I recently purchased a new bike and was disappointed that the bell
didn't work. Having sent a complaint to the manufacturer I subsequently discovered that everyone else could hear the ping of the bell, only I
could hear nothing. This prompted me to take an online hearing frequency test. At my age I should be able to hear up to 8,000Hz but after 3,500Hz
is silence.
I must admit, too, that I have to resort to subtitles on the TV more frequently. Actors nowadays do tend to mutter and mumble.
I know that some in this group are, like me, superannuated so I wonder
if any are using Apple's Airpod Pro 2 as a hearing aid and with what
success.
I recently purchased a new bike and was disappointed that the bell
didn't work. Having sent a complaint to the manufacturer I subsequently discovered that everyone else could hear the ping of the bell, only I
could hear nothing. This prompted me to take an online hearing frequency test. At my age I should be able to hear up to 8,000Hz but after 3,500Hz
is silence.
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK. There
were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that they would expedite the process but no date has been announced.
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:59:24 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK. There were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that they would expedite the process but no date has been announced.
According to Apple the Hearing Test feature and the Hearing Aid feature
is available in UK and Ireland. It's only the Hearing Protection feature
that is restricted to USA and Canada.
That means that many older people, not just you, won't be able to hear
it. Ask the suppliers to fit a proper bell before you are blamed for
running someone down.
On 26 Feb 2025 at 10:44:16 GMT, "Liz Tuddenham" <Liz Tuddenham> wrote:
That means that many older people, not just you, won't be able to hear
it. Ask the suppliers to fit a proper bell before you are blamed for running someone down.
Not to worry. Any friends, older than me, that I have asked can hear it clearly. And I have my voice. In any case I am a cautious and slow
arthritic cyclist.
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 10:44:16 GMT, "Liz Tuddenham" <Liz Tuddenham> wrote:
That means that many older people, not just you, won't be able to hear
it. Ask the suppliers to fit a proper bell before you are blamed for
running someone down.
Not to worry. Any friends, older than me, that I have asked can hear it
clearly. And I have my voice. In any case I am a cautious and slow
arthritic cyclist.
I've alwys wanted a bulb-horn that blows a 'raspberry' - it would be
"Audible Warning of Reproach".
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do,
no matter what you tell them to do.
On 26 Feb 2025 at 10:44:16 GMT, "Liz Tuddenham" <Liz Tuddenham> wrote:
That means that many older people, not just you, won't be able to hear
it. Ask the suppliers to fit a proper bell before you are blamed for
running someone down.
Not to worry. Any friends, older than me, that I have asked can hear it clearly. And I have my voice. In any case I am a cautious and slow
arthritic cyclist.
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:59:24 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK. There >>> were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that they would
expedite the process but no date has been announced.
According to Apple the Hearing Test feature and the Hearing Aid feature
is available in UK and Ireland. It's only the Hearing Protection feature
that is restricted to USA and Canada.
Ah, it seems Apple enabled it 2 days ago: https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2025/02/hearing-aid-feature-available-today-with-airpods-pro-2/
On 26/02/2025 11:26, Theo wrote:
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:59:24 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK. There >>> were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that they would
expedite the process but no date has been announced.
According to Apple the Hearing Test feature and the Hearing Aid feature
is available in UK and Ireland. It's only the Hearing Protection feature >> that is restricted to USA and Canada.
Ah, it seems Apple enabled it 2 days ago: https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2025/02/hearing-aid-feature-available-today-with-airpods-pro-2/
Manufacturers of hearing aids must have been hugely against this move,
some their products are often overpriced for some types of hearing loss.
So now it looks like Apple users can self diagnose and fix their hearing problems and skip the visit to the Audiologist, who might otherwise be blaming overuse of the Apple device for making the user deaf in the
first place....
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:59:24 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK. There >>> were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that they would
expedite the process but no date has been announced.
According to Apple the Hearing Test feature and the Hearing Aid feature
is available in UK and Ireland. It's only the Hearing Protection feature
that is restricted to USA and Canada.
Ah, it seems Apple enabled it 2 days ago: https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2025/02/hearing-aid-feature-available-today-with-airpods-pro-2/
Theo
On 26 Feb 2025 at 11:26:07 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:59:24 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK. There >>>> were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that they would
expedite the process but no date has been announced.
According to Apple the Hearing Test feature and the Hearing Aid feature
is available in UK and Ireland. It's only the Hearing Protection feature >>> that is restricted to USA and Canada.
Ah, it seems Apple enabled it 2 days ago:
https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2025/02/hearing-aid-feature-available-today-with-airpods-pro-2/
Theo
I'll be interested in the self-test results. I have a peculiar issue
since about 18 months ago where the Airpods "transparency" no longer
really works in my right ear - and I've tried three different right
earpods which test fine for other people.
