On 24/07/2025 16:43, Mike Easter wrote:
BDB wrote:
I *DO* trust Howard Oakley!
And HO trusts and extols Etre.
*Maybe mistakenly*.
You’re probably familiar with EtreCheck, the free app which is
commonly used in Apple Community Support forums to help diagnose
problems, but have you paid for its Pro features? If you want to get
the best performance from your Mac, that’s money well-spent.
While your OP to this topic was 'well-spoken' it belies the fact that
your own insight is *blind*. Worse than blind, badly distorted beyond
recognition.
I have NO DOUBTS about HO, a fellow naval officer.
I suspect HO never even thought to question the honesty of "John Daniel" someone who is simply a "will-o'-the-wisp" persona with nothing to
quantify who and what he is!
On Jul 24, 2025 at 9:47:44 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <mef6dgF8lp9U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/07/2025 17:05, David B. wrote:
On 24/07/2025 16:43, Mike Easter wrote:
BDB wrote:
I *DO* trust Howard Oakley!
And HO trusts and extols Etre.
*Maybe mistakenly*.
You’re probably familiar with EtreCheck, the free app which is
commonly used in Apple Community Support forums to help diagnose
problems, but have you paid for its Pro features? If you want to get >>>>> the best performance from your Mac, that’s money well-spent.
While your OP to this topic was 'well-spoken' it belies the fact that
your own insight is *blind*. Worse than blind, badly distorted beyond >>>> recognition.
I have NO DOUBTS about HO, a fellow naval officer.
I suspect HO never even thought to question the honesty of "John Daniel" >>> someone who is simply a "will-o'-the-wisp" persona with nothing to
quantify who and what he is!
He even removed his LinkedIn page when I questioned him!
https://i.ibb.co/NnQtbS98/BC9-C56-A5-B16-B-446-D-A5-BC-63293-B2-D4440-1-105-c.jpg
No honest fellow would do that!
What makes you think that? Not a rhetorical question... why could a person who
is generally honest and decent not remove their LinkedIn page, especially if they are being followed around by someone asking questions over and over?
What's hilarious is you asking the most dishonest person on Usenet
for advice regarding honesty.
Now that's quite funny.
Oh, BTW, lose the ChatGpt replies.
On Jul 24, 2025 at 1:30:26 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
What makes you think that? Not a rhetorical question... why could a person who
is generally honest and decent not remove their LinkedIn page, especially if
they are being followed around by someone asking questions over and over? >>
appreciate your question — it's fair to ask why I see that as a red flag.
Let me be clear: simply removing a LinkedIn page isn't, by itself, proof
of dishonesty. But context matters. When someone runs a paid software
product, makes strong claims about its capabilities, refuses to answer
reasonable support emails (even when support is part of the paid
package), and then vanishes from multiple platforms when asked
legitimate questions — that’s where the suspicion starts.
"Reasonable support emails"? Does that include "Where do you work?" and "how much money have you made from EtreCheck?" and "What is your business address?"
and accusing him CONSTANTLY of including "malware" in the download? All based
only on your own paranoia.
You have done nothing BUT hound this poor guy for YEARS. And yet you are STILL surprised when you get banned from every moderated support forum in the galaxy.
Countless smart people - meaning anyone with an IQ higher than a 5th grade kid
- have looked at it and told you over and over that it is safe.
Stupid people should listen to smart people. Not the voices in their heads.
Stupid people should listen to smart people.
Not the voices in their heads.
On 24/07/2025 23:47, Tyrone wrote:
<snip>
Stupid people should listen to smart people.
Unfortunately, stupid people (like Brooksy) *don't* listen to smart
people, they are too stupid / arrogant to realise they are stupid and so
they *never* stop being stupid.
Not the voices in their heads.
And *another* whole issue when it comes to Brooksy ... or is it another
or part of the same thing?
Stupid enough to not realise he is and also stupid enough to hold
fantasy over fact?
I'm having similar issues dealing with someone just like him now. He
can't understand a DMM or a PC based diagnostic unit and so resorts to
using a hammer on everything.
No matter how many time you explain or get him to hold fire, the urge to
do *anything*, even if that just causes damage, causes others more work, doesn't seem to stop him and he never learns from it. He simply doesn't
know he doesn't know.
Then the support stops and he sits in all the stuff that was working but
he then broke because he doesn't understand how to use it properly.
On Jul 24, 2025 at 10:30:26 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <mef8tiFbassU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/07/2025 18:14, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jul 24, 2025 at 9:47:44 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<mef6dgF8lp9U4@mid.individual.net>:
On 24/07/2025 17:05, David B. wrote:
On 24/07/2025 16:43, Mike Easter wrote:
BDB wrote:
I *DO* trust Howard Oakley!
And HO trusts and extols Etre.
*Maybe mistakenly*.
You’re probably familiar with EtreCheck, the free app which is >>>>>>> commonly used in Apple Community Support forums to help diagnose >>>>>>> problems, but have you paid for its Pro features? If you want to get >>>>>>> the best performance from your Mac, that’s money well-spent.
While your OP to this topic was 'well-spoken' it belies the fact that >>>>>> your own insight is *blind*. Worse than blind, badly distorted beyond >>>>>> recognition.
