I still need to run some 32 bit apps though. I thought that I might be able to
run an older system under emulation, but it seems that won’t work, although if
I were to install Windows I could run 32 bit Windows apps? That ain’t what I
want. The solution would seem to be to use screen sharing to connect to my old
iMac, which is still running Snow Leopard upstairs. Screen sharing works beautifully, but there’s no sound. Surely there must be a better way than running an audio lead all the way down the stairs?
Both machines have apps which allow you to redirect the sound output from the speakers to another app. Soundflower on the old iMac, and it’s modern equivalent Blackhole on the new one. Surely that sound can be transmitted to another machine on the network?
On 30 Mar 2025 at 1:08:09 pm BST, "Phil Taylor" <nothere@ail.invalid> wrote:
I still need to run some 32 bit apps though. I thought that I might be able to
run an older system under emulation, but it seems that won’t work, although if
I were to install Windows I could run 32 bit Windows apps? That ain’t what I
want. The solution would seem to be to use screen sharing to connect to my old
iMac, which is still running Snow Leopard upstairs. Screen sharing works
beautifully, but there’s no sound. Surely there must be a better way than >> running an audio lead all the way down the stairs?
Both machines have apps which allow you to redirect the sound output from the
speakers to another app. Soundflower on the old iMac, and it’s modern
equivalent Blackhole on the new one. Surely that sound can be transmitted to >> another machine on the network?
Would Rogue Amoeba's Airfoil do the job? $42 though...
https://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/
So I got me a new Mac. My 2019 MBP’s keyboard has died (BButttterflyy keys).
So off to John Lewis, and a nice new M4 iMac. Oh the joy of unpacking a new Apple device! First reaction was “My God it’s thin”. My last iMac (2007) was
about an inch thick, and seemed quite svelte, but this one’s a third of that.
Obviously there wasn’t room to fit a power supply in that space, so that is
now external. There were no instructions with it? OK, I may be 82 years old, but I’ve been using Apple gear since the Mac Plus, so let’s get this thing
running.
Where to plug in the ethernet? There are only four Thunderbolt ports on the back - I guess there wasn’t room for an RJ45 socket either. It was a couple of
days before I noticed the socket on the power supply block. Also noticed that that three inch square package didn’t actually contain an Apple sticker, as I
had thought, but contained instructions, basically saying plug it in and switch it on, then follow the prompts.
Never used a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse before - needed my glasses to find the On switches, which are minute. Booted up, and the mouse and Kb worked immediately, so paired already. Went through the Apple registration rigmarole and set it to download the latest system version. Takes a while, as I have a slow internet connection, but all was well. Sequoia 15.3.2 looks familiar enough. Last OS I used was Mojave, which I kept on my MBP because I need to run a lot of old 32-bit apps. Copied my stuff over from the MBP’s Time Machine
backup, and spent a happy hour deleting all the irrelevant stuff.
I still need to run some 32 bit apps though. I thought that I might be able to
run an older system under emulation, but it seems that won’t work, although if
I were to install Windows I could run 32 bit Windows apps? That ain’t what I
want. The solution would seem to be to use screen sharing to connect to my old
iMac, which is still running Snow Leopard upstairs. Screen sharing works beautifully, but there’s no sound. Surely there must be a better way than running an audio lead all the way down the stairs?
Both machines have apps which allow you to redirect the sound output from the speakers to another app. Soundflower on the old iMac, and it’s modern equivalent Blackhole on the new one. Surely that sound can be transmitted to another machine on the network?
Phil Taylor
Welcome to the club!
I got mine at the beginning of last December, replacing a 2017 iMac that had become unreliable for some reason.
Blindingly fast, isn't t? It only takes about two minitues to do a do a Restart, and a full update once the download s complete (the limiting factor) takes about a quarter of the time the 2017 machine took.
Whether it was good luck or skill I don't remember (I am 93) but I found the Ethernet socket straight away. Very nice to have it down out of the way!
