I have a 128GB USB flash drive, that I want to copy some of my files from
Music onto (I use it in a a Volumio player).

The most convenient thing would be to have a playlist in Music for the files I want on the flash drive, and have it synchronise the contents with that, much as I do with my iPhone.

I don't know of a good way to do that though. (Funnily enough, there is still
a Burn Playlist to Disc option, I don't suppose that gets used much nowadays.)

Or perhaps I could do it using ChronoSync, though I think it would be more convenient to do it via Music.

Suggestions?

Daniele

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Am 22.06.24 um 20:18 schrieb D.M. Procida:

I have a 128GB USB flash drive, that I want to copy some of my files from Music onto (I use it in a a Volumio player).

The most convenient thing would be to have a playlist in Music for the files I
want on the flash drive, and have it synchronise the contents with that, much as I do with my iPhone.

I don't know of a good way to do that though. (Funnily enough, there is still a Burn Playlist to Disc option, I don't suppose that gets used much nowadays.)

Or perhaps I could do it using ChronoSync, though I think it would be more convenient to do it via Music.

Suggestions?

You won't like the answer but: Apple has other ways to play music in
mind. USB is so far not the way to do it.

This should fullfill your needs:
Open Music-App - Activate all songs you want to export - Ablage (German interface) - Mediathek - Export

Collect them on your Mac in a folder and copy them to the USB-drive.

Daniele

Jörg

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On 22 Jun 2024 18:18:05 GMT, D.M. Procida
<daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

I have a 128GB USB flash drive, that I want to copy some of my files from >Music onto (I use it in a a Volumio player).

The most convenient thing would be to have a playlist in Music for the files I >want on the flash drive, and have it synchronise the contents with that, much >as I do with my iPhone.

I don't know of a good way to do that though. (Funnily enough, there is still >a Burn Playlist to Disc option, I don't suppose that gets used much nowadays.)

Can you "Burn to disc" to a USB drive instead of an optical? From
what I remember, Burn creates a folder full of stuff that can be
copied over to the USB with a single click. Or a drag.

Or perhaps I could do it using ChronoSync, though I think it would be more >convenient to do it via Music.

Is "Finder" a possibility?

Suggestions?

"Finder"?

The Mac knows where the music is, it knows where the USB is, open two
"Finder" windows and copy from one to the other?

Or am I missing something obvious again?

J.

Daniele

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On 23 Jun 2024 at 12:06:53 BST, "John" <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

On 22 Jun 2024 18:18:05 GMT, D.M. Procida <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

I have a 128GB USB flash drive, that I want to copy some of my files from
Music onto (I use it in a a Volumio player).

The most convenient thing would be to have a playlist in Music for the files I
want on the flash drive, and have it synchronise the contents with that, much
as I do with my iPhone.

I don't know of a good way to do that though. (Funnily enough, there is still
a Burn Playlist to Disc option, I don't suppose that gets used much nowadays.)

Can you "Burn to disc" to a USB drive instead of an optical? From
what I remember, Burn creates a folder full of stuff that can be
copied over to the USB with a single click. Or a drag.

No, it really does want to create an audio (or other) disk.

Suggestions?

"Finder"?

The Mac knows where the music is, it knows where the USB is, open two "Finder" windows and copy from one to the other?

Or am I missing something obvious again?

I only want to copy some of the files, and there are several thousand of them to choose from, each time. It's not manageable in the Finder.

Daniele

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On Jun 23, 2024 at 1:49:45 PM EDT, "D.M. Procida" <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

I only want to copy some of the files, and there are several thousand of them to choose from, each time. It's not manageable in the Finder.

How is moving/copying files "not manageable in the Finder"? That's what
Finder is for. Sort the files by name and scroll until you find the files you want.

If you have several thousand files in a single folder it will take some time.
But it is certainly manageable. How is creating a playlist any faster? You still have to find the files to add them to the list.

You would have been done by now if you started yesterday, instead of asking
how to do it.

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Tyrone wrote:

On Jun 23, 2024 at 1:49:45 PM EDT, "D.M. Procida" <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

I only want to copy some of the files, and there are several thousand of them
to choose from, each time. It's not manageable in the Finder.

How is moving/copying files "not manageable in the Finder"? That's what Finder is for. Sort the files by name and scroll until you find the files you want.

If you have several thousand files in a single folder it will take some time.
But it is certainly manageable. How is creating a playlist any faster? You still have to find the files to add them to the list.

You would have been done by now if you started yesterday, instead of asking how to do it.

The key issue is "each time".


You create a playlist once - and yes, it might take time. You might
edit it - add a few, take away a few items - does not take long.

It's one click to invoke it.

What is so wrong about wanting to use the playlist to copy the files?


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Graham J

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On 25/06/2024 07:59, Graham J wrote:

Tyrone wrote:

On Jun 23, 2024 at 1:49:45 PM EDT, "D.M. Procida"
<daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

I only want to copy some of the files, and there are several thousand
of them
to choose from, each time. It's not manageable in the Finder.

How is moving/copying files "not manageable in the Finder"?  That's what
Finder is for. Sort the files by name and scroll until you find the
files you
want.

