Anyone going to watch this?
Im not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment,
so Im not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in
Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS
13.
the mac pro will be expensive, but it will also be interesting to see
just how much performance it has over a mac studio, which is already
quite good.
In article <t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>, Alan
B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Anyone going to watch this?
yes.
I¹m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment,
the updates to mac os, ios, etc. will be free.
the mac pro will be expensive, but it will also be interesting to see
just how much performance it has over a mac studio, which is already
quite good.
so I¹m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in
Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS
13.
so were some of the cat names, especially with the pairs: leopard/snow leopard, lion/mountain lion, sierra/high sierra, and who can forget 'jag-you-are'.
so I1m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in
Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS
13.
so were some of the cat names, especially with the pairs: leopard/snow leopard, lion/mountain lion, sierra/high sierra, and who can forget 'jag-you-are'.
Moth and mammoth? Mammoth and behemoth? Not sure the new name works so
well. :-)
Moth and mammoth? Mammoth and behemoth? Not sure the new name works so
well. :-)
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in >> Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS
13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS
13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote (in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new
expensive h/w or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting
excited! Mammoth (as in Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to
be the name given to macOS 13.
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Yeah but they’re as extinct as the mammoth ;)
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber-toothed_predator>
I like the name Smilodon though. Maybe it grinned before it devours its
prey?
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in >>>> Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS
13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Yeah but they’re as extinct as the mammoth ;)
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber-toothed_predator>
I like the name Smilodon though. Maybe it grinned before it devours its
prey?
Well it’s Ventura not Mammoth :)
<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/06/apple-introduces-macos-ventura/>
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in >>> Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS
13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Yeah but they’re as extinct as the mammoth ;)
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber-toothed_predator>
I like the name Smilodon though. Maybe it grinned before it devours its
prey?
Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2022-06-06 18:22:31 +0000, Alan B
<alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> said:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in
Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS >>>>>> 13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Yeah but they’re as extinct as the mammoth ;)
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber-toothed_predator>
I like the name Smilodon though. Maybe it grinned before it devours its >>>> prey?
Well it’s Ventura not Mammoth :)
<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/06/apple-introduces-macos-ventura/>
So is that the end of split Screen on iPadOS (fingers crossed!!)
Shirt answer - don’t know. At the moment I’m more concerned about Ventura’s compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be OK but awaiting official specs to go live.
On 2022-06-06 18:22:31 +0000, Alan B
<alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> said:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in
Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS >>>>> 13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Yeah but they’re as extinct as the mammoth ;)
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber-toothed_predator>
I like the name Smilodon though. Maybe it grinned before it devours its
prey?
Well it’s Ventura not Mammoth :)
<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/06/apple-introduces-macos-ventura/>
So is that the end of split Screen on iPadOS (fingers crossed!!)
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in >>>> Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS
13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Yeah but they’re as extinct as the mammoth ;)
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber-toothed_predator>
I like the name Smilodon though. Maybe it grinned before it devours its
prey?
Well it’s Ventura not Mammoth :)
<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/06/apple-introduces-macos-ventura/>
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in
Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS >>>>> 13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Yeah but they’re as extinct as the mammoth ;)
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber-toothed_predator>
I like the name Smilodon though. Maybe it grinned before it devours its
prey?
Well it’s Ventura not Mammoth :)
<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/06/apple-introduces-macos-ventura/>
Ace!
At the moment Im more concerned about
Venturas compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be OK but awaiting official specs to go live.
Bah humbug :( In the words of Ken Bruce one year out
<https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/>
At the moment Im more concerned about
Venturas compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be OK but awaiting official specs to go live.
Bah humbug :( In the words of Ken Bruce one year out
<https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/>
what's really funny is that the mac studio is not listed, a mac that
was announced just three months ago.
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 31 May 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t75rau$1vu$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
Anyone going to watch this? I’m not in the market for any new expensive h/w
or s/w at the moment, so I’m not exactly getting excited! Mammoth (as in
Mammoth Lake, California) seems odds-on to be the name given to macOS >>>>>> 13.
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-launches-wwdc-2022-live-stream-on-
youtube-in-preparation-for-june-6-keynote.2346329/>
Bah, humbug. Bring back the cats! We want macOS Sabre Tooth!
Yeah but they’re as extinct as the mammoth ;)
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber-toothed_predator>
I like the name Smilodon though. Maybe it grinned before it devours its >>>> prey?
Well it’s Ventura not Mammoth :)
<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/06/apple-introduces-macos-ventura/>
Ace!
