• Re: Anyone recognise this OS?

    From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 26 09:23:19 2023
    Am 26.03.23 um 05:34 schrieb Snit:
    On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote <op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:

    https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
    It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?

    I would say Windows with some sort of skin.

    Would be my guess as well.

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sun Mar 26 09:50:18 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    [snip]

    X-posts eliminated

    Waste of time unless all responders do the same.

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    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Mar 26 12:48:12 2023
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    [snip]

    X-posts eliminated

    Waste of time unless all responders do the same.

    Killfiling on Newsgroups: and/or Followup-To: contains
    "alt.computer.workshop" gets rid of that whole crew of pests.

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    ^Ï^. – Sn!pe – My pet rock Gordon just is.

    <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Sun Mar 26 12:18:21 2023
    On 2023-03-26, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    [snip]

    X-posts eliminated

    Waste of time unless all responders do the same.

    Killfiling on Newsgroups: and/or Followup-To: contains "alt.computer.workshop" gets rid of that whole crew of pests.

    Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I was blissfully
    unaware of the topic until he replied. Anyway I'm going to kf the topic / thread now so
    that'll be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. As for the OP's query, I don't know
    or care!

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 26 15:27:47 2023
    Am 26.03.23 um 14:18 schrieb Alan B:
    Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I was blissfully
    unaware of the topic until he replied.

    Do you really have a plan?
    I did not add anything I just deleted all other NGs. That's what killed
    your filter. Your problem not mine.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 26 15:29:22 2023
    Am 26.03.23 um 11:50 schrieb Alan B:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    [snip]

    X-posts eliminated

    Waste of time unless all responders do the same.

    All users responding in my subthread do exactly the same unless they add
    the groups back.

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Alan B on Sun Mar 26 15:15:51 2023
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 2023-03-26, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    [snip]

    X-posts eliminated

    Waste of time unless all responders do the same.

    Killfiling on Newsgroups: and/or Followup-To: contains "alt.computer.workshop" gets rid of that whole crew of pests.

    Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I
    was blissfully unaware of the topic until he replied. Anyway I'm going to
    kf the topic / thread now so that'll be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. As for the OP's query, I don't know or care!

    A little more k/f adjustment can solve that problem.

    [Followup-To: bit-bucket]

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    ^Ï^. – Sn!pe – My pet rock Gordon just is.

    <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

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  • From whisky-dave@21:1/5 to Commander Kinsey on Mon Mar 27 05:24:17 2023
    On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 12:02:47 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 10:23:26 +0100, David Brooks <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
    <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
    Commander Kinsey wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>
    IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
    motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it. >>>>>
    What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or >>>>> the software?

    🙄 :rolls_eyes:

    Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture


    So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't >>>>> we?

    The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to >>>> PCI.
    Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.

    You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. 🙂

    Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
    Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7....@fx11.iad>

    https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics

    Is there REALLY such a thing?

    I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection against
    it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in Quora is
    correct:

    ****
    Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software
    into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
    Detection:
    1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
    2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
    ****

    I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If
    it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used to >> have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume Macs are >> similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can you
    press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the OS like on a >> PC? I know there are some keys which do special things before the OS
    loads when the OS is needing fixed.

    As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac. But I'm willing to learn!

    I found this, which you may wish to explore:-

    https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode#:~:text
    They say "On older PCs" which is wrong, they all have a BIOS you can go into and change settings.

    They say "UEFI, or unified extensible firmware interface, is the name of the firmware in macOS that does the same job as BIOS on most Windows machines" which is also bollocks, modern PCs also use UEFI, but that doesn't stop there being a big menu of
    things to fiddle with. How else would you tweak stuff and overclock stuff?

    "Apple doesn’t allow users to navigate UEFI and adjust settings before the macOS loads" - ah now we get down to it. Apple controls everything, you don't get a say on how your own property functions.


    I'd say Aple know best when it comes to how a computer property functions.

    So what you need to do is download the BIOS for your mac and reflash it from within the OS. I bet you can't, and you have to pay an Apple shop a billion pounds to do it for you, because they couldn't possibly trust end users to do that.

