In article <trb28t$3qhkf$1@dont-email.me>, SM
<john.doe@myemail.invalid> wrote:
My MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012) with the 'hi-res' anti-glare screen has >> developed a vertical line a few pixels wide. The line doesn't appear on an >> external monitor and appears with both the Intel graphics and the discrete >> GeForce.
sounds like a hardware failure.
It very occasionally disappears. Is this likely to be fixable?
everything is fixable. the question is whether it's worth it.
for a macbook that's 10 years old, the answer is very likely no.
True - I've guessed it's either the panel or cable - pity as the laptop is till very usable with its quad i7 and an SSD.
SM wrote:
[snip]
True - I've guessed it's either the panel or cable - pity as the laptop is till very usable with its quad i7 and an SSD.
It's a design failure, really. If the monitor were separate it could be replaced without sacrificing the processor or SSD .
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop. A desktop arrangement with one or several monitors is much more useable.
--
Graham J
My MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012) with the 'hi-res' anti-glare screen has developed a vertical line a few pixels wide. The line doesn't appear on an external monitor and appears with both the Intel graphics and the discrete GeForce.
It very occasionally disappears. Is this likely to be fixable?
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
A desktop
arrangement with one or several monitors is much more useable.
SM wrote:
[snip]
True - I've guessed it's either the panel or cable - pity as the laptop is till very usable with its quad i7 and an SSD.
It's a design failure, really. If the monitor were separate it could be replaced without sacrificing the processor or SSD .
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop. A desktop arrangement with one or several monitors is much more useable.
In article <trb33r$3qlse$1@dont-email.me>, Graham J
<nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops (80%-20% for apple).
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops (80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
In article <trbdmt$3scej$1...@dont-email.me>, Graham J <nob...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops >>> (80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
no, nor does that change anything.
people generally buy what they need.
Simply not true.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops >>> (80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
no, nor does that change anything.
people generally buy what they need.
Simply not true.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
In article <trbdmt$3scej$1@dont-email.me>, Graham J
<nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops
(80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
no, nor does that change anything.
people generally buy what they need.
In article <CticncyFvYzH30T-nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, David
Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
Simply not true.Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops >>>>> (80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
no, nor does that change anything.
people generally buy what they need.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
the plural of anecdote is not data,
and i also said generally, not
guaranteed to always happen.
On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:31:28 UTC, davidkennedy@NOSPAMTODAYTHANKSVERYMUCH.invalid wrote:
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
In article <trbdmt$3scej$1...@dont-email.me>, Graham JSimply not true.
<nob...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops >>>>> (80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
no, nor does that change anything.
people generally buy what they need.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
But the difernce here is that is something wrong with the old laptop.
So why did you buy a new car , penis extention ? ;-)
nospam wrote:
In article <trb33r$3qlse$1@dont-email.me>, Graham J
<nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops
(80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop. A desktop arrangement with one or several monitors is much more useable.
It's likely a panel failure. Replacing the panel is the only option.
<snip>
You can. You replace the 'monitor' - the lid assembly: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255853115219
It's also possible to replace the panel alone, but that's more work.
Whether it makes sense to do so, when labour costs are involved, is a different question. It is possibly cheaper to just buy a used unit of a similar age.
On 31 Jan 2023 at 14:59:28 GMT, "Theo" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
It's likely a panel failure. Replacing the panel is the only option.
OK
<snip>
You can. You replace the 'monitor' - the lid assembly:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255853115219
Would be slightly tempting if it was the hires anti-glare. The regular ones of
that era are pretty awful.
It's also possible to replace the panel alone, but that's more work.
Whether it makes sense to do so, when labour costs are involved, is a
different question. It is possibly cheaper to just buy a used unit of a
similar age.
Thanks.
With single or small groups of stuck pixels a bit of massage can
sometimes fix them for a while. A whole column does sound like the
connection has come adrift so this probably won't help but worth a try.
My MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012) with the 'hi-res' anti-glare screen has developed a vertical line a few pixels wide. The line doesn't appear on an external monitor and appears with both the Intel graphics and the discrete GeForce.
It very occasionally disappears. Is this likely to be fixable?
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
people generally buy what they need.Simply not true.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
On 31 Jan 2023 at 21:50:42 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
With single or small groups of stuck pixels a bit of massage can
sometimes fix them for a while. A whole column does sound like the connection has come adrift so this probably won't help but worth a try.
I think I'll give the cables a wiggle just in case it helps.
Am 31.01.23 um 17:31 schrieb David Kennedy:
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
people generally buy what they need.Simply not true.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
A Zero-Argument and economically wrong.
On 01/02/2023 10:00, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 31.01.23 um 17:31 schrieb David Kennedy:So?
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
people generally buy what they need.Simply not true.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
A Zero-Argument and economically wrong.
What's your point?