My only real problem was setting up TouchID. I'm not good at getting it so that I always hit the sweet spot - maybe I should set up four or five, all slightly different?
The keyboard resembled that of the 2017 iMac - too faint to read for my ageing
eyes. But I overcame that by printing labels for the keys that I *could* read.
Enjoy!
Welcome to the club!
I got mine at the beginning of last December, replacing a 2017 iMac that had become unreliable for some reason.
Blindingly fast, isn't t? It only takes about two minitues to do a do a Restart, and a full update once the download s complete (the limiting factor) takes about a quarter of the time the 2017 machine took.
Whether it was good luck or skill I don't remember (I am 93) but I found the Ethernet socket straight away. Very nice to have it down out of the way!
My only real problem was setting up TouchID. I'm not good at getting it so that I always hit the sweet spot - maybe I should set up four or five, all slightly different?
On 31/03/2025 08:02, John Hill wrote:
[....]
Welcome to the club!
I got mine at the beginning of last December, replacing a 2017 iMac that had >> become unreliable for some reason.
Blindingly fast, isn't t? It only takes about two minitues to do a do a
Restart, and a full update once the download s complete (the limiting factor)
takes about a quarter of the time the 2017 machine took.
Whether it was good luck or skill I don't remember (I am 93) but I found the >> Ethernet socket straight away. Very nice to have it down out of the way!
My only real problem was setting up TouchID. I'm not good at getting it so >> that I always hit the sweet spot - maybe I should set up four or five, all >> slightly different?
The keyboard resembled that of the 2017 iMac - too faint to read for my ageing
eyes. But I overcame that by printing labels for the keys that I *could* read.
Enjoy!
Hello Old John :-)
May I ask what you did with your old 27 inch iMac?
I'm running Linux Mint on my old 24 inch iMac from 2008!
On 30 Mar 2025 at 13:08:09 BST, "Phil Taylor" <nothere@ail.invalid>
wrote:
I still need to run some 32 bit apps though.
Which ones? There might be appropriate replacements.
Cheers - Jaimie
On 31 Mar 2025 at 08:38:51 BST, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
On 31/03/2025 08:02, John Hill wrote:
[....]
Welcome to the club!
I got mine at the beginning of last December, replacing a 2017 iMac that had
become unreliable for some reason.
Blindingly fast, isn't t? It only takes about two minitues to do a do a
Restart, and a full update once the download s complete (the limiting factor)
takes about a quarter of the time the 2017 machine took.
Whether it was good luck or skill I don't remember (I am 93) but I found the
Ethernet socket straight away. Very nice to have it down out of the way! >>>
My only real problem was setting up TouchID. I'm not good at getting it so >>> that I always hit the sweet spot - maybe I should set up four or five, all >>> slightly different?
The keyboard resembled that of the 2017 iMac - too faint to read for my ageing
eyes. But I overcame that by printing labels for the keys that I *could* read.
Enjoy!
Hello Old John :-)
May I ask what you did with your old 27 inch iMac?
I'm running Linux Mint on my old 24 inch iMac from 2008!
My daughter disposed of it for me - I have no idea where it went.
I have neither room nor use for secondary computers!
I still need to run some 32 bit apps though. I thought that I might be able to
run an older system under emulation, but it seems that won't work, although if
I were to install Windows I could run 32 bit Windows apps? That ain't what I want. The solution would seem to be to use screen sharing to connect to my old
iMac, which is still running Snow Leopard upstairs. Screen sharing works beautifully, but there's no sound. Surely there must be a better way than running an audio lead all the way down the stairs?
I still need to run some 32 bit apps though.
On 30 Mar 2025 at 13:08:09 BST, "Phil Taylor" <nothere@ail.invalid>
wrote:
I still need to run some 32 bit apps though.
Which ones? There might be appropriate replacements.
On 30 Mar 2025 at 17:02:31 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2025 at 13:08:09 BST, "Phil Taylor" <nothere@ail.invalid>
wrote:
I still need to run some 32 bit apps though.