    I doubt many end users know more about an Apple computer than those that designed it.


    Get a PC.

    My iMac is coming up to 13 year and is functioning quite well.
    But 5 (was 2 faulty at christmas) of the 96 PCs out in the lab which are approaching 4.5 years old, their screens are dying.
    We're hoping the rest will last until the end of the academic year.

    I'll stick to a more reliable Apple. I don't feel the need to tweek any setting to make it less relible what would be the point ?

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  • From HunterBD (ASC nym)@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 19:32:42 2023
    On 26/03/2023 12:48, Sn!pe wrote:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    [snip]

    X-posts eliminated

    Waste of time unless all responders do the same.

    Killfiling on Newsgroups: and/or Followup-To: contains "alt.computer.workshop" gets rid of that whole crew of pests.

    You really are an arrogant toerag, Snippy!

    You do KNOW that, right?!!

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 22:06:08 2023
    Am 26.03.23 um 16:15 schrieb Sn!pe:
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I
    was blissfully unaware of the topic until he replied. Anyway I'm going to
    kf the topic / thread now so that'll be the end of it as far as I'm
    concerned. As for the OP's query, I don't know or care!

    A little more k/f adjustment can solve that problem.

    [Followup-To: bit-bucket]

    User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.6b1 (ed136d9b90) (Mac OS 10.14.6)
    This dinosaur masters filtering? What a surprise.

    FUP2 reinstated

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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 09:09:31 2023
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 09:53:02 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

    If I said that publicly, people (trolls especially) might figure out how to defeat the filters!

    At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.

    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which worked differently.

    John.
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    An infinitely complex system can fail in an infinite number of ways.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 11:11:32 2023
    Am 28.03.23 um 10:42 schrieb John Hill:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What does that tell you?
    I have absolutely no intention to allow X-posting into groups I do not read.

    Adjust your filters. Just suppressing postings that are crossposted into another specific group is too simple.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 11:14:37 2023
    Am 28.03.23 um 10:53 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

    I guess your and clumsy militaristic Kinsey's spam to
    alt.computer.workshop. My 5 cts.

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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Tue Mar 28 08:42:40 2023
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would otherwise be suppressed.

    J.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to John Hill on Tue Mar 28 09:53:02 2023
    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 11:17:26 2023
    Am 28.03.23 um 11:09 schrieb John Hill:
    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which worked differently.

    McSoup is a dinosaur from times when postings were downloaded in batches
    which made filtering on the body possible. Modern Usenet-clients work differently which makes filtering on bodies impossible.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to John Hill on Tue Mar 28 11:31:10 2023
    On 28/03/2023 10:09, John Hill wrote:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 09:53:02 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

    If I said that publicly, people (trolls especially) might figure out how to defeat the filters!

    What is the difference beween YOU and a so-called Troll?

    Are you, in some way, more important than other folk who wish to post in
    a Usenet group?

    (no disrespect intended!)

    At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.

    Joerg is FULL of self-importance!

    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which worked differently.

    Thank you for explaining that.

    --
    David

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Tue Mar 28 12:18:33 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 28.03.23 um 11:09 schrieb John Hill:
    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which worked differently.

    McSoup is a dinosaur from times when postings were downloaded in batches which made filtering on the body possible. Modern Usenet-clients work differently which makes filtering on bodies impossible.

    I've just seen this, please disregard my adjacent query.

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    <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 16:35:56 2023
    Am 28.03.23 um 12:31 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 28/03/2023 10:09, John Hill wrote:
    At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.

    Joerg is FULL of self-importance!

    You or others do not determine where my or other people's postings go.
    Does that fit into your bird brain?


    --
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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 09:06:45 2023
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 11:31:10 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 10:09, John Hill wrote:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 09:53:02 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
    wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >>>>
    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

    If I said that publicly, people (trolls especially) might figure out how to >> defeat the filters!

    What is the difference beween YOU and a so-called Troll?

    Basically, nothing.


