On 28 May 2022 at 04:32:32 BST, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
With my 2018 Mini, my Magic Mouse tends to stutter so I wonder whether I >>> should get a Bluetooth dongle and if so which one. This also happened with >>> another such mouse which at the time I assumed to be due to the mouse itself.
Now, with a new one, since it still happens I'm assuming it must be the Mini's
bluetooth not being up to snuff.
2018 Minis have Bluetooth 5.0. Unless it is broken/defective, I find it
impossible to believe that a 2018 Mini can’t keep up with a Bluetooth
mouse.
Broken/defective is not excluded.
Do you have problems with Bluetooth headphones/speakers?
Don't use 'em, headphone plug straight in.
Anyway my original question stands.
On 28 May 2022 at 23:17:16 BST, "Richard Tobin" <Richard Tobin> wrote:
In article <280520221703198035%nospam@nospam.invalid>,It's a long standing feature of the internet.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
a quick google will verify that the earth is flat.
Googling for "is the earth flat" returns "No, the Earth is roughly a
sphere".
here it returns a bunch of links stating that it is flat
I guess Google knows it users.
Identical searches performed on the same search engine in different locations will not return the same results.
In article <280520221448483780%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
a quick google will verify that the earth is flat.Googling for "is the earth flat" returns "No, the Earth is roughly a
sphere".
-- Richard
In article <t6t2n3$1cuk$1...@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk>, Richard Tobin <ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
Clearly in a desktop environment wired connections are always possible.
Not with Apple equipment! They no longer sell wired keyboards orhowever, other companies do,
mice.
plus apple's wireless keyboards and
trackpads can be used wired. only the mouse cannot.
I find little advantage to a wireless mouse or keyboard for a desktop computer, and several disadvantages:
- have to replace battteries or rechargetechnically true, but given that some wireless keyboards & mice last 2
years on a single charge (a few even longer), it's not an issue.
recharging is also very fast.
- no usb ports
that's one of the key *advantages* of bluetooth!
the usb port that would otherwise have been used is now available for
other purposes.
- mouse sometimes wrong way round (Apple's desire to make everythingthat's not an issue with bluetooth or with non-apple mice.
a smooth uniform expanse doesn't help)
it's also instantly noticed and immediately corrected. a sticker on one
end will solve the problem permanently.
- less reliable (magic mouse often disconnects, apparently becauseit very rarely disconnects, and not because of battery issues.
of poor battery contacts)
the current apple mouse has an internal rechargeable battery that is
glued in and *can't* lose contact.
the older version used aa batteries, which fit well.
- more expensive
they're included with the imac, at no additional expense.
they're not included with the mini or studio, however, those macs are intended for people who already have a keyboard and mouse/trackpad.
there's also no requirement to use apple peripherals. some third party wireless peripherals are very cheap.
you're also ignoring that apple's current wireless keyboard includes
touch id, which alone makes it worth it.
and that's apart from any bluetooth problems.which are very rare.
there are also problems with wired peripherals, such as cable and port failures.
nothing is perfect.
But no doubt surveys nonetheless prove that "people" prefer wireless.they do.
apple used to offer both versions, and the wired version didn't sell
enough to justify making it.
not having wires is a huge advantage, plus touch id on the latest
keyboards is a game changer.
the *only* disadvantage for bluetooth keyboards is that if a key needs
to be held down early in the boot process, a wired keyboard is
sometimes the only option. however, it's very, very rare that anyone
needs to do that, and a spare wired keyboard will suffice, even one
from 20 years ago.
On 30. May 2022 at 07:38:14 CEST, "Ray" <amos-...@outlook.com> wrote:
On 28 May 2022 at 23:17:16 BST, "Richard Tobin" <Richard Tobin> wrote:
In article <280520221703198035%nos...@nospam.invalid>,It's a long standing feature of the internet.
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
a quick google will verify that the earth is flat.
Googling for "is the earth flat" returns "No, the Earth is roughly a >>>> sphere".
here it returns a bunch of links stating that it is flat
I guess Google knows it users.
Identical searches performed on the same search engine in different locations
will not return the same results.
Well, maybe the result depends on wheter the earth is flat at the location
of the googler ;-)
usb3 can cause problems in some cases.
Interesting. How can USB3 interfere with Bluetooth?
short answer: same frequency spectrum.
