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    From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 11:48:18 2024
    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on
    Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be
    the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.




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    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From TimS@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 12:56:07 2024
    On 28 Dec 2024 at 11:48:18 GMT, "Liz Tuddenham" <Liz Tuddenham> wrote:

    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be
    the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.

    Ask on uk.d-i-y

    --
    Tim

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Sat Dec 28 12:34:51 2024
    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 11:48:18 +0000, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be
    the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.

    I've always got on well with Pan and Forte Agent although the latter may
    no longer be supported. No doubt someone will suggest Thunderbird but Betterbird is, well, better!

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 13:13:59 2024
    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 13:07:49 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on
    Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would
    be the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.


    IMO Thunderbird, Sea Monkey, et al. are at best cumbersome for Usenet
    and at worst, inadequate. I recommend Microplanet Gravity as maintained
    by Steve Gibson at GRC; it's a real Newsreader.

    <https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm> (scroll down) <https://www.grc.com/files/GravitySetup.zip> (download link)

    I'll second that. I tried it out a few years back and found it more than adequate.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From eastender@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 15:49:48 2024
    liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) posted:

    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be
    the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.

    Colin Macleod's Newsgrouper is excellent - a browser interface and free to register with him for posting in text groups.

    https://newsgrouper.org.uk

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  • From Graeme Wall@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Sat Dec 28 16:25:30 2024
    On 28/12/2024 11:48, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be
    the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.





    Thunderbird?
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.

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  • From TimS@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 18:10:04 2024
    On 28 Dec 2024 at 16:25:30 GMT, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2024 11:48, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on
    Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be
    the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.

    Thunderbird?

    This has already been suggested, and various people have hinted that it might not be that good in the role. With which sentiment I would agree.

    --
    Tim

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  • From Graeme Wall@21:1/5 to TimS on Sat Dec 28 21:47:47 2024
    On 28/12/2024 18:10, TimS wrote:
    On 28 Dec 2024 at 16:25:30 GMT, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2024 11:48, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on
    Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be >>> the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.

    Thunderbird?

    This has already been suggested, and various people have hinted that it might not be that good in the role. With which sentiment I would agree.


    It's easy to get hold of and anyone needing assistance in setting it up
    is unlikely to be wanting the more esoteric functions of some of the
    more complicated newsreaders.

    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.

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  • From TimS@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 22:33:14 2024
    On 28 Dec 2024 at 21:47:47 GMT, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2024 18:10, TimS wrote:
    On 28 Dec 2024 at 16:25:30 GMT, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 28/12/2024 11:48, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on >>>> Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be >>>> the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.

    Thunderbird?

    This has already been suggested, and various people have hinted that it might
    not be that good in the role. With which sentiment I would agree.

    It's easy to get hold of and anyone needing assistance in setting it up
    is unlikely to be wanting the more esoteric functions of some of the
    more complicated newsreaders.

    IMO, it is TB which is the more complicated. But that was from a brief
    exposure some years ago; once was enough. Since then I've used simpler, more focussed products. YMMV.

    --
    Tim

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Chris on Sun Dec 29 08:48:18 2024
    On 29/12/2024 01:38, Chris wrote:
    TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
    On 28 Dec 2024 at 21:47:47 GMT, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 28/12/2024 18:10, TimS wrote:
    On 28 Dec 2024 at 16:25:30 GMT, "Graeme Wall" <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> >>>> wrote:

    On 28/12/2024 11:48, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on >>>>>> Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be >>>>>> the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.

    Thunderbird?

    This has already been suggested, and various people have hinted that it might
    not be that good in the role. With which sentiment I would agree.

    It's easy to get hold of and anyone needing assistance in setting it up
    is unlikely to be wanting the more esoteric functions of some of the
    more complicated newsreaders.

    IMO, it is TB which is the more complicated. But that was from a brief
    exposure some years ago; once was enough. Since then I've used simpler, more >> focussed products. YMMV.

    I've said this before, but I really don't get what is so wrong about TB.
    It's simple and familiar to those used to email who don't need much out of
    a newsreader.

    Thunderbird works just fine for both email and Usenet newsgroup reading/writing.

    There's even an active Thunderbird Usenet group for asking questions!

    alt.comp.software.thunderbird

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Sun Dec 29 09:33:22 2024
    On 2024-12-28, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be
    the best program for her to use?

    Nerdy suggestion: The short is no. I’m sure you know this, but you can install older versions of MacSOUP in an emulated Mac OS 9 environment on a
    PC running the Windows version of SheepShaver.

    <https://sheepshaver.cebix.net>

    However it hardly seems worth it given the many PC Usenet clients available!

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    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Mon Dec 30 16:43:23 2024
    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would be
    the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.




    An alternative is Newstap on iPad/iPhone it has a tree thread interface.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Dec 30 18:29:10 2024
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 13:07:49 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A friend of mine who uses a PC would like to join a gardening group on
    Usenet. I presume there isn't a PC version of MacSOUP, so what would
    be the best program for her to use?

    I'm happy to set her up on <news.individual.net>.


    IMO Thunderbird, Sea Monkey, et al. are at best cumbersome for Usenet
    and at worst, inadequate. I recommend Microplanet Gravity as maintained
    by Steve Gibson at GRC; it's a real Newsreader.

    <https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm> (scroll down) <https://www.grc.com/files/GravitySetup.zip> (download link)

    I'll second that. I tried it out a few years back and found it more than adequate.

    I'm a bit confused by their webpage, it looks as though there are only
    about 30 groups that their newsreader gives you access to and they
    'noderate' the discussions.

    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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