It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
On 1 Jun 2024 at 17:42:41 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
On 01/06/2024 17:09, D.M. Procida wrote:
It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being >>> pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
It's still there. A bit hidden though.
Open Keyboard in System Preferences, then in the 'Input' section, click
the Edit button (I have just the British keyboard selected, so that's
next to the button on mine).
At the top of the next box is 'Show input menu in menu bar'. That'll get
you back the old keyboard viewer item in your menu bar.
It does - but what I want is a keyboard viewer that shows an on-screen representation of the actual keyboard, and what keys are being pressed on it, and it doesn't seem to do that any more
On 01/06/2024 17:09, D.M. Procida wrote:
It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being
pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
It's still there. A bit hidden though.
Open Keyboard in System Preferences, then in the 'Input' section, click
the Edit button (I have just the British keyboard selected, so that's
next to the button on mine).
At the top of the next box is 'Show input menu in menu bar'. That'll get
you back the old keyboard viewer item in your menu bar.
On 01/06/2024 18:28, D.M. Procida wrote:
On 1 Jun 2024 at 17:42:41 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
On 01/06/2024 17:09, D.M. Procida wrote:
It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being >>>> pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
It's still there. A bit hidden though.
Open Keyboard in System Preferences, then in the 'Input' section, click
the Edit button (I have just the British keyboard selected, so that's
next to the button on mine).
At the top of the next box is 'Show input menu in menu bar'. That'll get >>> you back the old keyboard viewer item in your menu bar.
It does - but what I want is a keyboard viewer that shows an on-screen
representation of the actual keyboard, and what keys are being pressed on it,
and it doesn't seem to do that any more (it shows a rather iPad-ish
representation, that includes predictive text input).
Does it here, Mac Mini
On 1 Jun 2024 at 17:42:41 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
On 01/06/2024 17:09, D.M. Procida wrote:
It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being >>> pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
It's still there. A bit hidden though.
Open Keyboard in System Preferences, then in the 'Input' section, click
the Edit button (I have just the British keyboard selected, so that's
next to the button on mine).
At the top of the next box is 'Show input menu in menu bar'. That'll get
you back the old keyboard viewer item in your menu bar.
It does - but what I want is a keyboard viewer that shows an on-screen representation of the actual keyboard, and what keys are being pressed on it, and it doesn't seem to do that any more (it shows a rather iPad-ish representation, that includes predictive text input).
Daniele
On 1 Jun 2024 at 18:46:48 BST, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 01/06/2024 18:28, D.M. Procida wrote:
On 1 Jun 2024 at 17:42:41 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote: >>>
On 01/06/2024 17:09, D.M. Procida wrote:
It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being >>>>> pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
It's still there. A bit hidden though.
Open Keyboard in System Preferences, then in the 'Input' section, click >>>> the Edit button (I have just the British keyboard selected, so that's
next to the button on mine).
At the top of the next box is 'Show input menu in menu bar'. That'll get >>>> you back the old keyboard viewer item in your menu bar.
It does - but what I want is a keyboard viewer that shows an on-screen
representation of the actual keyboard, and what keys are being pressed on it,
and it doesn't seem to do that any more (it shows a rather iPad-ish
representation, that includes predictive text input).
Does it here, Mac Mini
I'm on Sonoma 14.5 - looks like https://capture.dropbox.com/YhfQOQHa3FHliax8, and nothing to show what's being pressed (whereas it used to on older systems).
On 01/06/2024 19:05, D.M. Procida wrote:
On 1 Jun 2024 at 18:46:48 BST, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
On 01/06/2024 18:28, D.M. Procida wrote:
On 1 Jun 2024 at 17:42:41 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>
On 01/06/2024 17:09, D.M. Procida wrote:
It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being
pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
It's still there. A bit hidden though.
Open Keyboard in System Preferences, then in the 'Input' section, click >>>>> the Edit button (I have just the British keyboard selected, so that's >>>>> next to the button on mine).
At the top of the next box is 'Show input menu in menu bar'. That'll get >>>>> you back the old keyboard viewer item in your menu bar.
It does - but what I want is a keyboard viewer that shows an on-screen >>>> representation of the actual keyboard, and what keys are being pressed on it,
and it doesn't seem to do that any more (it shows a rather iPad-ish
representation, that includes predictive text input).
Does it here, Mac Mini
I'm on Sonoma 14.5 - looks like https://capture.dropbox.com/YhfQOQHa3FHliax8,
and nothing to show what's being pressed (whereas it used to on older
systems).
