My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age
and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I
bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at
school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went
to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly
to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28.
The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife
and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a
week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of
our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and
neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory
that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to
seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
--
Kind regards,
David
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 10:55:44 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age
and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I
bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at
school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went
to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly
to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer
guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28.
The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife
and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a
week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of
our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and
neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory
that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to
seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
I'm sorry to hear that but the questions I'd ask are.
Did he die from or via some form of computer virus?
and what was this scam back in 2005?
and how was it connected with to sons death in 1999?
The police
suggested that I destroy my computer,
The police
suggested that I destroy my computer,
excellent advice.
Indeed. I TOOK their advice,
In article <Ce%QL.352965$PXw7.16022@fx45.iad>, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The police
suggested that I destroy my computer,
excellent advice.
In article <vw4RL.331026$cKvc.269754@fx42.iad>, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The police
suggested that I destroy my computer,
excellent advice.
Indeed. I TOOK their advice,
and failed in completing the task.
In article <z46RL.1060046$gGD7.206760@fx11.iad>, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
The police suggested that I destroy my computer,
excellent advice.
Indeed. I TOOK their advice,
and failed in completing the task.
How so?
whoosh.
The police suggested that I destroy my computer,
excellent advice.
Indeed. I TOOK their advice,
and failed in completing the task.
How so?
My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age
and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I
bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at
school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went
to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly
to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28.
The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife
and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a
week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of
our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and
neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory
that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to
seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
On 3/17/23 03:55, David Brooks wrote:
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28.
That sucks.
That's exactly what we did and
neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
If too personal, don't answer:
How are you affording food, docking fees, Internet fees, repair work on
your boat? Trust fund?
Am 17.03.23 um 11:55 schrieb David Brooks:
My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age
and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I
bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at
school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went
to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly
to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer
guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28.
The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife
and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a
week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of
our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and
neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory
that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to
seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
What in this posting is Mac-specific or Mac-related?
On 17/03/2023 13:41, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 10:55:44 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age >> and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I
bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at
school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went >> to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly
to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer >> guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28. >> The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife >> and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a
week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of >> our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and
neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory >> that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to
seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
I'm sorry to hear that but the questions I'd ask are.
Did he die from or via some form of computer virus?No. Don't be a Silly Billy! :-P
and what was this scam back in 2005?
I was scammed of £245.00 by someone who claimed that I had purchased a mobile phone from them. It was a fraudulent transaction but it had been
paid by PayPal. I took up the matter with my credit card company (Marks
& Spencer) but, as I was away from home on my narrowboat, by the time I received the requisite paperwork it was outside of the 100 day limit for them to assist. In consequence, I had to take up matters with PayPal directly but they wouldn't conduct matters electronically - they said
the Internet wasn't sufficiently safe!
So the matter was dealt with by
snail mail over the following few months. Eventually, PayPal credited my account with £245 and that should have been the end of the matter.
However, on the very same day that I was awarded my funds, I received an email from the 'aggrieved party' who claimed that they HAD sold me a
'phone and wanted the £245 which had been reclaimed from them by PayPal. After exchanging a number of emails, they suggested that it appeared to
be nice where I lived and threatened to come and collect the money I
'owed' personally!. That is when I informed the police and ended up discussing matters with our then High Tech Crime Unit. The police
suggested that I destroy my computer, buy a new one and then learn as
much as I possibly could about all the bad things which go on on the Internet!
So, on a purely non-scientific basis, I've been doing the latter ever
since! In truth, I have been researching malware ever since 2005.
and how was it connected with to sons death in 1999?It wasn't connected.
--
David
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 14:58:45 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
On 17/03/2023 13:41, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 10:55:44 UTC, David Brooks wrote:No. Don't be a Silly Billy! :-P
My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age >>>> and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I
bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at
school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went >>>> to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly >>>> to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer >>>> guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28. >>>> The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife >>>> and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a
week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of >>>> our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and
neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory >>>> that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to >>>> seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
I'm sorry to hear that but the questions I'd ask are.
