Been having a few issues with the Private Relay, being unable to access a couple of sites. But now it's solidly misbehaving so I've paused it for a day in Settings. Seems I'm not alone:
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/25/icloud-private-relay-experiencing-outage/
Been having a few issues with the Private Relay, being unable to access a couple of sites. But now it's solidly misbehaving so I've paused it for a day in Settings. Seems I'm not alone:
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/25/icloud-private-relay-experiencing-outage/
Been having a few issues with the Private Relay, being unable to access a couple of sites. But now it's solidly misbehaving so I've paused it for a day in Settings. Seems I'm not alone:
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/25/icloud-private-relay-experiencing-outage/
On Jul 25, 2024 at 22:16:08 EDT, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
Been having a few issues with the Private Relay, being unable to access a
couple of sites. But now it's solidly misbehaving so I've paused it for a day
in Settings. Seems I'm not alone:
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/25/icloud-private-relay-experiencing-outage/
Is private relay something you normally just leave on all the time? Do you find it useful?
Am 26.07.24 um 04:16 schrieb RJH:
Been having a few issues with the Private Relay, being unable to access a
couple of sites. But now it's solidly misbehaving so I've paused it for a day
in Settings. Seems I'm not alone:
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/25/icloud-private-relay-experiencing-outage/
Was down yesterday evening CEST. Got a short message on my devices.
After an hour or two things were up and running again.
I experienced short disruptions in the past. Not more than twice a year.
I appreciate that Apple informs users when it happens.
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system.
Jörg
On 26 Jul 2024 at 06:41:58 BST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system.
Jörg
I had a notification this morning that it was back in operation.
Old John.
Am 28.07.24 um 10:04 schrieb John Hill:
On 26 Jul 2024 at 06:41:58 BST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system.
Jörg
I had a notification this morning that it was back in operation.
👍🏻
Old John.
Jörg
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system.
On 26 Jul 2024 at 07:41:58 CEST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system.
I agree in general.
However it has caused me problems with online card payment verification, so I now disable it before making any payments.
On 30.07.24 12:52, Martin-S wrote:
On 26 Jul 2024 at 07:41:58 CEST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system.
I agree in general.
However it has caused me problems with online card payment verification, so I
now disable it before making any payments.
That will be a built in security check by the bank or the credit card company. For payments I use Firefox so I was not aware of issues so far.
On 2024-07-31, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 30.07.24 12:52, Martin-S wrote:
On 26 Jul 2024 at 07:41:58 CEST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote: >>>
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system.
I agree in general.
However it has caused me problems with online card payment verification, so I
now disable it before making any payments.
That will be a built in security check by the bank or the credit card
company. For payments I use Firefox so I was not aware of issues so far.
Yes I use Firefox for payments. When I last used Safari for a payment, the currency changed from £ to $ mid-transaction. I assume it was something relating to Private Relay?
Am 31.07.24 um 13:08 schrieb Alan B:
On 2024-07-31, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 30.07.24 12:52, Martin-S wrote:
On 26 Jul 2024 at 07:41:58 CEST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net>
wrote:
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system. >>>>I agree in general.
However it has caused me problems with online card payment
verification, so I
now disable it before making any payments.
That will be a built in security check by the bank or the credit card
company. For payments I use Firefox so I was not aware of issues so far.
Yes I use Firefox for payments. When I last used Safari for a payment,
the
currency changed from £ to $ mid-transaction. I assume it was something
relating to Private Relay?
I'm not deep enough in the technical details to make a bullet proof statement.
On 31/07/2024 15:03:27, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 31.07.24 um 13:08 schrieb Alan B:
On 2024-07-31, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 30.07.24 12:52, Martin-S wrote:Yes I use Firefox for payments. When I last used Safari for a payment,
On 26 Jul 2024 at 07:41:58 CEST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net>
wrote:
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system. >>>>>I agree in general.
However it has caused me problems with online card payment
verification, so I
now disable it before making any payments.
That will be a built in security check by the bank or the credit card
company. For payments I use Firefox so I was not aware of issues so far. >>>
the
currency changed from £ to $ mid-transaction. I assume it was something >>> relating to Private Relay?