Yes, that's the keyboard I see when I open it up. I don't get that row
of words though, just a 'Suggestions' box.
If I hit keys, or combos of keys, the appropriate keypresses light up,
and that's all it does there for me. Except if I have a text entry open somewhere, such as this newsgroup page, it enters the text I type here,
and lights up the button on the Keyboard Viewer.
This is with a MacBook Pro, Sonoma 14.5, and it represents the physical keyboard quite closely.
On 1 Jun 2024 at 18:46:48 BST, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 01/06/2024 18:28, D.M. Procida wrote:
On 1 Jun 2024 at 17:42:41 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote: >>>
On 01/06/2024 17:09, D.M. Procida wrote:
It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being >>>>> pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
It's still there. A bit hidden though.
Open Keyboard in System Preferences, then in the 'Input' section, click >>>> the Edit button (I have just the British keyboard selected, so that's
next to the button on mine).
At the top of the next box is 'Show input menu in menu bar'. That'll get >>>> you back the old keyboard viewer item in your menu bar.
It does - but what I want is a keyboard viewer that shows an on-screen
representation of the actual keyboard, and what keys are being pressed on it,
and it doesn't seem to do that any more (it shows a rather iPad-ish
representation, that includes predictive text input).
Does it here, Mac Mini
I'm on Sonoma 14.5 - looks like https://capture.dropbox.com/YhfQOQHa3FHliax8, and nothing to show what's being pressed (whereas it used to on older systems).
On 01/06/2024 19:05, D.M. Procida wrote:
On 1 Jun 2024 at 18:46:48 BST, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
On 01/06/2024 18:28, D.M. Procida wrote:
On 1 Jun 2024 at 17:42:41 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>
On 01/06/2024 17:09, D.M. Procida wrote:
It used to be that the Keyboard Viewer would show you hat keys were being
pressed - handy when you were testing a keyboard.
Is there something that will do the same useful job?
It's still there. A bit hidden though.
Open Keyboard in System Preferences, then in the 'Input' section, click >>>>> the Edit button (I have just the British keyboard selected, so that's >>>>> next to the button on mine).
At the top of the next box is 'Show input menu in menu bar'. That'll get >>>>> you back the old keyboard viewer item in your menu bar.
It does - but what I want is a keyboard viewer that shows an on-screen >>>> representation of the actual keyboard, and what keys are being pressed on it,
and it doesn't seem to do that any more (it shows a rather iPad-ish
representation, that includes predictive text input).
Does it here, Mac Mini
I'm on Sonoma 14.5 - looks like https://capture.dropbox.com/YhfQOQHa3FHliax8,
and nothing to show what's being pressed (whereas it used to on older
systems).
Yes, that's the keyboard I see when I open it up. I don't get that row
of words though, just a 'Suggestions' box.
If I hit keys, or combos of keys, the appropriate keypresses light up,
and that's all it does there for me. Except if I have a text entry open somewhere, such as this newsgroup page, it enters the text I type here,
and lights up the button on the Keyboard Viewer.
On 1 Jun 2024 at 20:35:22 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
If I hit keys, or combos of keys, the appropriate keypresses light up,
and that's all it does there for me. Except if I have a text entry open
somewhere, such as this newsgroup page, it enters the text I type here,
and lights up the button on the Keyboard Viewer.
This is with a MacBook Pro, Sonoma 14.5, and it represents the physical
keyboard quite closely.
Also 14.5 here, but it barely resembles my actual keyboard. I have a wired Apple extended keyboard, whereas the keyboard shown on the screen looks more like that on my Macbook Air. It does "light up", though. Why did they change it? On Catalina etc the keyboard shown was like my actual one.
On 1 Jun 2024 at 20:35:22 BST, "Andy H" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
If I hit keys, or combos of keys, the appropriate keypresses light up,
and that's all it does there for me. Except if I have a text entry open
somewhere, such as this newsgroup page, it enters the text I type here,
and lights up the button on the Keyboard Viewer.
Shit, I happened to try it again - and it does light up (actually, a not very noticeable red outline instead of a grey one, around each letter - https://capture.dropbox.com/PUgqf5PKUXZX3dtT).
I was literally peering at it earlier, watching for it, and didn't see it.
I must be going blind.
On 01/06/2024 19:05, D.M. Procida wrote:
Does it here, Mac Mini
I'm on Sonoma 14.5 - looks like
https://capture.dropbox.com/YhfQOQHa3FHliax8,
and nothing to show what's being pressed (whereas it used to on older
systems).
Some am I, but I'm using light mode, not dark. I wonder of the latter is masking the display somehow?
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