(very) long answer: <https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/white-pape rs/usb3-frequency-interference-paper.pdf>
Wow. I never knew any of this. However, I have personally never encountered this problem. But then, I don¹t use Bluetooth mice and keyboards. Just headphones and speakers. I need to do some tests.
Do you know if this applies to current USB-C connections? Or is this strictly a USB3 issue?
Clearly in a desktop environment wired connections are always possible.
Not with Apple equipment! They no longer sell wired keyboards orhowever, other companies do,
mice.
and that means....
plus apple's wireless keyboards and
trackpads can be used wired. only the mouse cannot.
The reason I always bought a wired KB is because I prefer having a numeric keypad
which the wireless keyboards didn't have.
- no usb ports
that's one of the key *advantages* of bluetooth!
How is that an advantage ?
How do you recharge a keyboard ?
the usb port that would otherwise have been used is now available for
other purposes.
I'd prefer to have a spare on the computer.
I've never liked apple mice apart frojm the early Mac plus mice.
the older version used aa batteries, which fit well.
- more expensive
they're included with the imac, at no additional expense.
Just becausxe they are included in the price doesn't mean they are free.
they're not included with the mini or studio, however, those macs are intended for people who already have a keyboard and mouse/trackpad.
I doubt many people that have bought a Mac over the last 20 years have never had a computer before.
It's obviously just a sales thing to reduce the purchase price of a studio or mini.
nothing is perfect.
But no doubt surveys nonetheless prove that "people" prefer wireless.they do.
People as individuals but we'd not want them in a teaching lab.
I assume public ussage would also be a problem, too easy to slip in the pocket or bag.
not having wires is a huge advantage, plus touch id on the latest
keyboards is a game changer.
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
Maybe the next 'vital' for a keyboard will be face ID, maybe DNA ID.
Or as one of our research studetns is doing in that you don;t need a keyboard or a mouse.
you do everything entirely buy gestures or a plate he has/is devising that you 3d print
and it uses finger/hand waving rather than actually typing.
whisky-dave wrote:
{snip]
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieveEthernet socket on the back of the head?
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
Maybe the next 'vital' for a keyboard will be face ID, maybe DNA ID.
Or as one of our research studetns is doing in that you don;t need a keyboard or a mouse.
you do everything entirely buy gestures or a plate he has/is devising that you 3d print
and it uses finger/hand waving rather than actually typing.
Graham J
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
Maybe the next 'vital' for a keyboard will be face ID, maybe DNA ID.
Or as one of our research studetns is doing in that you don;t need a keyboard or a mouse.
you do everything entirely buy gestures or a plate he has/is devising that you 3d print
and it uses finger/hand waving rather than actually typing.
In article <97f79b9b-45e9-48e3...@googlegroups.com>,
whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
Clearly in a desktop environment wired connections are always possible.
Not with Apple equipment! They no longer sell wired keyboards orhowever, other companies do,
mice.
and that means....that users are not limited to apple bluetooth peripherals.
plus apple's wireless keyboards and
trackpads can be used wired. only the mouse cannot.
The reason I always bought a wired KB is because I prefer having a numeric keypadyes they do.
which the wireless keyboards didn't have.
<https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71Yw0WfNfML._AC_SL1500_.jpg>
apple's first bluetooth keyboard from nearly 20 years ago had a numeric keypad:
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Apple_Wireless_Keyb oard_%28A1016%29.png>
<https://i.imgur.com/M5dhFaQ.jpg>
- no usb ports
that's one of the key *advantages* of bluetooth!
How is that an advantage ?the usb ports can be used for other things.
How do you recharge a keyboard ?connect it to power. duh.
the usb port that would otherwise have been used is now available for other purposes.
I'd prefer to have a spare on the computer.that's where it is.
I've never liked apple mice apart frojm the early Mac plus mice.that's a different issue.
the older version used aa batteries, which fit well.
- more expensive
they're included with the imac, at no additional expense.
Just becausxe they are included in the price doesn't mean they are free.read it again, this time for comprehension.
they're not included with the mini or studio, however, those macs are intended for people who already have a keyboard and mouse/trackpad.
I doubt many people that have bought a Mac over the last 20 years have neverit is not.
had a computer before.
