In article <1n7o6lt.1kh4mli1kfjwrN%nemo@erewhon.invalid>,
I have been using ClamXav for a number of years, as has Anne on her
machine.
It has never found anything on either machine - but then, that is in all
probability because there has been nothing to find.
exactly.
We don't get much
in the way of emails etc. from known users of Windows machines and
neither of us wander around websites we are unfamiliar with to any great
extent. Nor are we inclined to open emails of dubious provenance,
whether or not they are marked as spam.
that's good.
That being said, before I rush off and buy a licence for the new
version, what anti-malware apps do you use? Are there better ones, or
ones that are easier to set up (I've never been really sure that I've
got ClamXav set up really properly).
don't waste your time and certainly not your money.
anti-malware apps are completely worthless and cause more problems than
they try to solve, many times putting you *more* at risk.
<http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/144564/clamav_confirms_cr itical_bug_offers_patch.html>
A vulnerability in the popular open-source ClamAV anti-virus scanner
can be exploited by attackers to execute malicious code, a security
company announced Monday.
<https://www.idropnews.com/news/fast-tech/hazardous-bug-ironically-disco vered-mac-antivirus-software/33319/>
In an ironic and unfortunate turn of events, Google security
researchers have discovered a bug in Mac antivirus software that
exposes Macs to remote hacking. The critical vulnerability was
discovered last November, in ESET¹s Endpoint Antivirus 6 for macOS,
by Google Security Team members Jason Geffner and Jan Bee.
anti-malware tools need to hook into the operating system at its lowest levels to detect anything unusual, which means even the slightest bug
can cause all sorts of problems. one of my favourites is when norton
decided that the virtual memory swap files were malware. needless to
say, that did not end well.
an older article, but the problems have not gone away. they're just different ones now. <https://www.cnet.com/news/mac-os-x-anti-virus-software-more-trouble-tha n-its-worth/>
The bottom line is that Mac OS X virus software has, collectively,
precipitated more security flaws, slow-downs, accidental file
deletions and overall system issues than perhaps any other grouping
of software.
it's not just macs either.
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12390650>
Almost one third of internet users in the European Union caught a PC
virus despite the majority having security software installed,
statistics show.
<http://www.securityweek.com/antivirus-software-has-negative-impact-http s-security-researcher>
German journalist and researcher Hanno Böck has analyzed three
popular antivirus products and determined that each one of them
lowers security when they intercept HTTPS traffic.
I could always take the risk and forego the protection, but sooner or
later some b*****d is going to create a really nasty piece of Mac
malware...
maybe so, but it doesn't matter.
nothing you install will protect you and will almost certainly make
things *worse*.
malware authors intentionally design their malware so that it *won't*
be detected by existing tools, which means no matter what anti-malware
tool you use, you're still vulnerable. it's a false sense of security.
the solution, which you're already doing, is to not click links in
emails and do not install software from untrusted sources. do not
blindly type in your admin password any time you're asked either. think about why you are being asked.
having a good backup strategy is the best anti-malware tactic. in the unlikely event you are hit with malware, simply reformat and restore
from the backup.
References: <1n7o6lt.1kh4mli1kfjwrN%nemo@erewhon.invalid> <150620171246216927%nospam@nospam.invalid>
On 15/06/2017 17:46, nospam wrote:
In article <1n7o6lt.1kh4mli1kfjwrN%nemo@erewhon.invalid>,
John Hill
<nemo@erewhon.invalid> wrote:
allI have been using ClamXav for a number of years, as has Anne on her
machine.
It has never found anything on either machine - but then, that is in
probability because there has been nothing to find.
exactly.
greatWe don't get much
in the way of emails etc. from known users of Windows machines and
neither of us wander around websites we are unfamiliar with to any
extent. Nor are we inclined to open emails of dubious provenance,
whether or not they are marked as spam.
that's good.
That being said, before I rush off and buy a licence for the new
version, what anti-malware apps do you use? Are there better ones, or
ones that are easier to set up (I've never been really sure that I've
got ClamXav set up really properly).
don't waste your time and certainly not your money.
anti-malware apps are completely worthless and cause more problems than they try to solve, many times putting you *more* at risk.
<http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/144564/clamav_confirms_cr itical_bug_offers_patch.html>
A vulnerability in the popular open-source ClamAV anti-virus scanner
can be exploited by attackers to execute malicious code, a security
company announced Monday.
<https://www.idropnews.com/news/fast-tech/hazardous-bug-ironically-disco vered-mac-antivirus-software/33319/>
In an ironic and unfortunate turn of events, Google security
researchers have discovered a bug in Mac antivirus software that
exposes Macs to remote hacking. The critical vulnerability was
discovered last November, in ESET¹s Endpoint Antivirus 6 for macOS,
by Google Security Team members Jason Geffner and Jan Bee.
anti-malware tools need to hook into the operating system at its lowest levels to detect anything unusual, which means even the slightest bug
can cause all sorts of problems. one of my favourites is when norton decided that the virtual memory swap files were malware. needless to
say, that did not end well.
an older article, but the problems have not gone away. they're just different ones now. <https://www.cnet.com/news/mac-os-x-anti-virus-software-more-trouble-tha n-its-worth/>
The bottom line is that Mac OS X virus software has, collectively,
precipitated more security flaws, slow-downs, accidental file
deletions and overall system issues than perhaps any other grouping
of software.
it's not just macs either.
