• Key sounds

    From John Hill@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 08:42:22 2025
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two that looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    Old John..
    --
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  • From David@21:1/5 to John Hill on Tue Feb 18 09:13:31 2025
    On 18/02/2025 08:42, John Hill wrote:
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two that looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    Hi John

    macOS doesn't have a built-in option specifically for producing a click
    sound when pressing keys.

    For a key click sound, you would likely need to use a third-party
    solution. One of the most popular tools to customize keyboard behavior
    on macOS is Karabiner-Elements, which allows for various tweaks,
    including sounds for key presses.

    **Karabiner-Elements** is a powerful and versatile keyboard
    customization tool for macOS. It allows you to remap keys, modify key
    behavior, and add additional functionality to your keyboard. It's
    commonly used for advanced users who want to fine-tune their keyboard
    settings, including adding key press sounds.

    ### Features of Karabiner-Elements:
    1. **Key Remapping**: You can remap any key to perform a different
    function or create custom shortcuts.
    2. **Key Modifiers**: Customize how modifier keys (like Shift, Command,
    Option) behave or even create complex combinations.
    3. **Advanced Configuration**: It supports complex conditions for key
    actions based on specific apps or other variables.
    4. **Multiple Profiles**: You can set up different configurations for
    various situations or applications and switch between them easily.
    5. **Key Repeat & Delay Customization**: Adjust the speed at which keys
    repeat when held down.
    6. **Sounds & Feedback**: Although Karabiner-Elements itself doesn't
    directly produce a typing click sound, it can be configured with
    additional scripts to make a sound when a key is pressed.

    ### Installing Karabiner-Elements:
    1. **Download**: Go to [Karabiner-Elements' official website](https://github.com/pqrs-org/Karabiner-Elements) and download
    the latest version.
    2. **Install**: Open the downloaded file and follow the on-screen
    instructions to install the application.
    3. **Allow Permissions**: Since Karabiner-Elements modifies system
    settings, you'll need to grant it some accessibility and security
    permissions in **System Settings > Security & Privacy**.

    ### Adding Key Press Sound:
    Karabiner-Elements allows users to add custom scripts and
    configurations. You can modify it to trigger a sound effect upon
    pressing keys by following a few steps:

    1. **Open Karabiner-Elements**: Launch the app after installation.
    2. **Go to the "Complex Modifications" Tab**: Karabiner includes a
    repository of pre-built modifications, and you can add custom rules to them.
    3. **Create a Custom Rule**: You'll need a script (e.g., an AppleScript
    or a sound-playing command) that plays a sound whenever a key is pressed.
    4. **Apply the Rule**: Once your script is set up, you can activate it
    and listen for a click sound when typing.

    ### Example: Using AppleScript for Key Press Sound
    To generate a sound on key press, you can add a simple AppleScript like
    this:
    ```applescript
    do shell script "osascript -e 'beep'"
    ```
    This will cause your system to produce the default macOS "beep" sound
    whenever a key is pressed, but you can substitute with any other sound
    if you wish.

    ### Final Thoughts:
    While **Karabiner-Elements** is an advanced tool that can provide
    substantial control over your keyboard, adding a key press sound is not
    part of the default features. It requires some customization via
    scripts. However, once set up, it offers powerful functionality that
    might suit your needs if you're willing to experiment with these
    advanced features.

    =

    This information obtained from ChatGPT - NOT my own work! ;-)

    It also asks .....

    Would you like detailed steps for adding a key press sound or any
    specific help setting this up?

    --
    Warm regards,
    David in Devon!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to John Hill on Tue Feb 18 16:02:56 2025
    On 18/02/2025 08:42, John Hill wrote:
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two that looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    <https://www.imore.com/best-mechanical-keyboards-mac> ;-)

    It is possible but convoluted and hidden (in Sequoia at least):

    1) Go to System Preferences -> Sound and in the Sound Effects section
    ensure that Play User Interface Sound Effects is selected.

    2) Then System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Keyboard and ensure that
    Slow Keys is selected.

    3) And now here's the hidden bit as I can't find the path for this: in
    the System Settings dialogue type "click" into the search field. One of
    the results should be "Use key click sounds"

    Click on this and in the dialogue box that pops up: turn on "Use
    keyclick sounds" and reduce the acceptance delay to very short. (The
    longer the setting the longer you have to hold a key down for it to
    register.)

    That's it.

    It's not perfect because it is designed for motor skills issues, rather
    than just hearing a click.

    Regards,
    --
    Bruce Horrocks
    Hampshire, England

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Feb 18 16:23:35 2025
    On 18/02/2025 16:02, Bruce wrote:
    On 18/02/2025 08:42, John Hill wrote:
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have
    searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two
    that
    looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    <https://www.imore.com/best-mechanical-keyboards-mac> ;-)

    It is possible but convoluted and hidden (in Sequoia at least):

    1) Go to System Preferences -> Sound and in the Sound Effects section
    ensure that Play User Interface Sound Effects is selected.