    Are you, in some way, more important than other folk who wish to post in
    a Usenet group?

    (no disrespect intended!)

    None taken.


    At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.

    Joerg is FULL of self-importance!

    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which
    worked differently.

    Thank you for explaining that.

    I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly.

    See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.

    It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers
    are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!

    John.
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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Wed Mar 29 09:36:12 2023
    On 29 Mar 2023 at 10:18:10 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 29.03.23 um 11:06 schrieb John Hill:
    I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly. >>
    See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.

    It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era
    when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers >> are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!

    This is a misunderstanding of the mechanics. To download just the
    headers was not an option in modem-times. Each and every time you wanted
    to read a message you would have had to redial to get the message.

    Nowadays it takes a fraction of a second to get the body of a
    Usenet-message when you click on it. Modern clients in most cases master
    both processes but the idea is to download only what is nedded (=online readers).

    Very reasonable.

    I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up
    connect sound was very nostalgic.

    Would make an interesting ring-tone!

    Sorry, wandering more and more OT :-(

    John.
    --
    God made the integers; all else is the work of man.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 11:18:10 2023
    Am 29.03.23 um 11:06 schrieb John Hill:
    I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly.

    See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.

    It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!

    This is a misunderstanding of the mechanics. To download just the
    headers was not an option in modem-times. Each and every time you wanted
    to read a message you would have had to redial to get the message.

    Nowadays it takes a fraction of a second to get the body of a
    Usenet-message when you click on it. Modern clients in most cases master
    both processes but the idea is to download only what is nedded (=online readers).

    --
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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to John Hill on Wed Mar 29 13:06:58 2023
    On 29/03/2023 10:06, John Hill wrote:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 11:31:10 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 10:09, John Hill wrote:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 09:53:02 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >>> wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >>>>>
    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

    If I said that publicly, people (trolls especially) might figure out how to >>> defeat the filters!

    What is the difference beween YOU and a so-called Troll?

    Basically, nothing.

    Just as I thought! :-)

    Are you, in some way, more important than other folk who wish to post in
    a Usenet group?

    (no disrespect intended!)

    None taken.

    I'm really pleased about that!

    At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.

    Joerg is FULL of self-importance!

    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which >>> worked differently.

    Thank you for explaining that.

    I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly.

    Andre seems like a very fine fellow!

    See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.

    It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!

    Everything is so very quick nowadays, so I don't understand why many of
    the folkhere are rather up-themselves.
    What difference does it make who posts whatever they wish about whatever
    they want? (Rhetorical question!)

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

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  • From whisky-dave@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Wed Mar 29 07:56:31 2023
    On Wednesday, 29 March 2023 at 13:07:01 UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 29/03/2023 10:06, John Hill wrote:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 11:31:10 BST, "David Brooks" <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 10:09, John Hill wrote:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 09:53:02 BST, "David Brooks" <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> >>> wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugy...@gmx.ch> wrote: >>>>>
    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

    If I said that publicly, people (trolls especially) might figure out how to
    defeat the filters!

    What is the difference beween YOU and a so-called Troll?

    Basically, nothing.
    Just as I thought! :-)
    Are you, in some way, more important than other folk who wish to post in >> a Usenet group?

    (no disrespect intended!)

    None taken.
    I'm really pleased about that!
    At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.

    Joerg is FULL of self-importance!

    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which >>> worked differently.

    Thank you for explaining that.

    I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly.
    Andre seems like a very fine fellow!
    See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.

    It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era
    when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!

    I don't think whole messages were downloaded.
    It was just the headers or what we sometimes refer to as the subject line
    and a few other details .


    Everything is so very quick nowadays,

    Not always. depends on the usages at the time.
    We regually have this problem during on-line tests or exams 1000s of students all logging on at the same time.
    Alsi everytime a students in thier 100s got from one classtooom to another their phones & laptop
    switch wireless networks this can send the whole wireless network into freeze mode.

    so I don't understand why many of
    the folkhere are rather up-themselves.
    What difference does it make who posts whatever they wish about whatever
    they want? (Rhetorical question!)

