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    From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 2 11:22:38 2023
    Yesterday my Gmail accounts started getting the "You must login in to
    Google to enter your password" (or similar) pop-ups. All accounts were
    offline in Mail.

    Today 2 of my other usenet server (app) logins had lost their password,
    AND when I tried looking in Keychain for them it wouldn't allow me to
    view them ("You do not have permission on this account" or similar).

    Had a couple of other login/passord quirks as well...

    A restart has just fixed all of that (except Unison asking for the p/w
    every time I restart it).

    Just a randon glitch...?
    --
    Cheers ... Mark

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  • From Bruce Horrocks@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Feb 3 02:21:53 2023
    On 02/02/2023 11:22, Mark wrote:
    Yesterday my Gmail accounts started getting the "You must login in to
    Google to enter your password" (or similar) pop-ups. All accounts were offline in Mail.

    Today 2 of my other usenet server (app) logins had lost their password,
    AND when I tried looking in Keychain for them it wouldn't allow me to
    view them ("You do not have permission on this account" or similar).

    Had a couple of other login/passord quirks as well...

    A restart has just fixed all of that (except Unison asking for the p/w
    every time I restart it).

    Just a randon glitch...?


    In Ventura at least (and maybe earlier - I hadn't had cause to notice)
    Mail still connects to the mail server even though the account is offline.

    You can see this happening in the preferences > accounts > account
    information where there is an online/offline status message. That status
    seems to be checked regardless of the account enabled status.

    --
    Bruce Horrocks
    Surrey, England

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Bruce Horrocks on Fri Feb 3 09:42:14 2023
    Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
    On 02/02/2023 11:22, Mark wrote:
    Yesterday my Gmail accounts started getting the "You must login in to
    Google to enter your password" (or similar) pop-ups. All accounts were
    offline in Mail.

    Today 2 of my other usenet server (app) logins had lost their password,
    AND when I tried looking in Keychain for them it wouldn't allow me to
    view them ("You do not have permission on this account" or similar).

    Had a couple of other login/passord quirks as well...

    A restart has just fixed all of that (except Unison asking for the p/w
    every time I restart it).

    Just a randon glitch...?


    In Ventura at least (and maybe earlier - I hadn't had cause to notice)
    Mail still connects to the mail server even though the account is offline.

    You can see this happening in the preferences > accounts > account information where there is an online/offline status message. That status seems to be checked regardless of the account enabled status.


    I thought I noticed that at some point but wasn’t sure. All my mailboxes
    were offline (had the little indicator next to them). I’ve had that several times in the past and just needed to click ‘Take all mailboxes online’ (or similar). It’s very rare to get the Google pop-ups telling me to log in to each of the Gmail accounts though. It’s just the refusal to let me see my Keychain passwords that really threw me!

    All good after a reboot though.

    --
    Cheers … Mark

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  • From Bruce Horrocks@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Feb 3 20:50:51 2023
    On 03/02/2023 09:42, Mark wrote:
    Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
    On 02/02/2023 11:22, Mark wrote:
    Yesterday my Gmail accounts started getting the "You must login in to
    Google to enter your password" (or similar) pop-ups. All accounts were
    offline in Mail.

    Today 2 of my other usenet server (app) logins had lost their password,
    AND when I tried looking in Keychain for them it wouldn't allow me to
    view them ("You do not have permission on this account" or similar).

    Had a couple of other login/passord quirks as well...

    A restart has just fixed all of that (except Unison asking for the p/w
    every time I restart it).

    Just a randon glitch...?


    In Ventura at least (and maybe earlier - I hadn't had cause to notice)
    Mail still connects to the mail server even though the account is offline. >>
    You can see this happening in the preferences > accounts > account
    information where there is an online/offline status message. That status
    seems to be checked regardless of the account enabled status.


    I thought I noticed that at some point but wasn’t sure. All my mailboxes were offline (had the little indicator next to them). I’ve had that several times in the past and just needed to click ‘Take all mailboxes online’ (or
    similar). It’s very rare to get the Google pop-ups telling me to log in to each of the Gmail accounts though. It’s just the refusal to let me see my Keychain passwords that really threw me!

    All good after a reboot though.

    I was mistaken - in my case the the mail server was refusing connections
    and when that happens the 'checking' green light stays on for quite a
    long time until the connection attempt times out. When things are
    working normally, taking the account offline should result in a status
    of 'offline' and a red dot within a few seconds.

    --
    Bruce Horrocks
    Surrey, England

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