I'm not deep enough in the technical details to make a bullet proof
statement.
I've messed around with so many browsers over the years, and even
recently tried a bunch of the most 'popular' alternatives. But, I still
keep going back to Safari.
I find by sticking to the Apple Eco-system, everything seems to work
just fine.
On 31/07/2024 15:03:27, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 31.07.24 um 13:08 schrieb Alan B:
On 2024-07-31, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 30.07.24 12:52, Martin-S wrote:Yes I use Firefox for payments. When I last used Safari for a payment,
On 26 Jul 2024 at 07:41:58 CEST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net>
wrote:
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system. >>>>>I agree in general.
However it has caused me problems with online card payment
verification, so I
now disable it before making any payments.
That will be a built in security check by the bank or the credit card
company. For payments I use Firefox so I was not aware of issues so far. >>>
the
currency changed from £ to $ mid-transaction. I assume it was something >>> relating to Private Relay?
I'm not deep enough in the technical details to make a bullet proof
statement.
I've messed around with so many browsers over the years, and even
recently tried a bunch of the most 'popular' alternatives. But, I still
keep going back to Safari.
I find by sticking to the Apple Eco-system, everything seems to work
just fine.
I have PR turned on, and I use NextDNS for my blocking. Both seem to
work together (unlike other options, such as AdGuard, 1Blocker etc.)
I use Hush to control the cookie nags.
I rarely come across anything that doesn't work. If I do, it's usually
just a matter of whitelisting in Next DNS, but that's only for a handful
of sites so far.
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine in Firefox.
Am 31.07.24 um 23:35 schrieb Andy H:
I rarely come across anything that doesn't work. If I do, it's usually
just a matter of whitelisting in Next DNS, but that's only for a handful
of sites so far.
I think I have to do some research into NextDNS.
On 31 Jul 2024 at 22:35:15 BST, Andy H wrote:
On 31/07/2024 15:03:27, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 31.07.24 um 13:08 schrieb Alan B:
On 2024-07-31, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 30.07.24 12:52, Martin-S wrote:Yes I use Firefox for payments. When I last used Safari for a payment, >>>> the
On 26 Jul 2024 at 07:41:58 CEST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> >>>>>> wrote:
In general I'm happy with the QOS and the speed of this proxy system. >>>>>>I agree in general.
However it has caused me problems with online card payment
verification, so I
now disable it before making any payments.
That will be a built in security check by the bank or the credit card >>>>> company. For payments I use Firefox so I was not aware of issues so far. >>>>
currency changed from £ to $ mid-transaction. I assume it was something >>>> relating to Private Relay?
I'm not deep enough in the technical details to make a bullet proof
statement.
I've messed around with so many browsers over the years, and even
recently tried a bunch of the most 'popular' alternatives. But, I still
keep going back to Safari.
I find by sticking to the Apple Eco-system, everything seems to work
just fine.
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine in Firefox.
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain >> sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine
in Firefox.
Works fine here in Safari
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine in Firefox.
On 1 Aug 2024 at 08:23:03 BST, Graeme Wall wrote:
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain >>> sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine
in Firefox.
Works fine here in Safari
Ah - it was the Hush cookie blocker causing the freeze. Thanks for taking a look.
On 1 Aug 2024 at 06:55:09 CEST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain >> sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine
in Firefox.
I've run into this and I traced it down to Wipr blocking the cookie consent popups. Somehow that prevents any scrolling while other times it even prevents
the page content to load fully.
Once I turned of Wipr for the affected websites, all was fine.
On 1 Aug 2024 at 08:23:03 BST, Graeme Wall wrote:
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain >>> sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine
in Firefox.
Works fine here in Safari
Ah - it was the Hush cookie blocker causing the freeze. Thanks for taking a look.
Am 01.08.24 um 10:41 schrieb RJH:
On 1 Aug 2024 at 08:23:03 BST, Graeme Wall wrote:
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain >>>> sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine
in Firefox.
Works fine here in Safari
Ah - it was the Hush cookie blocker causing the freeze. Thanks for taking a >> look.
