On 25.09.24 15:03, Alan B wrote:
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called
Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
Microsoft Defender does not exist for Macs in the App Store. Are you
sure you did not install malware?
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> writes:
On 25.09.24 15:03, Alan B wrote:
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called
Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
Microsoft Defender does not exist for Macs in the App Store. Are you
sure you did not install malware?
It appears to be a recent addition to Microsoft 365.
<https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/1e3sy4v/anyone_installed_microsoft_defender_on_your_mac/>
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> writes:
On 25.09.24 15:03, Alan B wrote:
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called
Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
Microsoft Defender does not exist for Macs in the App Store. Are you
sure you did not install malware?
It appears to be a recent addition to Microsoft 365.
<https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/1e3sy4v/anyone_installed_microsoft_defender_on_your_mac/>
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
It's OK. I'm an atheist catholic.- deKay and Gareth Halfacree, ugvm
So you just feel guilty for /no readily apparent reason/.
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called
Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
Which version? I don't see it in updated 2019 in macOS Ventura v13.7.
On 25 Sep 2024 at 14:03:23 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called
Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
Watch out for friggin' Teams installing itself too. And then
reinstalling itself when you delete it.
On 2024-09-25, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
I updated M$Office on my older Mac today, only to find an app called
Microsoft Defender had been installed. Of course I immediately
dispatched it to the Wastebasket! In fairness I guess M$ are thinking
of corporate users who are forced to install AV software as part of
their business's IT policy. It may even save the business a bob or two
by not having to buy in 3rd party AV products. But even so .....
Which version? I don't see it in updated 2019 in macOS Ventura v13.7.
The apps (Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook, OneNote) are at version 16.89. They
are all part of the subscription based product now called Microsoft 365. Look it
up on Microsoft's site or Wikipedia.
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
[...]
Watch out for friggin' Teams installing itself too. And then
reinstalling itself when you delete it.
Yes the damn thing is there, all 1GB of it but I won't use it anyway!
Defender hasn't re-appeared though but it was actually an installer which
has to be triggered manually.
I wouldn't use Teams by choice but that's what various branches
of the NHS that I must deal with use, so I'm stuck with it.
Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
[...]
Watch out for friggin' Teams installing itself too. And then
reinstalling itself when you delete it.
Yes the damn thing is there, all 1GB of it but I won't use it anyway!
Defender hasn't re-appeared though but it was actually an installer which >>> has to be triggered manually.
I wouldn't use Teams by choice but that's what various branches
of the NHS that I must deal with use, so I'm stuck with it.
I like Teams. I use it pretty much all day every day on my mac and ipad. I can't see why the hate. Maybe I'm suffering from Stockholm syndrome...?
Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
[...]
Watch out for friggin' Teams installing itself too. And then
reinstalling itself when you delete it.
Yes the damn thing is there, all 1GB of it but I won't use it anyway!
Defender hasn't re-appeared though but it was actually an installer which >>> has to be triggered manually.
I wouldn't use Teams by choice but that's what various branches
of the NHS that I must deal with use, so I'm stuck with it.
I like Teams. I use it pretty much all day every day on my mac and ipad. I can't see why the hate. Maybe I'm suffering from Stockholm syndrome...?
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
[...]
Watch out for friggin' Teams installing itself too. And then
reinstalling itself when you delete it.
Yes the damn thing is there, all 1GB of it but I won't use it anyway!
Defender hasn't re-appeared though but it was actually an installer which >>>> has to be triggered manually.
I wouldn't use Teams by choice but that's what various branches
of the NHS that I must deal with use, so I'm stuck with it.
I like Teams. I use it pretty much all day every day on my mac and ipad. I >> can't see why the hate. Maybe I'm suffering from Stockholm syndrome...?
Fortunately I do not need to use any collaborative app in my day to day
life :) The MS365 and its predecessor sub. allows me and family members to share its more useful features such as Word, PowerPoint and Excel. If it
was my choice when we wanted to use an “office” suite then I’d probably go
for LibreOffice, FreeOffice or Apple’s “iWork” apps. Sadly NeoOffice has
ceased development but is still available.
Yes I know that but the vote was in favour of Micosoft :(
On 26.09.24 08:53, Alan B wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
[...]
Watch out for friggin' Teams installing itself too. And then
reinstalling itself when you delete it.
Yes the damn thing is there, all 1GB of it but I won't use it anyway! >>>>> Defender hasn't re-appeared though but it was actually an installer which >>>>> has to be triggered manually.
I wouldn't use Teams by choice but that's what various branches
of the NHS that I must deal with use, so I'm stuck with it.
I like Teams. I use it pretty much all day every day on my mac and ipad. I >>> can't see why the hate. Maybe I'm suffering from Stockholm syndrome...?
Fortunately I do not need to use any collaborative app in my day to day
life :) The MS365 and its predecessor sub. allows me and family members to >> share its more useful features such as Word, PowerPoint and Excel. If it
was my choice when we wanted to use an “office” suite then I’d probably go
for LibreOffice, FreeOffice or Apple’s “iWork” apps. Sadly NeoOffice has
ceased development but is still available.
You can share and work on $MS$-Files by using Libre Office or native
Apple appications.
On 26.09.24 09:38, Alan B wrote:
On 2024-09-26, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 26.09.24 08:53, Alan B wrote:
Fortunately I do not need to use any collaborative app in my day to day >>>> life :) The MS365 and its predecessor sub. allows me and family members to >>>> share its more useful features such as Word, PowerPoint and Excel. If it >>>> was my choice when we wanted to use an “office” suite then I’d probably go
for LibreOffice, FreeOffice or Apple’s “iWork” apps. Sadly NeoOffice has
ceased development but is still available.
You can share and work on $MS$-Files by using Libre Office or native
Apple appications.
Yes I know that but the vote was in favour of Micosoft :(
What *you* use is *your decision*. You can't blame others for what you use.
On 2024-09-26, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 26.09.24 08:53, Alan B wrote:
Fortunately I do not need to use any collaborative app in my day to day
life :) The MS365 and its predecessor sub. allows me and family members to >>> share its more useful features such as Word, PowerPoint and Excel. If it >>> was my choice when we wanted to use an “office” suite then I’d probably go
for LibreOffice, FreeOffice or Apple’s “iWork” apps. Sadly NeoOffice has
ceased development but is still available.
You can share and work on $MS$-Files by using Libre Office or native
Apple appications.
Yes I know that but the vote was in favour of Micosoft :(
Have you actually done it? In theory it should work, in practice formatting and font issues are a nightmare in docx, pptx are awful and xlsx works just about.
Then there's the lack of online collaboration..
Are you sure you did not install malware?
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