It's obviously just a sales thing to reduce the purchase price of a studio or
mini.
the mini and studio don't include displays either.
macs aren't the only computers that don't include keyboards, mice or displays.
the reason is because people already have them or want to choose their
own if they are buying new ones.
when the mac mini was first introduced nearly 20 years ago, the claim
was 'byodkm', bring your own display, keyboard and mouse.
<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/01/10/apples-mac-mini-is-the-littl e-mac-that-could-15-years-later>
"What does that mean?" asked Jobs. "BYODKM. It means Bring Your Own
Display, Keyboard, and Mouse. We supply the computer. You supply the
rest. So you can take Mac mini, and you can hook it up to let's say
our 20-inch Cinema Display, right? And our keyboard and mouse."
"But the great thing about Mac mini is you can hook it up to any industry-standard display, keyboard, and mouse," he continued. "A lot
of people already have a display and a USB keyboard and mouse, and
so Mac mini will hook up to [those]."
nothing is perfect.
But no doubt surveys nonetheless prove that "people" prefer wireless.they do.
People as individuals but we'd not want them in a teaching lab.labs are a very tiny segment of customers and a wired mouse or keyboard
I assume public ussage would also be a problem, too easy to slip in the pocket or bag.
can easily be unplugged anyway.
not having wires is a huge advantage, plus touch id on the latest keyboards is a game changer.
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you canthen you've never used one.
achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
Maybe the next 'vital' for a keyboard will be face ID, maybe DNA ID.whoosh.
Or as one of our research studetns is doing in that you don;t need a keyboardwhoosh*2.
or a mouse.
you do everything entirely buy gestures or a plate he has/is devising that you 3d print
and it uses finger/hand waving rather than actually typing.
On 30 May 2022 at 11:31:50 BST, "whisky-dave" <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
wrote:
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
There's "use touchID" for an immediate example.
Of course you can use your username+pass instead, but I found it worth
£150 to get a touchID keyb just to reduce the annoyance of that, because
I use proper 20+ character random scruff passwords.
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On the flip side, there's no reason there couldn't be a wired touchID
keyb, it's just that Apple don't make wired keyboards any more (although
as mentioned previously you can just hook up a Lightning cable
permanently if you wish).
One thing that would be useful is a touch bar keyboard. It would have to be wired due to the power drain of the touch bar (maybe it could have a
battery, but it would last of the order of a few days). You could then have function keys and a touch bar, which might be useful for certain controls in apps.
But, thanks to the flawed implementation on the MBPs, it seems like Apple have given up on the touch bar. And Jony would never let them make a wired keyboard anyway.
On the flip side, there's no reason there couldn't be a wired touchID
keyb, it's just that Apple don't make wired keyboards any more (although
as mentioned previously you can just hook up a Lightning cable
permanently if you wish).
On 30 May 2022 at 17:17:30 BST, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On the flip side, there's no reason there couldn't be a wired touchID
keyb, it's just that Apple don't make wired keyboards any more (although >>> as mentioned previously you can just hook up a Lightning cable
permanently if you wish).
One thing that would be useful is a touch bar keyboard. It would have to be >> wired due to the power drain of the touch bar (maybe it could have a
battery, but it would last of the order of a few days). You could then have >> function keys and a touch bar, which might be useful for certain controls in >> apps.
But, thanks to the flawed implementation on the MBPs, it seems like Apple
have given up on the touch bar. And Jony would never let them make a wired >> keyboard anyway.
Jony's gone, but the touch bar is also dead. They've not changed it in
about three years, and now no M-series laptop apart from the "still in
the Intel shell design" MBP13" has one.
Which is a shame, I like it more than physical Fkeys. But I use the
laptop in clam-closed mode mostly, so oh well.
On 30 May 2022 at 17:17:30 BST, "Theo"
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On the flip side, there's no reason there couldn't be a wired touchID
keyb, it's just that Apple don't make wired keyboards any more (although >>> as mentioned previously you can just hook up a Lightning cable
permanently if you wish).
One thing that would be useful is a touch bar keyboard. It would have to be >> wired due to the power drain of the touch bar (maybe it could have a
battery, but it would last of the order of a few days). You could then have >> function keys and a touch bar, which might be useful for certain controls in >> apps.
But, thanks to the flawed implementation on the MBPs, it seems like Apple
have given up on the touch bar. And Jony would never let them make a wired >> keyboard anyway.