Did he die from or via some form of computer virus?
well I was wondering how your sons death was connected computer viruses .
and what was this scam back in 2005?
I was scammed of £245.00 by someone who claimed that I had purchased a
mobile phone from them. It was a fraudulent transaction but it had been
paid by PayPal. I took up the matter with my credit card company (Marks
& Spencer) but, as I was away from home on my narrowboat, by the time I
received the requisite paperwork it was outside of the 100 day limit for
them to assist. In consequence, I had to take up matters with PayPal
directly but they wouldn't conduct matters electronically - they said
the Internet wasn't sufficiently safe!
Seems a strange thing to say as they run their bussiness on the internet.
So the matter was dealt with by
snail mail over the following few months. Eventually, PayPal credited my
account with £245 and that should have been the end of the matter.
However, on the very same day that I was awarded my funds, I received an
email from the 'aggrieved party' who claimed that they HAD sold me a
'phone and wanted the £245 which had been reclaimed from them by PayPal.
After exchanging a number of emails, they suggested that it appeared to
be nice where I lived and threatened to come and collect the money I
'owed' personally!. That is when I informed the police and ended up
discussing matters with our then High Tech Crime Unit. The police
suggested that I destroy my computer, buy a new one and then learn as
much as I possibly could about all the bad things which go on on the
Internet!
That sounds highly unlikely to be efective.
Changing email addresses is the most logical.
Maybe those police officers you delt with didn't know much about the internet.
So, on a purely non-scientific basis, I've been doing the latter ever
since! In truth, I have been researching malware ever since 2005.
I'm not convinced malware was the cause of this.
and how was it connected with to sons death in 1999?It wasn't connected.
Ah right.
On 20/03/2023 12:08, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 14:58:45 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
On 17/03/2023 13:41, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 10:55:44 UTC, David Brooks wrote:No. Don't be a Silly Billy! :-P
My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age >>>> and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I >>>> bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at >>>> school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went >>>> to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly >>>> to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer
guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28. >>>> The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife >>>> and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a >>>> week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of >>>> our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and >>>> neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory >>>> that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to >>>> seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
I'm sorry to hear that but the questions I'd ask are.
Did he die from or via some form of computer virus?
well I was wondering how your sons death was connected computer viruses .There was no connection whatsoever!
and what was this scam back in 2005?
I was scammed of £245.00 by someone who claimed that I had purchased a >> mobile phone from them. It was a fraudulent transaction but it had been >> paid by PayPal. I took up the matter with my credit card company (Marks >> & Spencer) but, as I was away from home on my narrowboat, by the time I >> received the requisite paperwork it was outside of the 100 day limit for >> them to assist. In consequence, I had to take up matters with PayPal
directly but they wouldn't conduct matters electronically - they said
the Internet wasn't sufficiently safe!
Seems a strange thing to say as they run their bussiness on the internet.Indeed. I can recall being quite shocked at the time. I suspect that
things may well have changed bu now.
So the matter was dealt with by
snail mail over the following few months. Eventually, PayPal credited my >> account with £245 and that should have been the end of the matter.
However, on the very same day that I was awarded my funds, I received an >> email from the 'aggrieved party' who claimed that they HAD sold me a
'phone and wanted the £245 which had been reclaimed from them by PayPal. >> After exchanging a number of emails, they suggested that it appeared to >> be nice where I lived and threatened to come and collect the money I
'owed' personally!. That is when I informed the police and ended up
discussing matters with our then High Tech Crime Unit. The police
suggested that I destroy my computer, buy a new one and then learn as
much as I possibly could about all the bad things which go on on the
Internet!
That sounds highly unlikely to be efective.Or maybe these specialists *DID know! (ahead of their time!???)
Changing email addresses is the most logical.
Maybe those police officers you delt with didn't know much about the internet.
Do read here and educate yourself, Dave:- https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/researchers-unpack-unkillable-uefi-rootkit-that-survives-os-reinstalls/
So, on a purely non-scientific basis, I've been doing the latter ever
since! In truth, I have been researching malware ever since 2005.
I'm not convinced malware was the cause of this.I did find a Trojan, but you may well be right.
Using Trend Micro 'Housecall' I identified 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R'
as the possible culprit.
