Actually I had noticed that and have seen other browsers such as Firefox sometimes do a better job.

    As an aside, to truly hide text there's the "redact" option in Preview.

    I’ll try to remember that!

    That looks useful!
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    Cheers ... Mark

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue Jan 31 09:18:28 2023
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2023-01-30, Mark <captain.blackl@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 10:13:17 +0000, Alan B said:

    Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm just temporarily hiding some text on a pdf by plonking a white box >>>>> over it (so at first glance it's invisible).

    Two options: 1. 'Export as PDF...' and 2. 'Export...' -> 'Format' -> 'PDF'

    If I reopen the first after export, I can highlight the text and see >>>>> there's a shape underneath.
    If I reopen the second after export, I can actually drag the box away >>>>> and view the text.

    Why the difference? Also, the second is slightly smaller (3.2MB vs 3.4MB) >>>>
    It sort of suggests the first option creates a read only file but the
    second is editable. I wonder if the files behave similarly with other PDF >>>> apps?

    Yes. I'm not invested enough to investigate - the first option did the job :)

    Yeah well if that would mean purchasing Adobe whatnot then you're well
    advised to stay put!

    Most browsers can render pdfs natively so that's a cheap way to check. Not safari though as I think it uses the same renderer as Preview.

    Actually I had noticed that and have seen other browsers such as Firefox sometimes do a better job.

    As an aside, to truly hide text there's the "redact" option in Preview.

    I’ll try to remember that!

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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