If you have several thousand files in a single folder it will take
some time.
  But it is certainly manageable. How is creating a playlist any
faster? You
still have to find the files to add them to the list.

You would have been done by now if you started yesterday, instead of
asking
how to do it.

The key issue is "each time".

You create a playlist once - and yes, it might take time.  You might
edit it - add a few, take away a few items - does not take long.

It's one click to invoke it.

What is so wrong about wanting to use the playlist to copy the files?

Open playlist, select all, drag to USB drive. Done.
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On 25. Jun 2024 at 08:59:16 CEST, "Graham J" <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

You create a playlist once - and yes, it might take time. You might
edit it - add a few, take away a few items - does not take long.

It's one click to invoke it.

What is so wrong about wanting to use the playlist to copy the files?

It´s quite easy:

Open your playlist in the Musik App, select all the files in the playlist,
drag them to your USB-stick (or whereever you want).

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On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 08:40:42 +0100, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I only want to copy some of the files,

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On Jun 25, 2024 at 2:59:16 AM EDT, "Graham J" <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

Tyrone wrote:

On Jun 23, 2024 at 1:49:45 PM EDT, "D.M. Procida"
<daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

I only want to copy some of the files, and there are several thousand of them
to choose from, each time. It's not manageable in the Finder.

How is moving/copying files "not manageable in the Finder"? That's what
Finder is for. Sort the files by name and scroll until you find the files you
want.

If you have several thousand files in a single folder it will take some time.
But it is certainly manageable. How is creating a playlist any faster? You >> still have to find the files to add them to the list.

You would have been done by now if you started yesterday, instead of asking >> how to do it.

The key issue is "each time".

What is meant by "each time"? Each time what? If he wants to copy the same files to multiple USB sticks then create a temp folder, copy the files ONCE to that folder then copy them to whatever USB sticks from the temp folder.

This is not rocket science, folks.

You create a playlist once - and yes, it might take time. You might
edit it - add a few, take away a few items - does not take long.

It's one click to invoke it.

What is so wrong about wanting to use the playlist to copy the files?

Nothing at all. But the same things can be done in Finder. The "playlist" is the temp folder. In both cases you find/choose/copy them once to the playlist/temp folder, then copy them all at once to the final destination(s).

Again, it is easily manageable in the Finder.

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On 25/06/2024 19:20, John wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:33:20 +0100, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 08:40:42 +0100, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I only want to copy some of the files,

Oh.

Sorry.

That was never meant to post. :)

J.

No worries :-)
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On 25 Jun 2024 at 10:52:53 BST, "Bernd Froehlich" <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:

On 25. Jun 2024 at 08:59:16 CEST, "Graham J" <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

You create a playlist once - and yes, it might take time. You might
edit it - add a few, take away a few items - does not take long.

It's one click to invoke it.

What is so wrong about wanting to use the playlist to copy the files?

It´s quite easy:

Open your playlist in the Musik App, select all the files in the playlist, drag them to your USB-stick (or whereever you want).

You had me all excited, but unfortunately that seems to copy only a flat list of files, whereas I want to copy the files in their folder trees.

Daniele

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On 25 Jun 2024 at 00:33:31 BST, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:

On Jun 23, 2024 at 1:49:45 PM EDT, "D.M. Procida" <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

I only want to copy some of the files, and there are several thousand of them
to choose from, each time. It's not manageable in the Finder.

How is moving/copying files "not manageable in the Finder"? That's what Finder is for. Sort the files by name and scroll until you find the files you want.

If you have several thousand files in a single folder it will take some time.
But it is certainly manageable. How is creating a playlist any faster? You still have to find the files to add them to the list.

You would have been done by now if you started yesterday, instead of asking how to do it.

Ha ha, imagine a tree of several thousand files, and you want to pull out different items from different parts of the tree - a few thousand of them. And then 10 months later, the source tree has changed somewhat, but you want to update the destination with the changes. The Finder's not going to be your friend.

Daniele

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On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:33:20 +0100, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 08:40:42 +0100, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I only want to copy some of the files,

Oh.

Sorry.

That was never meant to post. :)

J.

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On 25/06/2024 19:33, D.M. Procida wrote:

On 25 Jun 2024 at 10:52:53 BST, "Bernd Froehlich" <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:

On 25. Jun 2024 at 08:59:16 CEST, "Graham J" <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >>

You create a playlist once - and yes, it might take time. You might
edit it - add a few, take away a few items - does not take long.

It's one click to invoke it.

What is so wrong about wanting to use the playlist to copy the files?

It´s quite easy:

Open your playlist in the Musik App, select all the files in the playlist, >> drag them to your USB-stick (or whereever you want).

You had me all excited, but unfortunately that seems to copy only a flat list of files, whereas I want to copy the files in their folder trees.

