I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space
between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?
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On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Cheers - Jaimie
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On 5 Mar 2025 at 16:08:33 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the >> fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space
between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Cheers - Jaimie

I do have custom User Style Sheet entries in the Advanced section which
looks somewhat relevant, particularly the height: element?

/* Add private browsing indicator per tab */
.tab.private-browsing .label:before {
content: "🕶";
}

/* tab decor */
.tab {
height: 26px;
font-size: small;
// font-style: italic;
// font-weight: bold;
opacity: 0.8;
border: solid 1px #00000033; // transparent black lines
}

/* Remove new tab button */
.newtab-button-box {
display: none;
}

/* Only show tab close X on hover */
.tab:not(:hover) .closebox {
display: none;
}
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On 5 Mar 2025 at 4:08:33 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the >> fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space
between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Sorry - I put that really badly! Should have said: I normally use Tree Style Tab but am trying out the new built-in Firefox vertical tabs. That's what has the excessive space! (I thought for a moment you'd uncovered a whole screenful of options i'd missed :)

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On 5 Mar 2025 at 17:02:41 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 4:08:33 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the
fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space
between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Sorry - I put that really badly! Should have said: I normally use Tree Style Tab but am trying out the new built-in Firefox vertical tabs. That's what has the excessive space! (I thought for a moment you'd uncovered a whole screenful
of options i'd missed :)

Ah! Yeah, they're terrible. In basically the same way as the Edge and
Safari ones are terrible.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Hell hath no fury like someone who is enraged that
someone else is getting away with something they're
scared to try. - lilairen, LJ

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On 6 Mar 2025 at 7:12:42 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 17:02:41 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 4:08:33 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the
fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space >>>> between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Sorry - I put that really badly! Should have said: I normally use Tree Style >> Tab but am trying out the new built-in Firefox vertical tabs. That's what has
the excessive space! (I thought for a moment you'd uncovered a whole screenful
of options i'd missed :)

Ah! Yeah, they're terrible. In basically the same way as the Edge and
Safari ones are terrible.

I thought at least there might be a way to enable but hide the built-in vertical tabs, and carry on using TST, so as to get rid of the horizontal tab bar, but even that seems impossible. Grr.

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On 6 Mar 2025 at 20:23:00 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 7:12:42 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 17:02:41 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 4:08:33 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the
fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space >>>>> between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Sorry - I put that really badly! Should have said: I normally use Tree Style
Tab but am trying out the new built-in Firefox vertical tabs. That's what has
the excessive space! (I thought for a moment you'd uncovered a whole screenful
of options i'd missed :)

Ah! Yeah, they're terrible. In basically the same way as the Edge and
Safari ones are terrible.

I thought at least there might be a way to enable but hide the built-in vertical tabs, and carry on using TST, so as to get rid of the horizontal tab bar, but even that seems impossible. Grr.

https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-tabs-at-the-top-of-firefox

is what I followed. Works perfectly. On the Mac the profiles directory
is in your user Library, Application Support, Firefox, Profiles. If you
have more than one folder there, check up a level for profiles.ini and
work out which one is Default.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
I hope I live long enough
to vindicate my pessimism
-- http://www.boasas.com/?c=1108

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On 6 Mar 2025 at 23:34:21 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 20:23:00 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 7:12:42 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 17:02:41 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 4:08:33 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> >>>>> wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the
fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space >>>>>> between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Sorry - I put that really badly! Should have said: I normally use Tree Style
Tab but am trying out the new built-in Firefox vertical tabs. That's what has
the excessive space! (I thought for a moment you'd uncovered a whole screenful
of options i'd missed :)

Ah! Yeah, they're terrible. In basically the same way as the Edge and
Safari ones are terrible.

I thought at least there might be a way to enable but hide the built-in
vertical tabs, and carry on using TST, so as to get rid of the horizontal tab
bar, but even that seems impossible. Grr.

https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-tabs-at-the-top-of-firefox

is what I followed. Works perfectly. On the Mac the profiles directory
is in your user Library, Application Support, Firefox, Profiles. If you
have more than one folder there, check up a level for profiles.ini and
work out which one is Default.

Cheers - Jaimie

My userChrome.css:

}


--
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that do their job in the most sullen, passive-aggressive
way possible, and they totally get away with it!"
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On 6 Mar 2025 at 23:35:48 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 23:34:21 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 20:23:00 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 7:12:42 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 17:02:41 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 4:08:33 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the
fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space >>>>>>> between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Sorry - I put that really badly! Should have said: I normally use Tree Style
Tab but am trying out the new built-in Firefox vertical tabs. That's what has
the excessive space! (I thought for a moment you'd uncovered a whole screenful
of options i'd missed :)

Ah! Yeah, they're terrible. In basically the same way as the Edge and
Safari ones are terrible.

I thought at least there might be a way to enable but hide the built-in
vertical tabs, and carry on using TST, so as to get rid of the horizontal tab
bar, but even that seems impossible. Grr.

https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-tabs-at-the-top-of-firefox

is what I followed. Works perfectly. On the Mac the profiles directory
is in your user Library, Application Support, Firefox, Profiles. If you
have more than one folder there, check up a level for profiles.ini and
work out which one is Default.