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12390650>
Almost one third of internet users in the European Union caught a PC
virus despite the majority having security software installed,
statistics show.
<http://www.securityweek.com/antivirus-software-has-negative-impact-http s-security-researcher>
German journalist and researcher Hanno Böck has analyzed three
popular antivirus products and determined that each one of them
lowers security when they intercept HTTPS traffic.
I could always take the risk and forego the protection, but sooner or
later some b*****d is going to create a really nasty piece of Mac
malware...
maybe so, but it doesn't matter.
nothing you install will protect you and will almost certainly make
things *worse*.
malware authors intentionally design their malware so that it *won't*
be detected by existing tools, which means no matter what anti-malware tool you use, you're still vulnerable. it's a false sense of security.
the solution, which you're already doing, is to not click links in
emails and do not install software from untrusted sources. do not
blindly type in your admin password any time you're asked either. think about why you are being asked.
having a good backup strategy is the best anti-malware tactic. in the unlikely event you are hit with malware, simply reformat and restore
from the backup.
=
This post by 'nospam' is probably the best I've ever read about the
ClamXAV software product.
Having made a number of changes to my iMac, this was the result of
trying to install ClamXAV recently:- https://ibb.co/YQgZZ7t
I have now asked PayPal to recover my payment!
On 28/02/2023 15:50, David Brooks wrote:
References: <1n7o6lt.1kh4mli1kfjwrN%nemo@erewhon.invalid>
<150620171246216927%nospam@nospam.invalid>
On 15/06/2017 17:46, nospam wrote:
In article <1n7o6lt.1kh4mli1kfjwrN%nemo@erewhon.invalid>,
John Hill
<nemo@erewhon.invalid> wrote:
in allI have been using ClamXav for a number of years, as has Anne on her
machine.
;
It has never found anything on either machine - but then, that is
greatprobability because there has been nothing to find.;
exactly.
;
We don't get much
in the way of emails etc. from known users of Windows machines and
neither of us wander around websites we are unfamiliar with to any
thanextent. Nor are we inclined to open emails of dubious provenance,;
whether or not they are marked as spam.
that's good.
;
That being said, before I rush off and buy a licence for the new;
version, what anti-malware apps do you use? Are there better ones, or >> >> ones that are easier to set up (I've never been really sure that I've >> >> got ClamXav set up really properly).
don't waste your time and certainly not your money.
;
anti-malware apps are completely worthless and cause more problems
they try to solve, many times putting you *more* at risk.<http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/144564/clamav_confirms_cr
;
;
itical_bug_offers_patch.html>scanner
; A vulnerability in the popular open-source ClamAV anti-virus
; can be exploited by attackers to execute malicious code, a security<https://www.idropnews.com/news/fast-tech/hazardous-bug-ironically-disco
; company announced Monday.
;
;
vered-mac-antivirus-software/33319/>lowest
; In an ironic and unfortunate turn of events, Google security
; researchers have discovered a bug in Mac antivirus software that >> > exposes Macs to remote hacking. The critical vulnerability was
; discovered last November, in ESET¹s Endpoint Antivirus 6 for macOS,
; by Google Security Team members Jason Geffner and Jan Bee.
;
anti-malware tools need to hook into the operating system at its
levels to detect anything unusual, which means even the slightest bug<https://www.cnet.com/news/mac-os-x-anti-virus-software-more-trouble-tha
can cause all sorts of problems. one of my favourites is when norton
decided that the virtual memory swap files were malware. needless to
say, that did not end well.
;
an older article, but the problems have not gone away. they're just
different ones now.
;
n-its-worth/>a PC
; The bottom line is that Mac OS X virus software has, collectively, >> > precipitated more security flaws, slow-downs, accidental file
; deletions and overall system issues than perhaps any other grouping
; of software.
;
it's not just macs either.
;
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12390650>
; Almost one third of internet users in the European Union caught
; virus despite the majority having security software installed,<http://www.securityweek.com/antivirus-software-has-negative-impact-http
; statistics show.
;
;
s-security-researcher>think
; German journalist and researcher Hanno Böck has analyzed three
; popular antivirus products and determined that each one of them
; lowers security when they intercept HTTPS traffic.
;
I could always take the risk and forego the protection, but sooner or >> >> later some b*****d is going to create a really nasty piece of Mac;
malware...
maybe so, but it doesn't matter.
;
nothing you install will protect you and will almost certainly make
things *worse*.
;
malware authors intentionally design their malware so that it *won't*
be detected by existing tools, which means no matter what anti-malware >> > tool you use, you're still vulnerable. it's a false sense of security. >> >
the solution, which you're already doing, is to not click links in
emails and do not install software from untrusted sources. do not
blindly type in your admin password any time you're asked either.
about why you are being asked.
having a good backup strategy is the best anti-malware tactic. in the
unlikely event you are hit with malware, simply reformat and restore
from the backup.
=
This post by 'nospam' is probably the best I've ever read about the
ClamXAV software product.
Having made a number of changes to my iMac, this was the result of
trying to install ClamXAV recently:- https://ibb.co/YQgZZ7t
I have now asked PayPal to recover my payment!
Neither the tial NOR the paid-for product worked as they should have done. https://ibb.co/5LKdX4g
Has anyone else experienced this?
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