Daniele

Try the following AppleScript:

-- start
use AppleScript version "2.4" -- Yosemite (10.10) or later
use scripting additions

set playlistName to "MyPlaylist"
set srcPathToStrip to "/Users/bruce/Music/Music/Media.localized/Music"
set dstPathtoAdd to "/Volumes/FlashDrive"
set filesList to "/Users/bruce/Desktop/music_to_copy.txt"

tell application "Music"
set thePlaylist to user playlist playlistName
set thePlaylistTracks to file tracks of thePlaylist
repeat with aTrack in thePlaylistTracks
set aliasPath to location of aTrack
set posixPath to POSIX path of aliasPath
do shell script "echo \\'" & posixPath & "\\' >> " & filesList
end repeat
end tell
-- end

Change the values of the variables at the beginning to values
appropriate to you.

Then run it and it should (assuming your thousands of tracks don't crash
it!) create a text file on the desktop listing the full source path of
each track that is in the playlist.

You can then use the rsync command to do the copy onto the flash card
using the syntax:

$ rsync -v --include-from=./music_to_copy.txt / /Volumes/flash_card_name

Note the / (i.e. root directory) after music_to_copy.txt - this is
because the filenames in the music_to_copy are treated as relative to
this directory. And since they are full paths they relative to root.

I don't use Music much so only tested with a 2 track play list. rsync
bit not tested but should be straightforward as there is a --dry-run
option that tells you what it would do without actually doing it.

HTH
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Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

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Slight tweak (tracks with brackets in their titles didn't copy):

-- start Applescript
use AppleScript version "2.4" -- Yosemite (10.10) or later
use scripting additions

set playlistName to "MyPlaylist"
set filesList to "/Users/bruce/Desktop/music_to_copy.txt"

tell application "Music"
set thePlaylist to user playlist playlistName
set thePlaylistTracks to file tracks of thePlaylist
do shell script "cat /dev/null > " & filesList
repeat with aTrack in thePlaylistTracks
set aliasPath to location of aTrack
set posixPath to POSIX path of aliasPath
do shell script "echo " & quoted form of posixPath & " >> " & filesList
end repeat
end tell

-- After running, sync using the command:
-- $ rsync -v --files-from=./music_to_copy.txt / /Volumes/flash_card_name

-- stop AppleScript

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

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On 29 Jun 2024 at 15:41:12 BST, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:

Slight tweak (tracks with brackets in their titles didn't copy):

-- start Applescript
use AppleScript version "2.4" -- Yosemite (10.10) or later
use scripting additions

set playlistName to "MyPlaylist"
set filesList to "/Users/bruce/Desktop/music_to_copy.txt"

tell application "Music"
set thePlaylist to user playlist playlistName
set thePlaylistTracks to file tracks of thePlaylist
do shell script "cat /dev/null > " & filesList
repeat with aTrack in thePlaylistTracks
set aliasPath to location of aTrack
set posixPath to POSIX path of aliasPath
do shell script "echo " & quoted form of posixPath & " >> " & filesList
end repeat
end tell

-- After running, sync using the command:
-- $ rsync -v --files-from=./music_to_copy.txt / /Volumes/flash_card_name

-- stop AppleScript

Thanks for taking all the trouble over this. Something is not quite right though.

It crashes after 110 or so tracks with an: error "Can’t get POSIX path of missing value." number -1728 from POSIX path of missing value.

More weirdly, although playlistName needs to be an actual playlist, I can't work out where it's getting the tracks from - not the named playlist, that's clear enough.

Daniele

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On 29/06/2024 22:41, D.M. Procida wrote:

On 29 Jun 2024 at 15:41:12 BST, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:

Thanks for taking all the trouble over this. Something is not quite right though.

It crashes after 110 or so tracks with an: error "Can’t get POSIX path of missing value." number -1728 from POSIX path of missing value.

More weirdly, although playlistName needs to be an actual playlist, I can't work out where it's getting the tracks from - not the named playlist, that's clear enough.

Error -1728 is a file not found error which implies that the playlist
contains a track which has since been moved, deleted or renamed.

I've no idea why the files listed don't appear to be from the playlist selected. I've changed the version below to include the name of the
track in the music_to_copy file on the line above each filename which
might help you decipher what's happening.

Be careful of the single quotes in the echo statements, especially where
the wrap has chopped the lines.


-- start
use AppleScript version "2.4" -- Yosemite (10.10) or later
use scripting additions

set playlistName to "MyPlaylist"
set filesList to "/Users/bruce/Desktop/music_to_copy.txt"

tell application "Music"
set thePlaylist to user playlist playlistName
set thePlaylistTracks to file tracks of thePlaylist
do shell script "echo '# Playlist: " & (name of thePlaylist) & "' > " & filesList
repeat with aTrack in thePlaylistTracks
try
set aliasPath to location of aTrack
set posixPath to POSIX path of aliasPath
do shell script "echo '# " & (name of aTrack) & "' >> " & filesList
do shell script "echo " & quoted form of posixPath & " >> " & filesList
on error errMsg number errNum
do shell script "echo # error: " & errMsg & " >> " & filesList
end try
end repeat
end tell
-- stop

Lastly I assume the tracks you are trying to sync are CDs/files that
you've ripped yourself? If they are streamed then I'm not sure what
AppleScript makes of them as I don't have any myself to test with.

Regards,
--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

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