FromTheRafters thought some other item of
malware would have been involved.
and how was it connected with to sons death in 1999?It wasn't connected.
Ah right.Not everybody understands! Thanks.
--
David
On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 12:44:48 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
On 20/03/2023 12:08, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 14:58:45 UTC, David Brooks wrote:things may well have changed by now.
On 17/03/2023 13:41, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 10:55:44 UTC, David Brooks wrote:No. Don't be a Silly Billy! :-P
My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age >>>>>> and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I >>>>>> bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at >>>>>> school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went >>>>>> to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly >>>>>> to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer >>>>>> guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28. >>>>>> The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife >>>>>> and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a >>>>>> week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of >>>>>> our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and >>>>>> neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory >>>>>> that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to >>>>>> seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
I'm sorry to hear that but the questions I'd ask are.
Did he die from or via some form of computer virus?
well I was wondering how your sons death was connected computer viruses . >> There was no connection whatsoever!
and what was this scam back in 2005?
I was scammed of £245.00 by someone who claimed that I had purchased a >>>> mobile phone from them. It was a fraudulent transaction but it had been >>>> paid by PayPal. I took up the matter with my credit card company (Marks >>>> & Spencer) but, as I was away from home on my narrowboat, by the time I >>>> received the requisite paperwork it was outside of the 100 day limit for >>>> them to assist. In consequence, I had to take up matters with PayPal
directly but they wouldn't conduct matters electronically - they said
the Internet wasn't sufficiently safe!
Seems a strange thing to say as they run their bussiness on the internet. >> Indeed. I can recall being quite shocked at the time. I suspect that
Or they have better staff now.
Or maybe these specialists *DID know! (ahead of their time!???)So the matter was dealt with by
snail mail over the following few months. Eventually, PayPal credited my >>>> account with £245 and that should have been the end of the matter.
However, on the very same day that I was awarded my funds, I received an >>>> email from the 'aggrieved party' who claimed that they HAD sold me a
'phone and wanted the £245 which had been reclaimed from them by PayPal. >>>> After exchanging a number of emails, they suggested that it appeared to >>>> be nice where I lived and threatened to come and collect the money I
'owed' personally!. That is when I informed the police and ended up
discussing matters with our then High Tech Crime Unit. The police
suggested that I destroy my computer, buy a new one and then learn as
much as I possibly could about all the bad things which go on on the
Internet!
That sounds highly unlikely to be efective.
Changing email addresses is the most logical.
Maybe those police officers you delt with didn't know much about the internet.
Very much doubt that, with all the high end fraud and money laundering between countries and banks for millions
do you really think they'd put someone 'high up in tech' on your £245 case.
Do read here and educate yourself, Dave:-
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/researchers-unpack-unkillable-uefi-rootkit-that-survives-os-reinstalls/
Pretty meaning less for most. Few would be able to find it and utilies it. You claim to have been researching such things but have you ever found such a thing.
I did find a Trojan, but you may well be right.So, on a purely non-scientific basis, I've been doing the latter ever
since! In truth, I have been researching malware ever since 2005.
I'm not convinced malware was the cause of this.
Using Trend Micro 'Housecall' I identified 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R'
as the possible culprit.
which did what exactly ?
running scanning software isn't difficult.
In the late 80s early & 90s Macs did have viruses , most were quite harmless but annoying.
Sometimes hitting print would print your document but sometimes it would . There was a software called disinfectant that could remove and identify such things.
So I used to run it from floppies and HDs and servers.
On 20/03/2023 13:25, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 12:44:48 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
On 20/03/2023 12:08, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 14:58:45 UTC, David Brooks wrote:There was no connection whatsoever!
On 17/03/2023 13:41, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 10:55:44 UTC, David Brooks wrote:No. Don't be a Silly Billy! :-P
My younger son, Nick, was fascinated by computers from a very early age
and back in 1983, when I took early retirement from the Royal Navy, I >>>>>> bought a BBC 'B' computer for all of us to use. Nick studied hard at >>>>>> school obtaining 9 good GCE'O' levels and four 'A' levels. He then went
to Manchester University and read Physics. From there he went directly
to work for ICL (later Fujitsu) based in Stevenage. He became a computer
guru, probably much like you.
