• Re: Can Jews be Nazis?

    From My m8!@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 20 14:28:05 2024
    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> posted:

    On Sun, 19 May 24 23:57:56 UTC, NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy>
    wrote:

    BY STEPHEN F. EISENMAN


    For many people, the question is inflammatory. The crimes of the
    German Nazis were of such magnitude that comparison with any other >historical violence is invidious. The genocide of the Jews was
    deliberate and methodical and intended to eliminate every last one.
    The goal was the same with the Romani and Sinti people. By comparison,
    the Israelis � currently accused of genocide � are rank amateurs. They >have so far killed some 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza out of a
    population of 2.3 million.

    But the question, �Can Jews be Nazis?� is nevertheless important for >challenging claims of moral inoculation by virtue of the Jewish
    experience of the Holocaust. If Israeli leaders are indeed committing
    a genocide in Gaza � as seems the case � they inhabit the same moral >universe as the German Nazis, regardless of the suffering of past >generations. In addition to the 35,000 killed, the war in Gaza has
    injured another 75,000 and displaced 2 million. Most of the victims
    are women and children � how can their deaths be justified? Israeli >cabinet ministers, Knesset members, military personnel, and police
    have all freely spoken of their wish to force Palestinians into Egypt, >establish Jewish-only settlements in Gaza, and even use an atomic bomb
    to kill everyone in the Gaza strip. (U.S. senator Lindsay Graham
    recently also suggested using a nuclear weapon against Gaza.)


    At the end of WWII, German cities and industry were heaps of burnt
    rubble, much worse than Gaza today. Half of Germany was occupied by
    the USSR. About 6 million jews had been starved and gassed to death by
    the nazis. About 100 million people died in WWII.

    Israel wants to survive and is arguably doing what it must do to
    survive. The bad guys aren't Israel, they are Iran and Hamas and the
    many other savages, kidnappers, bombers, and rapists.

    Agreed.

    The extreme islamists want to kill all the jews and take their land.
    The citizens of Israel of course object. Thay have atom bombs and
    haven't used them, even after the drone attacks from Iran.

    Long-term, Israel can't allow Iran to have nukes, because they know
    that Iran will use them on Israeli cities and welcome retaliation as
    blessed martyrdom.

    *That sounds exactly right*.

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