    These can get answered using many methods including violence which is sometimes the only method that works. :)


    --
    Kind regards,
    David

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to dob on Mon Apr 3 21:56:24 2023
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:15:13 +0100, dob <email@domain.com> wrote:

    On 2023-03-26 03:23:30 +0000, Commander Kinsey said:

    https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
    It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?

    to windowblinds you go

    speak english not?

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Apr 6 02:28:27 2023
    On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:27:47 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 26.03.23 um 14:18 schrieb Alan B:
    Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I was blissfully
    unaware of the topic until he replied.

    Do you really have a plan?
    I did not add anything I just deleted all other NGs. That's what killed
    your filter. Your problem not mine.

    Oh look at all the children playing with their broken filters.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Apr 6 02:26:37 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.computer.workshop

    On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 08:23:19 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 26.03.23 um 05:34 schrieb Snit:
    On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
    <op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:

    https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
    It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?

    I would say Windows with some sort of skin.

    Would be my guess as well.

    X-posts eliminated

    I'll eliminate you in a minute.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Thu Apr 6 02:27:39 2023
    On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 12:48:12 +0100, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    [snip]

    X-posts eliminated

    Waste of time unless all responders do the same.

    Killfiling on Newsgroups: and/or Followup-To: contains "alt.computer.workshop" gets rid of that whole crew of pests.

    I killfile all followup-to posts. That header should never be used. A reply going to where it's not expected will not be tolerated.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Apr 6 02:29:22 2023
    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 10:14:37 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 28.03.23 um 10:53 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

    I guess your and clumsy militaristic Kinsey's spam to
    alt.computer.workshop. My 5 cts.

    Then filter us duh.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Apr 6 02:30:26 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 10:17:26 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 28.03.23 um 11:09 schrieb John Hill:
    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which
    worked differently.

    McSoup is a dinosaur from times when postings were downloaded in batches which made filtering on the body possible. Modern Usenet-clients work differently which makes filtering on bodies impossible.

    You're a fucking idiot. Unless you have an exceedingly slow internet connection, all bodies are downloaded along with the headers, therefore can be filtered on.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Apr 6 02:31:03 2023
    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 15:35:56 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 28.03.23 um 12:31 schrieb David Brooks:
    On 28/03/2023 10:09, John Hill wrote:
    At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.

    Joerg is FULL of self-importance!

    You or others do not determine where my or other people's postings go.
    Does that fit into your bird brain?

    Cut the cryptic shite.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Apr 6 02:32:33 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:18:10 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 29.03.23 um 11:06 schrieb John Hill:
    I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly. >>
    See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.

    It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era
    when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers >> are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!

    This is a misunderstanding of the mechanics. To download just the
    headers was not an option in modem-times. Each and every time you wanted
    to read a message you would have had to redial to get the message.

    Nowadays it takes a fraction of a second to get the body of a
    Usenet-message when you click on it. Modern clients in most cases master
    both processes but the idea is to download only what is nedded (=online readers).

    What a monumentally stupid idea. Why download twice and remove the ability to search/filter/whatever on the bodies?

    I use a proper newsreader which downloads everything at once, so it's all right here on my disk to do as I wish with.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to John Hill on Thu Apr 6 02:33:08 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:36:12 +0100, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    On 29 Mar 2023 at 10:18:10 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 29.03.23 um 11:06 schrieb John Hill:
    I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly. >>>
    See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.

    It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era
    when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers >>> are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!

    This is a misunderstanding of the mechanics. To download just the
    headers was not an option in modem-times. Each and every time you wanted
    to read a message you would have had to redial to get the message.

    Nowadays it takes a fraction of a second to get the body of a
    Usenet-message when you click on it. Modern clients in most cases master
    both processes but the idea is to download only what is nedded (=online
    readers).

    Very reasonable.

    I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up connect sound was very nostalgic.

    Would make an interesting ring-tone!