On 4 Mar 2025 at 17:07:54 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 11:26:07 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:59:24 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK. There >>>> were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that they would >>>> expedite the process but no date has been announced.
According to Apple the Hearing Test feature and the Hearing Aid feature >>> is available in UK and Ireland. It's only the Hearing Protection feature >>> that is restricted to USA and Canada.
Ah, it seems Apple enabled it 2 days ago:
https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2025/02/hearing-aid-feature-available
-today-with-airpods-pro-2/
Theo
I'll be interested in the self-test results. I have a peculiar issue
since about 18 months ago where the Airpods "transparency" no longer
really works in my right ear - and I've tried three different right
earpods which test fine for other people.
Well, that came back with "no significant issues", 1db loss left ear,
5db loss right ear. Categorisation is that 0-24db loss is "little to no loss".
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 4 Mar 2025 at 17:07:54 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 11:26:07 GMT, "Theo" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:59:24 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK.
There were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that
they would expedite the process but no date has been announced.
According to Apple the Hearing Test feature and the Hearing Aid feature >>> is available in UK and Ireland. It's only the Hearing Protection feature
that is restricted to USA and Canada.
Ah, it seems Apple enabled it 2 days ago:
https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2025/02/hearing-aid-feature-available >> -today-with-airpods-pro-2/
Theo
I'll be interested in the self-test results. I have a peculiar issue since about 18 months ago where the Airpods "transparency" no longer really works in my right ear - and I've tried three different right earpods which test fine for other people.
Well, that came back with "no significant issues", 1db loss left ear,
5db loss right ear. Categorisation is that 0-24db loss is "little to no loss".
Is this over the whole range or just at one frequecy? dB is a relative measurement (like percent) so have they said what they are comparing it
with?
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 4 Mar 2025 at 17:07:54 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 11:26:07 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:59:24 GMT, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AIUI hearing aid functionality is not approved for use in the UK. There >>>>>> were noises a couple of wweks ago from the government that they would >>>>>> expedite the process but no date has been announced.
According to Apple the Hearing Test feature and the Hearing Aid feature >>>>> is available in UK and Ireland. It's only the Hearing Protection feature >>>>> that is restricted to USA and Canada.
Ah, it seems Apple enabled it 2 days ago:
https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2025/02/hearing-aid-feature-available >>>> -today-with-airpods-pro-2/
Theo
I'll be interested in the self-test results. I have a peculiar issue
since about 18 months ago where the Airpods "transparency" no longer
really works in my right ear - and I've tried three different right
earpods which test fine for other people.
Well, that came back with "no significant issues", 1db loss left ear,
5db loss right ear. Categorisation is that 0-24db loss is "little to no
loss".
Is this over the whole range or just at one frequecy? dB is a relative measurement (like percent) so have they said what they are comparing it
with?
I recently purchased a new bike and was disappointed that the bell
didn't work. Having sent a complaint to the manufacturer I subsequently discovered that everyone else could hear the ping of the bell, only I
could hear nothing.
I know that some in this group are, like me, superannuated so I wonder
if any are using Apple's Airpod Pro 2 as a hearing aid and with what
success.
The iPods were delivered this morning. I have followed instructions,
fitted the correct plugs and taken the hearing test which tells me that
my left ear has mild and my right ear moderate hearing loss. I still
can't hear the bell!
On 26 Feb 2025 at 09:39:14 GMT, I <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
I recently purchased a new bike and was disappointed that the bell
didn't work. Having sent a complaint to the manufacturer I subsequently discovered that everyone else could hear the ping of the bell, only I
could hear nothing.
*Snip*
I know that some in this group are, like me, superannuated so I wonder
if any are using Apple's Airpod Pro 2 as a hearing aid and with what success.
The iPods were delivered this morning. I have followed instructions,
fitted the correct plugs and taken the hearing test which tells me that
my left ear has mild and my right ear moderate hearing loss. I still
can't hear the bell!
I didn't mention this before but I also have tinnitus. It is possible, I suppose, that the frequency of the tinnitus matches the frequency of the bell. I remember that I had a kitchen timer that I couldn't hear for
that very reason.
Disappointed.
Michael Phillips <me@odtaa.com.invalid> wrote:
I still can't hear the bell!
You do have transparency on, I assume?
I didn't mention this before but I also have tinnitus.
Surprising. The Airpods should be capable of amplifying
over the tintinitus level,
Disappointed.
Strange. Hearing loss may be uneven,
with some frequencies being more strongly depressed than others.
But that bell should be producing more than a single frequency,
Jan
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