    2) Then System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Keyboard and ensure that
    Slow Keys is selected.

    3) And now here's the hidden bit as I can't find the path for this: in
    the System Settings dialogue type "click" into the search field. One of
    the results should be "Use key click sounds"

    Click on this and in the dialogue box that pops up: turn on "Use
    keyclick sounds" and reduce the acceptance delay to very short. (The
    longer the setting the longer you have to hold a key down for it to register.)

    That's it.

    It's not perfect because it is designed for motor skills issues, rather
    than just hearing a click.

    I've checked this - and *it works*! CONGRATULATIONS! 🥳

    I also informed ChatGPT and this was the response:-

    =

    Thanks for sharing that! It looks like Apple has indeed hidden this
    option under Accessibility > Keyboard with "Slow Keys" enabled. The key
    click sound is tied to an assistive feature rather than a general typing option.

    I appreciate the correction—this is useful for anyone who wants audible feedback while typing on macOS. I'll keep this in mind for future
    reference.

    *Did your Usenet friend find it helpful*?

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

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  • From John@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 23:02:33 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:02:56 +0000, Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com>
    wrote:

    On 18/02/2025 08:42, John Hill wrote:
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have
    searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two that >> looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    <https://www.imore.com/best-mechanical-keyboards-mac> ;-)

    It is possible but convoluted and hidden (in Sequoia at least):

    1) Go to System Preferences -> Sound and in the Sound Effects section
    ensure that Play User Interface Sound Effects is selected.

    2) Then System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Keyboard and ensure that
    Slow Keys is selected.

    3) And now here's the hidden bit as I can't find the path for this: in
    the System Settings dialogue type "click" into the search field. One of
    the results should be "Use key click sounds"

    Click on this and in the dialogue box that pops up: turn on "Use
    keyclick sounds" and reduce the acceptance delay to very short. (The
    longer the setting the longer you have to hold a key down for it to >register.)

    That's it.

    It's not perfect because it is designed for motor skills issues, rather
    than just hearing a click.

    Good work, thank you, but can't Mr. Hill simply buy a keyboard that
    clicks? My cheapo Windows KB which I use for my MiniMac does. It cost
    about ten USDollars or ten UKPounds. I bought it in a small computer bits-and-repair shop.

    It doesn't click repeatedly when I hold a key down, just on first
    impact.

    True, some of the keys are mapped differently from those on a real
    Maccy KB but that's easy to learn.

    J.


    Regards,

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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Feb 19 09:16:58 2025
    On 18 Feb 2025 at 16:02:56 GMT, "Bruce" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:

    On 18/02/2025 08:42, John Hill wrote:
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have
    searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two that >> looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    <https://www.imore.com/best-mechanical-keyboards-mac> ;-)

    It is possible but convoluted and hidden (in Sequoia at least):

    1) Go to System Preferences -> Sound and in the Sound Effects section
    ensure that Play User Interface Sound Effects is selected.

    2) Then System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Keyboard and ensure that
    Slow Keys is selected.

    3) And now here's the hidden bit as I can't find the path for this: in
    the System Settings dialogue type "click" into the search field. One of
    the results should be "Use key click sounds"

    Click on this and in the dialogue box that pops up: turn on "Use
    keyclick sounds" and reduce the acceptance delay to very short. (The
    longer the setting the longer you have to hold a key down for it to register.)

    That's it.

    It's not perfect because it is designed for motor skills issues, rather
    than just hearing a click.

    Regards,

    Thanks! indeed it does work. Much cleaner solution than inststalling extra software or spending money on keyboards I don't want.
    And I can turn it on and off by turning Slow Keys on or off.

    Old John
    --
    Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do,
    not what you want them to do.
    Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do,
    no matter what you tell them to do.

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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to John on Wed Feb 19 09:34:47 2025
    On 18 Feb 2025 at 23:02:33 GMT, "John" <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:02:56 +0000, Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com>
    wrote:

    On 18/02/2025 08:42, John Hill wrote:
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have
    searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two that >>> looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    <https://www.imore.com/best-mechanical-keyboards-mac> ;-)

    It is possible but convoluted and hidden (in Sequoia at least):

    1) Go to System Preferences -> Sound and in the Sound Effects section
    ensure that Play User Interface Sound Effects is selected.

    2) Then System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Keyboard and ensure that
    Slow Keys is selected.

    3) And now here's the hidden bit as I can't find the path for this: in
    the System Settings dialogue type "click" into the search field. One of
    the results should be "Use key click sounds"

    Click on this and in the dialogue box that pops up: turn on "Use
    keyclick sounds" and reduce the acceptance delay to very short. (The
    longer the setting the longer you have to hold a key down for it to
    register.)