Jony's gone, but the touch bar is also dead. They've not changed it in
about three years, and now no M-series laptop apart from the "still in
the Intel shell design" MBP13" has one.
Which is a shame, I like it more than physical Fkeys. But I use the
laptop in clam-closed mode mostly, so oh well.
The reason I always bought a wired KB is because I prefer having a numericyes they do.
keypad
which the wireless keyboards didn't have.
<https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71Yw0WfNfML._AC_SL1500_.jpg>
apple's first bluetooth keyboard from nearly 20 years ago had a numeric keypad:
took 4 AAs didn't it & no USB ports.
I did buy one later on, but the bloothooth died in my imac so the kb became pretty useless
so from then on I always opted for the 'free' keyboard and there was a choice for the compact wireless or the numeric key,
spo I've sort of got used to the larger keyboard.
How do you recharge a keyboard ?connect it to power. duh.
you mean not over USB you need yet another device ?
Idealy wireless charging but that's not great for a keyboard.
Nice to see Apple has listened and have such things on the front of the studio at last.
One 'pain' of my present iMacs is the SD card is at the back and all the USB ports too.
Just becausxe they are included in the price doesn't mean they are free.read it again, this time for comprehension.
Included in the iMac at no additional expence .
Still means you have to pay for them whether you want them or not.
Another glad to see with the studio but why didn;t they inclued them at no additional expense. ?
when the first iMac was realeased people wanted a floppy drive too but they didn't include that.
"But the great thing about Mac mini is you can hook it up to any industry-standard display, keyboard, and mouse," he continued. "A lot
of people already have a display and a USB keyboard and mouse, and
so Mac mini will hook up to [those]."
you can do the same with any computer not just a mini.
The problem origianlly was that aplpe went with their own connectors
which weren;t compatable with the PCs of the time DB-9-15-25 neither keyboards or mice,
so even when buying a Mac II style you still needed to by an Apple kb and mice
The Macpluses and even Mac II and LCs had the opotion to buy torx secirity screws which we did.
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.then you've never used one.
No, so what extra magic things can you do with them.
I can pay bills log on to just about anything using a kb & M.
So what extra things can be done with touch ID maybe there's some porn site I need to know about.
Maybe the next 'vital' for a keyboard will be face ID, maybe DNA ID.whoosh.
So you don't think face ID is needed for a computer ?
Then why have it on a phone ?
Will it give me next weeks lottery numbers ?
Will it improve the quality from my camera.
If touch ID is so great why not use it to open car doors,
and why has Aplpe and others brought out face ID.
But if touch ID is so fantastic why have Apple and others gone to facial ID. ?
On 30 May 2022 at 11:31:50 BST, "whisky-dave" <whisk...@gmail.com>
wrote:
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieveThere's "use touchID" for an immediate example.
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
Of course you can use your username+pass instead, but I found it worth
£150 to get a touchID keyb just to reduce the annoyance of that, because
I use proper 20+ character random scruff passwords.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"Please stop telling us what you feel. Please stop telling us
what your intuition is. Your intuitive feelings are of no
interest whatsoever, and nor are mine. I don't give a bugger
what you feel, or what I feel. I want to know what the evidence shows." -- Richard Dawkins
In article <8ce96e1d-61c2-4a73...@googlegroups.com>,
whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
The reason I always bought a wired KB is because I prefer having a numericyes they do.
keypad
which the wireless keyboards didn't have.
<https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71Yw0WfNfML._AC_SL1500_.jpg>
apple's first bluetooth keyboard from nearly 20 years ago had a numeric keypad:
took 4 AAs didn't it & no USB ports.yep, 4 aa batteries, and being bluetooth, it didn't need usb ports.
<https://content.instructables.com/ORIG/FK8/WGYQ/GERP8XIS/FK8WGYQGERP8XI S.jpg>
I did buy one later on, but the bloothooth died in my imac so the kb becamethat's one reason to get a bluetooth dongle.
pretty useless
obscure trivia: that keyboard is the *only* bluetooth keyboard that
*cannot* pair with an ios device, which is rather amusing given that
it's an apple keyboard and not some noname third party junk.
you'd think that apple would want their own apple bluetooth keyboard to
pair with an apple iphone and ipad.
apple's other bluetooth keyboards pair without issue.
so from then on I always opted for the 'free' keyboard and there was a choicenot everyone wants a larger keyboard.
for the compact wireless or the numeric key,
spo I've sort of got used to the larger keyboard.