I doubt that. I use Hush as well and I have no problems with the Safari Browser and the posted link.
While on the subject, is there anyway to turn off javascript in Safari?
It used to be an option in the develop menu, but has now gone.
On 1 Aug 2024 at 10:37:13 AM BST, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
While on the subject, is there anyway to turn off javascript in Safari?
It used to be an option in the develop menu, but has now gone.
Still there in Safari 17.5: Settings -> Security.
On 01/08/2024 15:16, TimH wrote:
On 1 Aug 2024 at 10:37:13 AM BST, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
While on the subject, is there anyway to turn off javascript in Safari?
It used to be an option in the develop menu, but has now gone.
Still there in Safari 17.5: Settings -> Security.
Doh! So it is, thanks.
Am 01.08.24 um 17:49 schrieb Graeme Wall:
On 01/08/2024 15:16, TimH wrote:
On 1 Aug 2024 at 10:37:13 AM BST, "Graeme Wall"
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
While on the subject, is there anyway to turn off javascript in Safari? >>>> It used to be an option in the develop menu, but has now gone.
Still there in Safari 17.5: Settings -> Security.
Doh! So it is, thanks.
Do you like "Internet" without Javascript?
Am 01.08.24 um 07:47 schrieb Jörg Lorenz:
Am 31.07.24 um 23:35 schrieb Andy H:
I rarely come across anything that doesn't work. If I do, it's usually
just a matter of whitelisting in Next DNS, but that's only for a handful >>> of sites so far.
I think I have to do some research into NextDNS.
I did. The thing is that I have a very strict policy as far as DNS are concerned.
I use only DNS that are located in Europe. I do not use DNS from 5-eye-countries and I use only DNS over HTTPS or Proxy Systems like the
one from Apple. I do not use censored DNS.
NextDNS is conceptually capable of logging my queries and is not
certified to not log them. By definition it is censoring.
I clearly prefer to filter DNS results *on the machine*.
On 1 Aug 2024 at 08:23:03 BST, Graeme Wall wrote:
Much the same here, although Safari has recently started 'locking' certain >>> sites, disabling scrolling. For example:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/31/many-pensioners-cant-afford-to-lose-the-winter-fuel-allowance
I can only read the top 2 paragraphs - scrolling down is disabled. Works fine
in Firefox.
Works fine here in Safari
Ah - it was the Hush cookie blocker causing the freeze. Thanks for taking a look.
On 01/08/2024 07:39:19, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 01.08.24 um 07:47 schrieb Jörg Lorenz:
Am 31.07.24 um 23:35 schrieb Andy H:
I rarely come across anything that doesn't work. If I do, it's usually >>>> just a matter of whitelisting in Next DNS, but that's only for a handful >>>> of sites so far.
I think I have to do some research into NextDNS.
I did. The thing is that I have a very strict policy as far as DNS are
concerned.
I use only DNS that are located in Europe. I do not use DNS from
5-eye-countries and I use only DNS over HTTPS or Proxy Systems like the
one from Apple. I do not use censored DNS.
NextDNS is conceptually capable of logging my queries and is not
certified to not log them. By definition it is censoring.
I clearly prefer to filter DNS results *on the machine*.
From what I can find, most online DNS services are similar in that
respect, but NextDNS does seem to achieve a fairly high reputation, and nothing crops up that causes concern.
It does offer a lot of control over the filter lists you can choose, and
they seem to be standard ones generally used across the Internet,
They also offer an option to save your logs to different locations,
including one in Switzerland, which is the one I have chosen.
I had considered the option of local DNS filtering, but for me, and my household, the cost, effort, and added hardware to do it, just wasn't justified. I also use the filtering when mobile, which becomes
considerably more difficult with local filtering.
I can use NextDNS wherever I am, and on whatever device I'm using (as
long as I install the profile or app onto them).
To be honest, the vague possibility of a bit of logging is less of a
concern than the filtering of malicious online stuff, and annoyances in general.
Of course, we could just do nothing, and trust in Apple. Perhaps the
built in security, blocking options, and PR is is enough anyway.
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