    That's it.

    It's not perfect because it is designed for motor skills issues, rather
    than just hearing a click.

    Good work, thank you, but can't Mr. Hill simply buy a keyboard that
    clicks? My cheapo Windows KB which I use for my MiniMac does. It cost
    about ten USDollars or ten UKPounds. I bought it in a small computer bits-and-repair shop.

    It doesn't click repeatedly when I hold a key down, just on first
    impact.

    True, some of the keys are mapped differently from those on a real
    Maccy KB but that's easy to learn.



    The problem with that is that I would lose the ability to use TouchID to log
    in to my iMac. It doesn't always work, but it's so easy when it does.

    Old John.
    --
    Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do,
    not what you want them to do.
    Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do,
    no matter what you tell them to do.

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  • From John@21:1/5 to watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk on Wed Feb 19 11:09:55 2025
    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:34:47 -0000 (UTC), John Hill
    <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    On 18 Feb 2025 at 23:02:33 GMT, "John" <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:02:56 +0000, Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com>
    wrote:

    On 18/02/2025 08:42, John Hill wrote:
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have >>>> searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two that >>>> looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    <https://www.imore.com/best-mechanical-keyboards-mac> ;-)

    It is possible but convoluted and hidden (in Sequoia at least):

    1) Go to System Preferences -> Sound and in the Sound Effects section
    ensure that Play User Interface Sound Effects is selected.

    2) Then System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Keyboard and ensure that
    Slow Keys is selected.

    3) And now here's the hidden bit as I can't find the path for this: in
    the System Settings dialogue type "click" into the search field. One of
    the results should be "Use key click sounds"

    Click on this and in the dialogue box that pops up: turn on "Use
    keyclick sounds" and reduce the acceptance delay to very short. (The
    longer the setting the longer you have to hold a key down for it to
    register.)

    That's it.

    It's not perfect because it is designed for motor skills issues, rather
    than just hearing a click.

    Good work, thank you, but can't Mr. Hill simply buy a keyboard that
    clicks? My cheapo Windows KB which I use for my MiniMac does. It cost
    about ten USDollars or ten UKPounds. I bought it in a small computer
    bits-and-repair shop.

    It doesn't click repeatedly when I hold a key down, just on first
    impact.

    True, some of the keys are mapped differently from those on a real
    Maccy KB but that's easy to learn.



    The problem with that is that I would lose the ability to use TouchID to log >in to my iMac. It doesn't always work, but it's so easy when it does.


    You would only lose Touch ID were you to do as I vaguely suggested
    which was to buy a cheap keyboard. For a few extra pennies really good
    ones could be had.

    Of course, you say in another post that you don't particularly want
    hordes of extra KB's cluttering up the place. I fully understand this.
    I have lots of old ones from the days when every computer came with
    mousey, keyboard and monitor. No one wants them so they sit in boxes
    waiting for me to decide to bin them, which I don't as they are good
    tech and still work. Well, they *might* work were I to find a computer
    unit with the proper connectors. Those old KB's never imagined USB nor wireless, they all have strange things at the ends of their leads. :)

    I thought I'd offer the KB suggestion out of niceness in case you
    hadn't thought of that option. Obviously you have so I'll go away,
    now.

    J.


    Old John.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to John Hill on Thu Feb 20 12:01:09 2025
    On 19/02/2025 09:16, John Hill wrote:
    On 18 Feb 2025 at 16:02:56 GMT, "Bruce" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:

    On 18/02/2025 08:42, John Hill wrote:
    I would like to hear a click when I press a key on the keyboard. I have
    searched among the plethora of options in System Settings. One or two that >>> looked promising (mainly in acessibility) have been ineffective.

    Is there an option for this and if so where is it hiding?

    <https://www.imore.com/best-mechanical-keyboards-mac> ;-)

    It is possible but convoluted and hidden (in Sequoia at least):

    1) Go to System Preferences -> Sound and in the Sound Effects section
    ensure that Play User Interface Sound Effects is selected.

    2) Then System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Keyboard and ensure that
    Slow Keys is selected.

    3) And now here's the hidden bit as I can't find the path for this: in
    the System Settings dialogue type "click" into the search field. One of
    the results should be "Use key click sounds"

    Click on this and in the dialogue box that pops up: turn on "Use
    keyclick sounds" and reduce the acceptance delay to very short. (The
    longer the setting the longer you have to hold a key down for it to
    register.)

    That's it.

    It's not perfect because it is designed for motor skills issues, rather
    than just hearing a click.

    Regards,

    Thanks! indeed it does work. Much cleaner solution than inststalling extra software or spending money on keyboards I don't want.
    And I can turn it on and off by turning Slow Keys on or off.

    I apologise for misleading you, Old John.

    Did you also note the apology from ChatCPT?

    --
    David

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