How do you recharge a keyboard ?connect it to power. duh.
you mean not over USB you need yet another device ?apple's bluetooth keyboards, mice and trackpads recharge via lightning,
as do numerous other apple devices.
third party bluetooth keyboards and mice usually recharge by micro-usb, although there may be some newer ones that use usb-c.
the port is for *power*, not connectivity (although in some cases it
can be used for data transfer, such as in an iphone).
Idealy wireless charging but that's not great for a keyboard.there are third party wireless charging options for the apple mouse.
Nice to see Apple has listened and have such things on the front of the studio at last.true, but they hit it with an ugly stick in the process.
One 'pain' of my present iMacs is the SD card is at the back and all the USBget a hub and a card reader, plus a card reader is likely faster than
ports too.
what's in the imac.
Just becausxe they are included in the price doesn't mean they are free.read it again, this time for comprehension.
Included in the iMac at no additional expence .the imac includes a display for no additional expense.
Still means you have to pay for them whether you want them or not.
it also includes a power cord at no additional expense.
the intent is so that it works out of the box without the need to buy
any additional parts. that's a feature.
Another glad to see with the studio but why didn;t they inclued them at no additional expense. ?because it's a different demographic. the typical buyer of a mini or
studio already has the other parts, or plans to get new ones that are
higher quality (e.g., 5k display to replace their 1080p or vga
display).
when the first iMac was realeased people wanted a floppy drive too but theyno they didn't.
didn't include that.
the imac didn't include a floppy drive because floppies were obsolete.
they were too small to hold much of anything and the industry was
already moving away from floppies.
in 1998, the year the first imac was released, one of the only two
floppy manufacturers shut down due to insufficient demand.
the few people who did want a floppy could buy a third party drive, but relatively few did so.
"But the great thing about Mac mini is you can hook it up to any industry-standard display, keyboard, and mouse," he continued. "A lot
of people already have a display and a USB keyboard and mouse, and
so Mac mini will hook up to [those]."
you can do the same with any computer not just a mini.nope. the original mac mini used industry standard usb and dvi, with a
The problem origianlly was that aplpe went with their own connectors
which weren;t compatable with the PCs of the time DB-9-15-25 neither keyboards or mice,
vga adapter for those who still had a 1990s era vga display and too
cheap to upgrade it.
so even when buying a Mac II style you still needed to by an Apple kb and micenope. there were numerous third party adb keyboards and mice.
The Macpluses and even Mac II and LCs had the opotion to buy torx secirity screws which we did.not for the keyboard and mouse, they didn't.
it's very difficult to use a mouse that is screwed onto a table.
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.then you've never used one.
No, so what extra magic things can you do with them.apple pay and not needing to type in long passcodes.
I can pay bills log on to just about anything using a kb & M.not as easily, and no apple pay.
So what extra things can be done with touch ID maybe there's some porn sitedon't you already have accounts on all of them?
I need to know about.
Maybe the next 'vital' for a keyboard will be face ID, maybe DNA ID.whoosh.
So you don't think face ID is needed for a computer ?nope. it would require an apple display with face id hardware, which is
a lot more expensive than a keyboard and would restrict it to only
apple displays.
it also is not an explicit action, which can potentially be a huge
problem, in particular, authenticating admin privileges or a
transaction.
Then why have it on a phone ?entirely different use case.
On 30 May 2022 at 11:31:50 BST, "whisky-dave" <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
wrote:
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
There's "use touchID" for an immediate example.
Of course you can use your username+pass instead, but I found it worth
£150 to get a touchID keyb just to reduce the annoyance of that, because
I use proper 20+ character random scruff passwords.
<https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71Yw0WfNfML._AC_SL1500_.jpg>
apple's first bluetooth keyboard from nearly 20 years ago had a numeric keypad:
took 4 AAs didn't it & no USB ports.yep, 4 aa batteries, and being bluetooth, it didn't need usb ports.
Couldn't use rechargables batteries either,
but I didn't like the feel of or
the clatter of the keys,
so went back to using the G4 tower keyboard, which I'm still using with my mac mini.