Sadly, in January 1999, he suddenly collapsed and died. He was just 28.
The autopsy found no cause for his death. As you might imagine, my wife
and I were devastated. We had a 'share' in a narrowboat and, during a >>>>>> week on board at Easter time, we decided to give up work, buy a boat of
our own and sail off into the sunset. That's exactly what we did and >>>>>> neither my wife nor I ever went back to work.
This might sound 'a bit naff' to you, but it is really in Nick's memory
that, since suffering from that scam back in 2005, I've been trying to
seek out the bad guys on the Internet, if you catch my drift.
If you have any questions, do ask.
I'm sorry to hear that but the questions I'd ask are.
Did he die from or via some form of computer virus?
well I was wondering how your sons death was connected computer viruses .
Indeed. I can recall being quite shocked at the time. I suspect thatand what was this scam back in 2005?
I was scammed of £245.00 by someone who claimed that I had purchased a >>>> mobile phone from them. It was a fraudulent transaction but it had been >>>> paid by PayPal. I took up the matter with my credit card company (Marks >>>> & Spencer) but, as I was away from home on my narrowboat, by the time I >>>> received the requisite paperwork it was outside of the 100 day limit for
them to assist. In consequence, I had to take up matters with PayPal >>>> directly but they wouldn't conduct matters electronically - they said >>>> the Internet wasn't sufficiently safe!
Seems a strange thing to say as they run their bussiness on the internet.
things may well have changed by now.
Or they have better staff now.That too.
Or maybe these specialists *DID know! (ahead of their time!???)So the matter was dealt with by
snail mail over the following few months. Eventually, PayPal credited my
account with £245 and that should have been the end of the matter.
However, on the very same day that I was awarded my funds, I received an
email from the 'aggrieved party' who claimed that they HAD sold me a >>>> 'phone and wanted the £245 which had been reclaimed from them by PayPal.
After exchanging a number of emails, they suggested that it appeared to >>>> be nice where I lived and threatened to come and collect the money I >>>> 'owed' personally!. That is when I informed the police and ended up >>>> discussing matters with our then High Tech Crime Unit. The police
suggested that I destroy my computer, buy a new one and then learn as >>>> much as I possibly could about all the bad things which go on on the >>>> Internet!
That sounds highly unlikely to be efective.
Changing email addresses is the most logical.
Maybe those police officers you delt with didn't know much about the internet.
Very much doubt that, with all the high end fraud and money laundering between countries and banks for millionsYes. 🙂 It was a national specialist unit - just to deal with cybercrime. Mind you, I did make a fuss with the chief constable!
do you really think they'd put someone 'high up in tech' on your £245 case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hi-Tech_Crime_Unit
Do read here and educate yourself, Dave:-
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/researchers-unpack-unkillable-uefi-rootkit-that-survives-os-reinstalls/
Pretty meaning less for most. Few would be able to find it and utilies it. You claim to have been researching such things but have you ever found such a thing.Only that one time - possibly.
I did find a Trojan, but you may well be right.So, on a purely non-scientific basis, I've been doing the latter ever >>>> since! In truth, I have been researching malware ever since 2005.
I'm not convinced malware was the cause of this.
Using Trend Micro 'Housecall' I identified 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R'
as the possible culprit.
which did what exactly ?Trojan:Java/Bytverify is a detection for malicious Java code that
attempts to exploit
a vulnerability in the Microsoft Virtual Machine (VM). This flaw enables attackers to
execute arbitrary code on a user's machine such as writing, downloading
and executing additional malware.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/threats/malware-encyclopedia-description?name=Trojan:Java/Bytverify
running scanning software isn't difficult.I was using a Microsoft Windows machine!
In the late 80s early & 90s Macs did have viruses , most were quite harmless but annoying.
Sometimes hitting print would print your document but sometimes it would . There was a software called disinfectant that could remove and identify such things.
So I used to run it from floppies and HDs and servers.
I first bought a Mac in 2009 - /because/ of all the malware shenanigans! ;-)
--
David
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