    I've got a very unusual ringtone. It sounds like a telephone.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Thu Apr 6 02:34:02 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:06:58 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 29/03/2023 10:06, John Hill wrote:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 11:31:10 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
    wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 10:09, John Hill wrote:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 09:53:02 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >>>>>>
    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?

    If I said that publicly, people (trolls especially) might figure out how to
    defeat the filters!

    What is the difference beween YOU and a so-called Troll?

    Basically, nothing.

    Just as I thought! :-)

    Are you, in some way, more important than other folk who wish to post in >>> a Usenet group?

    (no disrespect intended!)

    None taken.

    I'm really pleased about that!

    At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.

    Joerg is FULL of self-importance!

    Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which >>>> worked differently.

    Thank you for explaining that.

    I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly.

    Andre seems like a very fine fellow!

    See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.

    It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era
    when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers >> are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!

    Everything is so very quick nowadays, so I don't understand why many of
    the folkhere are rather up-themselves.
    What difference does it make who posts whatever they wish about whatever
    they want? (Rhetorical question!)

    They're geeks/programmers/network admins. Or in English, arrogant OCD cunts.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to John Hill on Thu Apr 6 02:29:00 2023
    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:42:40 +0100, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    X-posts eliminated

    I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
    otherwise be suppressed.

    This is funny, two people trying to filter the same thing causing a short circuit.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 07:32:24 2023
    Am 06.04.23 um 03:28 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
    On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:27:47 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 26.03.23 um 14:18 schrieb Alan B:
    Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I was blissfully
    unaware of the topic until he replied.

    Do you really have a plan?
    I did not add anything I just deleted all other NGs. That's what killed
    your filter. Your problem not mine.

    Oh look at all the children playing with their broken filters.

    Two weeks after the fact? Idiot.

    --
    De gustibus non est disputandum

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 07:35:23 2023
    Am 06.04.23 um 03:26 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
    On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:29:22 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    Am 26.03.23 um 11:50 schrieb Alan B:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

    [snip]

    X-posts eliminated

    Waste of time unless all responders do the same.

    All users responding in my subthread do exactly the same unless they add
    the groups back.

    Fuck off mine fuhrer.

    Two weeks after the fact?
    Did they forget to turn off your router in the looney-bin?


    --
    De gustibus non est disputandum

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 09:47:24 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    [snip]

    I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up
    connect sound was very nostalgic.

    Would make an interesting ring-tone!

    I've got a very unusual ringtone.  It sounds like a telephone.

    I have one like that too. Not many do so it's easy to tell when its my
    phone.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Orthodoxy means not thinking -- not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness" -- George Orwell

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Thu Apr 6 18:25:12 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    [snip]

    I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up
    connect sound was very nostalgic.

    Would make an interesting ring-tone!

    I've got a very unusual ringtone. It sounds like a telephone.

    I have one like that too. Not many do so it's easy to tell when its my
    phone.

    Mine is 'CQ' in Morse code or, if known, the caller's nickname in Morse.

    --
    ^Ï^. – Sn!pe – My pet rock Gordon just is.

    <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Sat Apr 15 19:40:15 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 18:25:12 +0100, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    [snip]

    I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up >> >> connect sound was very nostalgic.

    Would make an interesting ring-tone!

    I've got a very unusual ringtone. It sounds like a telephone.

    I have one like that too. Not many do so it's easy to tell when its my
    phone.

    Mine is 'CQ' in Morse code or, if known, the caller's nickname in Morse.

    Can you understand Morse on hearing it? I didn't think many folk could.

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  • From Commander Kinsey@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Sat Apr 15 19:41:23 2023
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 15:47:24 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    [snip]

    I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up
    connect sound was very nostalgic.

    Would make an interesting ring-tone!

    I've got a very unusual ringtone. It sounds like a telephone.

    I have one like that too. Not many do so it's easy to tell when its my
    phone.

    When my dad heard mine he didn't recognise it as a phone, mind you it's an American bell, I couldn't find a recording of a proper British one. American phones sound underwater. There's two frequencies at once, not in tune with each other, it sounds
    depressed.

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