Am 01.02.23 um 13:02 schrieb David Kennedy:
On 01/02/2023 10:00, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 31.01.23 um 17:31 schrieb David Kennedy:So?
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
people generally buy what they need.Simply not true.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
A Zero-Argument and economically wrong.
What's your point?
People generally buy what they need.
*Always*. Otherwise they act irrationally. And we are primarily
discussing MacBooks btw.
On 31/01/2023 16:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:31:28 UTC, davidk...@NOSPAMTODAYTHANKSVERYMUCH.invalid wrote:
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
In article <trbdmt$3scej$1...@dont-email.me>, Graham JSimply not true.
<nob...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops >>>>> (80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
no, nor does that change anything.
people generally buy what they need.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
But the difernce here is that is something wrong with the old laptop.True but we were referring to want / need. You need a replacement, whether you
need a laptop is a different matter...
So why did you buy a new car , penis extention ? ;-)
Probably.
It seemed like a good idea at the time and it still does!
SM <john.doe@myemail.invalid> wrote:
On 31 Jan 2023 at 21:50:42 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
With single or small groups of stuck pixels a bit of massage can
sometimes fix them for a while. A whole column does sound like the
connection has come adrift so this probably won't help but worth a try.
I think I'll give the cables a wiggle just in case it helps.
I'm not sure wiggling the cables is likely to help, but you could try pressing the screen at the top and bottom of the faulty line (both the visible part and the black border). It's where the driver is for that pixel column is - it's just possible there's a fracture and poking it might bring it back into contact. Of course that won't help if the driver transistor
(on the panel) for that column is kaput.
Theo
On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 17:05:23 UTC, davidkennedy@NOSPAMTODAYTHANKSVERYMUCH.invalid wrote:
On 31/01/2023 16:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:31:28 UTC, davidk...@NOSPAMTODAYTHANKSVERYMUCH.invalid wrote:True but we were referring to want / need. You need a replacement, whether you
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
In article <trbdmt$3scej$1...@dont-email.me>, Graham JSimply not true.
<nob...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Very few people actually need the portability of a laptop.
nearly everyone disagrees, given that laptops greatly outsell desktops >>>>>>> (80%-20% for apple).
You're confusing want with need.
no, nor does that change anything.
people generally buy what they need.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
But the difernce here is that is something wrong with the old laptop.
need a laptop is a different matter...
So meaning less, you might noit need a desktop when you have a phone or tablet
but do you really need either of those.
Do you actually need your car , does it give you oxygen or pump blood around your body. ?
will you die from malnitrition if you don't have a car ?
I can live without a car and live without a laptop, I can live without a yacht too.
Probably.
So why did you buy a new car , penis extention ? ;-)
It seemed like a good idea at the time and it still does!
So you didn't actually need it unless you do need a penis extention ;-)
On 01/02/2023 12:18, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 01.02.23 um 13:02 schrieb David Kennedy:Are we? I though we were debating want versus need...
On 01/02/2023 10:00, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 31.01.23 um 17:31 schrieb David Kennedy:So?
On 31/01/2023 16:11, nospam wrote:
people generally buy what they need.Simply not true.
I bought a new car last week. There was nothing actually wrong with the old one...
A Zero-Argument and economically wrong.
What's your point?
People generally buy what they need.
*Always*. Otherwise they act irrationally. And we are primarily
discussing MacBooks btw.
On 1 Feb 2023 at 10:47:18 GMT, "Theo" <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
SM <john...@myemail.invalid> wrote:
On 31 Jan 2023 at 21:50:42 GMT, "Bruce Horrocks" <07....@scorecrow.com> wrote:
With single or small groups of stuck pixels a bit of massage canI think I'll give the cables a wiggle just in case it helps.
sometimes fix them for a while. A whole column does sound like the
connection has come adrift so this probably won't help but worth a try. >>
I'm not sure wiggling the cables is likely to help, but you could try pressing the screen at the top and bottom of the faulty line (both the visible part and the black border). It's where the driver is for that pixel column is - it's just possible there's a fracture and poking it might bring it back into contact. Of course that won't help if the driver transistor (on the panel) for that column is kaput.
Theo:-)
This screen's got a large aluminium bezel - pressing it hard slightly affects the adjacent pixels but not the defective column.
--
Cheers, Stuart
On 31/01/2023 12:41, SM wrote:
My MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012) with the 'hi-res' anti-glare screen
has
developed a vertical line a few pixels wide. The line doesn't appear
on an
external monitor and appears with both the Intel graphics and the
discrete
GeForce.
It very occasionally disappears. Is this likely to be fixable?
Have a word with Jon Bramley
https://bramley-computers.co.uk
https://www.facebook.com/bramleycomputers
Jon was very helpful to me when my elderly sister had damaged her first
iPad.
He sometimes posts here in uk.comp.sys.mac Usenet group.
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