I have NO DOUBTS about HO, a fellow naval officer.
I suspect HO never even thought to question the honesty of "John Daniel" >>>>> someone who is simply a "will-o'-the-wisp" persona with nothing to
quantify who and what he is!
He even removed his LinkedIn page when I questioned him!
https://i.ibb.co/NnQtbS98/BC9-C56-A5-B16-B-446-D-A5-BC-63293-B2-D4440-1-105-c.jpg
No honest fellow would do that!
What makes you think that? Not a rhetorical question... why could a person who
is generally honest and decent not remove their LinkedIn page, especially if
they are being followed around by someone asking questions over and over? >>
appreciate your question — it's fair to ask why I see that as a red flag.
Let me be clear: simply removing a LinkedIn page isn't, by itself, proof
of dishonesty. But context matters. When someone runs a paid software
product, makes strong claims about its capabilities, refuses to answer
reasonable support emails (even when support is part of the paid
package), and then vanishes from multiple platforms when asked
legitimate questions — that’s where the suspicion starts.
What questions?
Removing a LinkedIn profile after being asked for clarity on credentials
or background doesn't automatically signal guilt, but it can appear
evasive — especially if the individual is selling something to the
public and benefiting from trust built within communities like MacRumors
or Apple Support forums.
There can also be extenuating circumstances of not wanting someone to keep asking questions seen as inappropriate.
I'm not trying to hound anyone — but transparency and accountability
matter, especially in tech where users often rely on software to
diagnose or alter critical systems. It’s not unreasonable to ask: Who is >> behind this tool I’m being told to trust?
If you do not trust it then do not use it. Not sure what else you want.
So yes — context, not just the act, is what shapes my view.
On Jul 25, 2025 at 11:02:23 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <mehv5hFovapU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 25/07/2025 18:29, Brock McNuggets asked yet MORE questions!
Hi Brock,
Thanks again for engaging politely — I really do appreciate it. Let me
try to clarify a few things:
"What questions? Please be specific."
Certainly. The questions I asked John Daniel directly (via the contact
details provided for EtreCheck support) were strictly technical and
focused on:
Clarification of what data EtreCheck collects and where it is
stored or transmitted.
The purpose and function of specific background processes launched
by the app.
The reasons for observed outbound connections made by EtreCheck
when run in offline mode.
Why EtreCheck triggered false positives in several independent
malware and telemetry monitoring tools.
If these were a bunch of emails I can see where it is a bit much, but overall those are not of concern.
None of those were answered — not even with a simple acknowledgment. I
sent polite follow-ups and eventually asked via a public forum whether
others had received support. At that point, John vanished from LinkedIn,
and some of my posts disappeared from public view (as did others
questioning similar things).
"You have also repeatedly insinuated that it is malware..."
I do understand that concern. Let me be clear: I’ve never declared
EtreCheck to be malware.
You have repeatedly insinuated.
What I have said is that, given the opacity
surrounding its operation and the developer's refusal to answer
straightforward queries, it raises red flags. That’s a risk-based
statement, not a claim of confirmed malicious intent. As someone with a
long history of dealing with systems security, I view tools that evade
transparency with extra caution.
What "long history of dealing with systems security"?
"What makes you think you are entitled to know ANYTHING about his
background or qualifications?"
Fair question. My answer: I’m not entitled to anything beyond what he
voluntarily offers. But if someone wants to sell a product that alters
or scans system-level components — especially on macOS — and markets
that tool on the basis of authority or credibility, then it’s perfectly
valid to ask: What qualifies this person to give diagnostics or
remediation advice? If someone benefits commercially from trust, then
transparency helps support that trust.
If you do not like the response simply do not use the product and, please, let
it go. The obsession you have here is unhealthy for you.
"When you focus on him as a person... that makes it personal."
I get that distinction, and I accept that the line can blur. My aim has
never been to dig into private matters or launch ad hominem attacks —
far from it. I’ve raised questions only in relation to the product and
the support structure around it.
No: you also asked about his personal life.
If a person is presenting themselves as
a software authority but declines to engage in support or basic identity
verification, then yes — some personal accountability becomes relevant.
Not really... but if you need it and are not getting it then let it go and just do not use the product.
As for Snit — again, let me reiterate — I consider him a friend. We
disagree sometimes, as all friends do, but I’d never treat him as an
enemy. I hope he knows that.
I do. And I hope you know I feel the same way.
Since snit Michael Glasser of Prescott / Phoenix Arizona has
been stalking and harassing people for years it's open season
on him. He can dish it out, let's see if he can take it.
As long as it is public information of course.
Thanks for joining with us in ignoring snit.
It's already having an effect as he is trying in vain to
start new threads (circus tents) to keep his troll farm alive.
I suspect a snit breakdown is coming.
Don't touch that dial!
ROTFLMAO!
-- pothead "I have a lot of friends who are Democrats, and they’re
idiots. I always say they have big hearts and little brains. Almost
every single policy rolled out failed.” -- Jamie Dimon CEO JPMorgan Chase.
Why should anyone sympathize with an obvious fascist and friend of #47
like you seem to be?
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