On 25.05.25 22:36, D.M. Procida wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

"Page last updated at 15:30 GMT, Thursday, 28 January 2010"

Probably the media content was deleted. Nowadays such links are
encrypted which you can recognise by the "https://". Some browsers even
refuse to open the page at all.

My browsers do not even show a placeholder for the media content
anymore. I checked with Safari on a Mac and Firefox on a Mac.

Jörg

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On May 25, 2025 at 4:36:27 PM EDT, "D.M. Procida" <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

I have no idea. Maybe get a browser from 2010?

BTW, if you are so depressed that you can't be bothered to put on clothes when going out into the world, then its time to get back on your meds. Who goes shopping in pajamas?

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Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Daniele

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On 25.05.25 23:06, Tyrone wrote:

On May 25, 2025 at 4:36:27 PM EDT, "D.M. Procida" <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

I have no idea. Maybe get a browser from 2010?

BTW, if you are so depressed that you can't be bothered to put on clothes when
going out into the world, then its time to get back on your meds. Who goes shopping in pajamas?

I think in Britain everything is possible even that people leave their
homes for shopping in PJs.

Britain as whole left the EU even without trousers. So why does all this surprise you?

*SCNR*

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Contact BBC's web site people about it.


D.M. Procida <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Daniele

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D.M. Procida <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

The Wayback Machine?

<https://web.archive.org>

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On 25 May 2025 at 21:36:27 BST, D.M. Procida wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

My guess is that it was a Flash video embedded in an obsolete web page - the video/link is long gone.

Best contact the BBC.

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On 2025-05-26, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 25 May 2025 at 21:36:27 BST, D.M. Procida wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

My guess is that it was a Flash video embedded in an obsolete web page - the video/link is long gone.

Best contact the BBC.

The BBC has not been very good at keeping archives of its TV material. Lots
of episodes of classic programmes such as Doctor Who, Dad’s Army etc. have been lost, destroyed or the tapes overwritten. So it’s quite likely that
any video associated with the Tesco pyjama article no longer exists. They
may well argue that they don’t the storage capability to keep all video material but as the “national broadcaster” they could do better.

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On 25/05/2025 21:36, D.M. Procida wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Daniele

This 'works' for me!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/10617995

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Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-05-26, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 25 May 2025 at 21:36:27 BST, D.M. Procida wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

My guess is that it was a Flash video embedded in an obsolete web page - the
video/link is long gone.

Best contact the BBC.

The BBC has not been very good at keeping archives of its TV material. Lots of episodes of classic programmes such as Doctor Who, Dad’s Army etc. have been lost, destroyed or the tapes overwritten. So it’s quite likely that any video associated with the Tesco pyjama article no longer exists. They
may well argue that they don’t the storage capability to keep all video material but as the “national broadcaster” they could do better.

Viewing the page source, there's a link in the player HTML to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/emp/8480000/8485500/8485559.xml

which has a section:

<item kind="programme" duration="106" identifier="8485559"> <id>tag:bbc.co.uk,2008:cps:story:8485559</id> <media kind="audio" duration="106" type="audio/mpeg"> <connection kind="akamai" application="ondemand" identifier="mp3:public/mp3/news/wales/506000/506696_au_NewsWebMP3" server="cp45413.edgefcs.net"/>

so that's on the Akamai CDN. Unfortunately cp45413.edgefcs.net no longer resolves, so there the trail goes cold. The Wayback machine has (almost) nothing from that server.

It doesn't mean the BBC don't still have it, just that the infrastructure
for serving it has been decommissioned. You'd have to enquire from them whether there's another way to get hold of the artifact, which they may have
on non-public-facing servers or in cold storage.

Theo

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On 2025-05-26, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-05-26, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 25 May 2025 at 21:36:27 BST, D.M. Procida wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

My guess is that it was a Flash video embedded in an obsolete web page - the >> video/link is long gone.

Best contact the BBC.

The BBC has not been very good at keeping archives of its TV material. Lots of episodes of classic programmes such as Doctor Who, Dad’s Army etc. have been lost, destroyed or the tapes overwritten. So it’s quite likely that any video associated with the Tesco pyjama article no longer exists. They
may well argue that they don’t the storage capability to keep all video material but as the “national broadcaster” they could do better.

Having said that, look what I've just found on YT ;-)

<https://youtu.be/LJLaJar6lFA>

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On 26 May 2025 at 09:50:20 BST, Alan B wrote:

On 2025-05-26, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 25 May 2025 at 21:36:27 BST, D.M. Procida wrote:

Occasionally I want to play back material from BBC news that isn't playable in
modern browsers.

An example, the classic http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8485559.stm.

Any suggestions?

My guess is that it was a Flash video embedded in an obsolete web page - the >> video/link is long gone.

Best contact the BBC.

The BBC has not been very good at keeping archives of its TV material. Lots of episodes of classic programmes such as Doctor Who, Dad’s Army etc. have been lost, destroyed or the tapes overwritten. So it’s quite likely that any video associated with the Tesco pyjama article no longer exists. They
may well argue that they don’t the storage capability to keep all video material but as the “national broadcaster” they could do better.

Yes, it's annoying. I have written to them in the past asking for the release of old Peel sessions etc. I can't remember the reason - it was something obscure about staffing and time - but the answer was no.
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