How do you recharge a keyboard ?connect it to power. duh.
you mean not over USB you need yet another device ?apple's bluetooth keyboards, mice and trackpads recharge via lightning,
as do numerous other apple devices.
Yes lightning think they should stick to USB even USB C like they have with the studio.
third party bluetooth keyboards and mice usually recharge by micro-usb, although there may be some newer ones that use usb-c.
the port is for *power*, not connectivity (although in some cases it
can be used for data transfer, such as in an iphone).
would be strange to have such a restrictive port.
Idealy wireless charging but that's not great for a keyboard.there are third party wireless charging options for the apple mouse.
would be nice to be able to put it and/or the keyboard on top or by the side of the computer to charge it.
One 'pain' of my present iMacs is the SD card is at the back and all the USB ports too.get a hub and a card reader, plus a card reader is likely faster than what's in the imac.
Great idea get bluetooth kb & m to cut down on ugly cables then get a card reader with a cable.
when the first iMac was realeased people wanted a floppy drive too but theyno they didn't.
didn't include that.
the imac didn't include a floppy drive because floppies were obsolete.
floppies were still widely used by most people which is why componies sold USB floppy drives
and the discs.
they were too small to hold much of anything and the industry was
already moving away from floppies.
in 1998, the year the first imac was released, one of the only two
floppy manufacturers shut down due to insufficient demand.
But that didn;t stop them being used.
Not everyone dumped floppies because Apple didn't include a floppy drive.
I think the USA force were still using 8 inch floppies up until 2012.
Think it was something to do with nuclear silos in the USA.
Some documentry on UK TV.
you can do the same with any computer not just a mini.nope. the original mac mini used industry standard usb and dvi, with a
The problem origianlly was that aplpe went with their own connectors which weren;t compatable with the PCs of the time DB-9-15-25 neither keyboards or mice,
vga adapter for those who still had a 1990s era vga display and too
cheap to upgrade it.
that was in 2005.
it's very difficult to use a mouse that is screwed onto a table.
Not to the table.
the DB connector screwed to the back of the Mac.
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.then you've never used one.
No, so what extra magic things can you do with them.apple pay and not needing to type in long passcodes.
Do you need to use touch ID for Apple pay.
Never used it myself I still use a debitcard.
So what extra things can be done with touch ID maybe there's some porn sitedon't you already have accounts on all of them?
I need to know about.
Nah don't need them.
My average screen time over tha past few days on my phone is 20mins per day. Most of which is checking bus times timer/stopwatch/alarm
Even a nightclub I go to asks for photo ID not face ID or touch ID.
On 30/05/2022 14:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 30 May 2022 at 11:31:50 BST, "whisky-dave" <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
wrote:
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
There's "use touchID" for an immediate example.
Of course you can use your username+pass instead, but I found it worth
£150 to get a touchID keyb just to reduce the annoyance of that, because
I use proper 20+ character random scruff passwords.
If you use ssh, you can even generate your ssh key inside the secure
enclave and use Touch ID to authenticate with it. It works pretty
nicely, though only allows ecdsa keys. (An Apple limitation.)
https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive
On 31 May 2022 at 19:44:50 BST, "Chris Ridd" <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:
On 30/05/2022 14:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 30 May 2022 at 11:31:50 BST, "whisky-dave" <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
wrote:
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
There's "use touchID" for an immediate example.
Of course you can use your username+pass instead, but I found it worth
£150 to get a touchID keyb just to reduce the annoyance of that, because >>> I use proper 20+ character random scruff passwords.
If you use ssh, you can even generate your ssh key inside the secure
enclave and use Touch ID to authenticate with it. It works pretty
nicely, though only allows ecdsa keys. (An Apple limitation.)
https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive
Oh that's swish! Thanks :)
On 30/05/2022 14:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 30 May 2022 at 11:31:50 BST, "whisky-dave" <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
wrote:
think that's a bit of an exaggeration I can't think of anything extra you can achieve
on a keyboard with touch ID that's you couldn't previously do.
There's "use touchID" for an immediate example.
Of course you can use your username+pass instead, but I found it worth
£150 to get a touchID keyb just to reduce the annoyance of that, because
I use proper 20+ character random scruff passwords.
If you use ssh, you can even generate your ssh key inside the secure
enclave and use Touch ID to authenticate with it. It works pretty
nicely, though only allows ecdsa keys. (An Apple limitation.)
https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive
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