I immediately thought of the highway!
<https://youtu.be/ujsOx33f4mk>
[showing my age now]
It’s not all doom and gloom for those with Macs that miss out on Venture as Monterey should still be officially supported by Apple for a couple of more years.
In article <060620222003053831%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
At the moment I¹m more concerned about
Ventura¹s compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be OK but >>>> awaiting official specs to go live.
Bah humbug :( In the words of Ken Bruce ³one year out²
<https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/>
what's really funny is that the mac studio is not listed, a mac that
was announced just three months ago.
and it's now listed as supported. good thing i grabbed a screenshot.
Well it’s Ventura not Mammoth :)
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <060620222003053831%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
At the moment I¹m more concerned about
Ventura¹s compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be OK but >>>>> awaiting official specs to go live.
Bah humbug :( In the words of Ken Bruce ³one year out²
<https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/>
what's really funny is that the mac studio is not listed, a mac that
was announced just three months ago.
and it's now listed as supported. good thing i grabbed a screenshot.
I should think so too!
It’s not all doom and gloom for those with Macs that miss out on Venture as Monterey should still be officially supported by Apple for a couple of more years.
So is that the end of split Screen on iPadOS (fingers crossed!!)
Intel iMacs seem to be clinging on to most of the features - just some emoji support missing over an M1 from what I can see.
On 6 Jun 2022, Mark wrote
(in article <t7lia5$18ci$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
So is that the end of split Screen on iPadOS (fingers crossed!!)
This is the thing I’m most interested in out of the whole presentation. If the iPad gains proper floating window support, it likely becomes a viable machine for me. Right now it’s simply not - doesn’t come close to matching how I work. Nothing wrong with the machines, just...not for me.
Floating window support starts bringing it closer. From what I can see though it’s not -true- floating window but some sort of weird ‘arrangement’ view, where something has to be pushed to the back. I couldn’t, for example, put a Citrix window at the left, a messages window at the top right and a WhatsApp window bottom right (before you say ’split view’ -
On 7 Jun 2022 at 12:38:08 BST, "Ian McCall" <ian@eruvia.org> wrote:
On 6 Jun 2022, Mark wrote
(in article <t7lia5$18ci$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
So is that the end of split Screen on iPadOS (fingers crossed!!)
This is the thing I’m most interested in out of the whole presentation. If >> the iPad gains proper floating window support, it likely becomes a viable
machine for me. Right now it’s simply not - doesn’t come close to
matching how I work. Nothing wrong with the machines, just...not for me.
Floating window support starts bringing it closer. From what I can see though
it’s not -true- floating window but some sort of weird ‘arrangement’ >> view, where something has to be pushed to the back. I couldn’t, for
example, put a Citrix window at the left, a messages window at the top right >> and a WhatsApp window bottom right (before you say ’split view’ -
Yeah, it'll be interesting to try. Split view worked for that, it was
just so horribly unpredictable and uncontrollable. I never managed to
work out the floating-window <-> split view transition process.
On the beta for 13 now; it's done two things notable:
1) Notified that something has added itself to one of the startup
locations (login items/launch agent/launch daemon) and clicking takes
you to the control panel for that stuff
2) Took about 15 hours to reindex my Photos sufficiently that the search
bar there found *anything*. I'd logged it as a bug long before it
completed.
Cheers - Jaimie
On the beta for 13 now; it's done two things notable:
1) Notified that something has added itself to one of the startup
locations (login items/launch agent/launch daemon) and clicking takes
you to the control panel for that stuff
2) Took about 15 hours to reindex my Photos sufficiently that the search
bar there found *anything*. I'd logged it as a bug long before it
completed.
On 7 Jun 2022 at 12:38:08 BST, "Ian McCall" <ian@eruvia.org> wrote:
On 6 Jun 2022, Mark wrote
(in article <t7lia5$18ci$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
So is that the end of split Screen on iPadOS (fingers crossed!!)
This is the thing I’m most interested in out of the whole presentation. If >> the iPad gains proper floating window support, it likely becomes a viable
machine for me. Right now it’s simply not - doesn’t come close to
matching how I work. Nothing wrong with the machines, just...not for me.
Floating window support starts bringing it closer. From what I can see though
it’s not -true- floating window but some sort of weird ‘arrangement’ >> view, where something has to be pushed to the back. I couldn’t, for
example, put a Citrix window at the left, a messages window at the top right >> and a WhatsApp window bottom right (before you say ’split view’ -
Yeah, it'll be interesting to try. Split view worked for that, it was
just so horribly unpredictable and uncontrollable. I never managed to
work out the floating-window <-> split view transition process.