Cheers - Jaimie

My userChrome.css:

}

.... apparently got eaten by Usenapp. Interesting! Let me try that again quoted:

<p class="level1">/* Hide the top tab bar */</p><p class="level1">#main-window[tabsintitlebar="true"]:not([extradragspace= "true"]) #TabsToolbar {</p><p class="level1"> opacity: 0;</p><p
class="level1"> pointer-events: none;</p><p class="level1">}</p><p class="level1">#main-window:not([tabsintitlebar="true"]) #TabsToolbar
{</p><p class="level1"> visibility: collapse !important;</p><p class="level1">}</p><p class="level1"></p><p class="level1">/* Hide
the sidebar top label */</p><p class="level1">#sidebar-header {</p><p class="level1"> display: none;</p>> }
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makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away
your whole leg.
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On 6 Mar 2025 at 23:41:04 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 23:35:48 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 23:34:21 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 20:23:00 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 7:12:42 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 17:02:41 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> >>>>> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 4:08:33 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2025 at 12:10:11 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:

I'm just trying this out - as someone said, Tree Style Tab is great, but the
fewer extensions the better - but I can't see a way to reduce the space
between tabs, which seems excessive. Am I missing something?

Space between tabs is zero for me. https://imgur.com/a/M3iCvyY

Not sure which options might affect that tbh.

Sorry - I put that really badly! Should have said: I normally use Tree Style
Tab but am trying out the new built-in Firefox vertical tabs. That's what has
the excessive space! (I thought for a moment you'd uncovered a whole screenful
of options i'd missed :)

Ah! Yeah, they're terrible. In basically the same way as the Edge and >>>>> Safari ones are terrible.

I thought at least there might be a way to enable but hide the built-in >>>> vertical tabs, and carry on using TST, so as to get rid of the horizontal tab
bar, but even that seems impossible. Grr.

https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-tabs-at-the-top-of-firefox

is what I followed. Works perfectly. On the Mac the profiles directory
is in your user Library, Application Support, Firefox, Profiles. If you
have more than one folder there, check up a level for profiles.ini and
work out which one is Default.

Cheers - Jaimie

My userChrome.css:

}

.... apparently got eaten by Usenapp. Interesting! Let me try that again quoted:

<p class="level1">/* Hide the top tab bar */

<pclass="level1">#main-window[tabsintitlebar="true"]:not([extradragspac
e=</p>

"true"]) #TabsToolbar {

opacity: 0;

<pclass="level1"> pointer-events: none;</p>

}

<pclass="level1">#main-window:not([tabsintitlebar="true"])
#TabsToolbar</p>

{

visibility: collapse !important;

<pclass="level1">}</p>

/* Hide
the sidebar top label */

#sidebar-header {

<pclass="level1"> display: none;</p>

}</p>

Aaaand I've raised a bug with Andre about both of these things :D https://www.usenapp.com/forum/d/506-editor-issue-with-pasted-css-text

That bug includes the raw css, you can grab it from there if you like.

Cheers - Jaimie
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-- Sea Wasp, rasfw

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On 6 Mar 2025 at 11:34:21 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 20:23:00 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

I thought at least there might be a way to enable but hide the built-in
vertical tabs, and carry on using TST, so as to get rid of the horizontal tab
bar, but even that seems impossible. Grr.

https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-tabs-at-the-top-of-firefox

is what I followed. Works perfectly. On the Mac the profiles directory
is in your user Library, Application Support, Firefox, Profiles. If you
have more than one folder there, check up a level for profiles.ini and
work out which one is Default.

Yeehaa! Thanks. I really should have been able to find that myself before now! Farewell to the pesky horizontal bar. I'll have a look at your other .css mods next. And thanks also for flagging the Usenapp bug.
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On 7 Mar 2025 at 10:26:45 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
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On 6 Mar 2025 at 11:34:21 pm GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 6 Mar 2025 at 20:23:00 GMT, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

I thought at least there might be a way to enable but hide the built-in
vertical tabs, and carry on using TST, so as to get rid of the horizontal tab
bar, but even that seems impossible. Grr.

https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-tabs-at-the-top-of-firefox

is what I followed. Works perfectly. On the Mac the profiles directory
is in your user Library, Application Support, Firefox, Profiles. If you
have more than one folder there, check up a level for profiles.ini and
work out which one is Default.

Yeehaa! Thanks. I really should have been able to find that myself before now!
Farewell to the pesky horizontal bar. I'll have a look at your other .css mods
next. And thanks also for flagging the Usenapp bug.

Yay! It does feel like more effort than it should be, getting rid of
that top tab bar.

Cheers - Jaimie
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of all human productivity, motivation and achievement
is stored.
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TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

Yeehaa! Thanks. I really should have been able to find that myself before now!
Farewell to the pesky horizontal bar. I'll have a look at your other .css mods
next. And thanks also for flagging the Usenapp bug.

Going in the opposite direction, I use: https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx

to get 6 rows of tabs, which I find much more usable than stock FF or
vertical tabs. Each to their own...

Theo

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