Which ones? There might be appropriate replacements.
Cheers - Jaimie
These are mostly apps which I wrote myself, precisely because there was no equivalent.
They are Carbon apps, written in Pascal, and in some cases dependant upon libraries which are never going to be updated.
I'm forced to admit that I am getting too old to learn Swift, and the monstrosity that is X-Code!
On 2025-03-31, Phil Taylor <nothere@ail.invalid> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2025 at 17:02:31 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 30 Mar 2025 at 13:08:09 BST, "Phil Taylor" <nothere@ail.invalid>
wrote:
I still need to run some 32 bit apps though.
Which ones? There might be appropriate replacements.
These are mostly apps which I wrote myself, precisely because there was no >> equivalent.
They are Carbon apps, written in Pascal, and in some cases dependant upon
libraries which are never going to be updated.
I'm forced to admit that I am getting too old to learn Swift, and the
monstrosity that is X-Code!
I've tried the Swift Playground app but I'm still light years from making a useful app! But it was fun learning the fundamentals of Swift programming. There are plenty of online tutorials too.
On 31/03/2025 09:43, John Hill wrote:
On 31 Mar 2025 at 08:38:51 BST, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
On 31/03/2025 08:02, John Hill wrote:
[....]
Welcome to the club!
I got mine at the beginning of last December, replacing a 2017 iMac that had
become unreliable for some reason.
Blindingly fast, isn't t? It only takes about two minitues to do a do a >>>> Restart, and a full update once the download s complete (the limiting factor)
takes about a quarter of the time the 2017 machine took.
Whether it was good luck or skill I don't remember (I am 93) but I found the
Ethernet socket straight away. Very nice to have it down out of the way! >>>>
My only real problem was setting up TouchID. I'm not good at getting it so >>>> that I always hit the sweet spot - maybe I should set up four or five, all >>>> slightly different?
The keyboard resembled that of the 2017 iMac - too faint to read for my ageing
eyes. But I overcame that by printing labels for the keys that I *could* read.
Enjoy!
Hello Old John :-)
May I ask what you did with your old 27 inch iMac?
I'm running Linux Mint on my old 24 inch iMac from 2008!
My daughter disposed of it for me - I have no idea where it went.
Understood. Thank you. 🙂
I have neither room nor use for secondary computers!
That's a shame! Have you been relegated to a single room now, like many
old folk?!!!
On 31 Mar 2025 at 11:23:44 BST, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
On 31/03/2025 09:43, John Hill wrote:
On 31 Mar 2025 at 08:38:51 BST, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
On 31/03/2025 08:02, John Hill wrote:
[....]
Welcome to the club!
I got mine at the beginning of last December, replacing a 2017 iMac that had
become unreliable for some reason.
Blindingly fast, isn't t? It only takes about two minitues to do a do a >>>>> Restart, and a full update once the download s complete (the limiting factor)
takes about a quarter of the time the 2017 machine took.
Whether it was good luck or skill I don't remember (I am 93) but I found the
Ethernet socket straight away. Very nice to have it down out of the way! >>>>>
My only real problem was setting up TouchID. I'm not good at getting it so
that I always hit the sweet spot - maybe I should set up four or five, all
slightly different?
The keyboard resembled that of the 2017 iMac - too faint to read for my ageing
eyes. But I overcame that by printing labels for the keys that I *could* read.
Enjoy!
Hello Old John :-)
May I ask what you did with your old 27 inch iMac?
I'm running Linux Mint on my old 24 inch iMac from 2008!
My daughter disposed of it for me - I have no idea where it went.
Understood. Thank you. 🙂
I have neither room nor use for secondary computers!
That's a shame! Have you been relegated to a single room now, like many
old folk?!!!
No, I live on my own. in a nominally three bedrom bungalow. But it suited us to use the second bedroom as a dining room and the third as a study. It's just
about big enough for a bed.
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