On the beta for 13 now; it's done two things notable:
1) Notified that something has added itself to one of the startup
locations (login items/launch agent/launch daemon) and clicking takes
you to the control panel for that stuff
2) Took about 15 hours to reindex my Photos sufficiently that the search
bar there found *anything*. I'd logged it as a bug long before it
completed.
I quite like the new System Prefs in iOS style, except it's a bit uncomfortable at the fixed width they have chosen. Demotion of
Apple/About This Mac to a crappy modern-notifications panel is ugly - it takes you over to the General panel in Sys Prefs if you go for More
Info, which isn't very pretty either.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article<060620222003053831%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
At the moment I¹m more concerned about
Ventura¹s compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be OK but
awaiting official specs to go live.
Bah humbug :( In the words of Ken Bruce ³one year out²
<https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/>
what's really funny is that the mac studio is not listed, a mac that
was announced just three months ago.
and it's now listed as supported. good thing i grabbed a screenshot.
I should think so too!
It’s not all doom and gloom for those with Macs that miss out on Venture as Monterey should still be officially supported by Apple for a couple of more years.
On 07 Jun 2022, Alan B wrote
It’s not all doom and gloom for those with Macs that miss out on Venture as
Monterey should still be officially supported by Apple for a couple of more >> years.
Some of us are still on Catalina...
On 7 Jun 2022 at 15:48:32 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
1) Notified that something has added itself to one of the startup
locations (login items/launch agent/launch daemon) and clicking takes
you to the control panel for that stuff
2) Took about 15 hours to reindex my Photos sufficiently that the search
bar there found *anything*. I'd logged it as a bug long before it
completed.
Three things.
3) For non-obvious reasons DNS requests were slow for the first day.
Started super slow, got quicker until next morning they were normal
again. Affected nslookup as well; I disabled and enabled the Apple
network privacy settings; Firefox's "dns over https" didn't improve it either. I didn't go as far as packet-sniffing.
I quite like the new System Prefs in iOS style, except it's a bit uncomfortable at the fixed width they have chosen. Demotion of
Apple/About This Mac to a crappy modern-notifications panel is ugly - it takes you over to the General panel in Sys Prefs if you go for More
Info, which isn't very pretty either.
On 07 Jun 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t7ms1q$1e0$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article<060620222003053831%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
At the moment I¹m more concerned about
Ventura¹s compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be OK but
awaiting official specs to go live.
Bah humbug :( In the words of Ken Bruce ³one year out²
<https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/>
what's really funny is that the mac studio is not listed, a mac that
was announced just three months ago.
and it's now listed as supported. good thing i grabbed a screenshot.
I should think so too!
It’s not all doom and gloom for those with Macs that miss out on Venture as
Monterey should still be officially supported by Apple for a couple of more >> years.
Some of us are still on Catalina...
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 07 Jun 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t7ms1q$1e0$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article<060620222003053831%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
At the moment I?m more concerned about
Ventura?s compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be >>>>>> OK but awaiting official specs to go live.
Bah humbug :( In the words of Ken Bruce ?one year out?
<https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/>
what's really funny is that the mac studio is not listed, a mac that >>>> was announced just three months ago.
and it's now listed as supported. good thing i grabbed a screenshot.
I should think so too!
It's not all doom and gloom for those with Macs that miss out on
Venture as Monterey should still be officially supported by Apple for a
couple of more years.
Some of us are still on Catalina...
I'm temporarily on Snow Leopard.
R <me32@privacy.net> wrote:
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 07 Jun 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<t7ms1q$1e0$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article<060620222003053831%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
At the moment I?m more concerned about
Ventura?s compatibility with my Intel machine. I think it will be >>>>>>>> OK but awaiting official specs to go live.
Bah humbug :( In the words of Ken Bruce ?one year out?
<https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/>
what's really funny is that the mac studio is not listed, a mac that >>>>>> was announced just three months ago.
and it's now listed as supported. good thing i grabbed a screenshot.
I should think so too!
It's not all doom and gloom for those with Macs that miss out on
Venture as Monterey should still be officially supported by Apple for a >>>> couple of more years.
Some of us are still on Catalina...
I'm temporarily on Snow Leopard.
Nothing wrong with Snow Leopard.
(but don't try web browsing)
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