• Protecting against malware in macOS

    From David Brooks@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 3 10:00:34 2022
    Protecting against malware in macOS (updated May 13 2022)

    https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/security/sec469d47bd8/web

    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on
    their Apple devices? If so, why?

    --
    David

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Fri Jun 3 22:10:22 2022
    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on
    their Apple devices? If so, why?

    Why do you want to know? Looking for new companies to stalk? Do you feel
    the need to be banned from even more company-sponsored software support
    forums?

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sat Jun 4 08:42:56 2022
    On 04/06/2022 04:10, Bob Campbell wrote:
    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on
    their Apple devices? If so, why?

    Why do you want to know? Looking for new companies to stalk? Do you feel the need to be banned from even more company-sponsored software support forums?

    Don’t be put off by its title: Apple Platform Security Guide is
    mandatory reading for all advanced Mac Users, and the only way we get to
    learn about important details of macOS, iCloud, and much else.

    https://mjtsai.com/blog/2022/05/16/apple-platform-security-guide-may-2022/

    HTH

    --
    David

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sat Jun 4 09:43:14 2022
    On 04/06/2022 04:10, Bob Campbell wrote:
    Why do you want to know?

    This man refuses to communicate with me, even though I once purchased
    his software.

    https://www.mymac.com/2016/06/mymac-com-spotlight-mark-allan/

    I think it's a scam. What do other folk think?

    --
    David

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  • From Wolffan@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sat Jun 4 09:14:22 2022
    On 03 Jun 2022, Bob Campbell wrote
    (in article<WomdnfEDvKmDUAf_nZ2dnUU7-f3NnZ2d@supernews.com>):

    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on
    their Apple devices? If so, why?

    Why do you want to know? Looking for new companies to stalk? Do you feel
    the need to be banned from even more company-sponsored software support forums?

    He’s an idiot.

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Wolffan on Sat Jun 4 21:22:13 2022
    Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On 03 Jun 2022, Bob Campbell wrote
    (in article<WomdnfEDvKmDUAf_nZ2dnUU7-f3NnZ2d@supernews.com>):

    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on
    their Apple devices? If so, why?

    Why do you want to know? Looking for new companies to stalk? Do you feel
    the need to be banned from even more company-sponsored software support
    forums?

    He’s an idiot.

    Well of course. And he is still irrationally obsessed with Mac AV
    software.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Campbell on Sat Jun 4 23:33:11 2022
    In article <ifCdnSGz2LfIjgH_nZ2dnUU7-dfNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
    Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:


    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on
    their Apple devices? If so, why?

    Why do you want to know? Looking for new companies to stalk? Do you feel >> the need to be banned from even more company-sponsored software support
    forums?

    He¹s an idiot.

    Well of course.

    if he were an idiot, it would be a vast improvement from what he is now.

    And he is still irrationally obsessed with Mac AV
    software.

    that part is true.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Jun 5 14:33:47 2022
    On 05/06/2022 04:33, nospam wrote:
    In article <ifCdnSGz2LfIjgH_nZ2dnUU7-dfNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
    Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:


    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on
    their Apple devices? If so, why?

    Why do you want to know? Looking for new companies to stalk? Do you feel >>>> the need to be banned from even more company-sponsored software support >>>> forums?

    He¹s an idiot.

    Well of course.

    if he were an idiot, it would be a vast improvement from what he is now.

    I'm old. I cannot change that.

    And he is still irrationally obsessed with Mac AV
    software.

    that part is true.

    No, that is NOT true!

    My concern is that when folk visit www.clamxav.com they are presented
    with the *free trial* of a product which MAY be putting malware ON to
    their computer. There's no way that they will ever know that their Apple computer may have been compromised.

    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will
    not talk to me.

    I'm not the only one to think as I do! https://imgur.com/gallery/YY1Vmwa

    If I'm mistaken, please demonstrate that ClamXav is not a scam.

    --
    David

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to DGB@nomail.afraid.org on Sun Jun 5 09:55:19 2022
    In article <%g2nK.141192$b21.46914@fx11.ams1>, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on >>>>> their Apple devices? If so, why?

    Why do you want to know? Looking for new companies to stalk? Do you feel >>>> the need to be banned from even more company-sponsored software support >>>> forums?

    He1s an idiot.

    Well of course.

    if he were an idiot, it would be a vast improvement from what he is now.

    I'm old. I cannot change that.

    at least you admit you're dumber than an idiot, and it's not due to age.

    And he is still irrationally obsessed with Mac AV
    software.

    that part is true.

    No, that is NOT true!

    it is true.

    My concern is that when folk visit www.clamxav.com they are presented
    with the *free trial* of a product which MAY be putting malware ON to
    their computer. There's no way that they will ever know that their Apple computer may have been compromised.

    and there's the proof.

    what about the free trials of everything else in this world?

    why is it only one particular anti-malware app, and how has it gone
    undetected for so long?

    those who aren't stupid can figure this stuff out.

    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will
    not talk to me.

    maybe it's because you harassed and attacked him, his family his
    company and his products.

    you're lucky he has not taken legal action.

    unfortunately, the rest of the world is not so lucky and wishes that he
    had. keep it up and maybe one day it will happen.

    I'm not the only one to think as I do! https://imgur.com/gallery/YY1Vmwa

    If I'm mistaken, please demonstrate that ClamXav is not a scam.

    mistaken implies a level of knowledge you do not have, and by your own admission too.

    put simply, you're so stupid you actually believe such rubbish.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Jun 5 16:24:40 2022
    On 05/06/2022 14:55, nospam wrote:
    In article <%g2nK.141192$b21.46914@fx11.ams1>, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Does anyone reading here use a third-party anti-malware software on >>>>>>> their Apple devices? If so, why?

    Why do you want to know? Looking for new companies to stalk? Do you feel >>>>>> the need to be banned from even more company-sponsored software support >>>>>> forums?

    He1s an idiot.

    Well of course.

    if he were an idiot, it would be a vast improvement from what he is now.

    I'm old. I cannot change that.

    at least you admit you're dumber than an idiot, and it's not due to age.

    And he is still irrationally obsessed with Mac AV
    software.

    that part is true.

    No, that is NOT true!

    it is true.

    My concern is that when folk visit www.clamxav.com they are presented
    with the *free trial* of a product which MAY be putting malware ON to
    their computer. There's no way that they will ever know that their Apple
    computer may have been compromised.

    and there's the proof.

    what about the free trials of everything else in this world?

    They, too, are tempting.

    why is it only one particular anti-malware app, and how has it gone undetected for so long?

    those who aren't stupid can figure this stuff out.

    I understand that some employers demand that their staff use anti-
    malware software on their Apple computers. Totally unnecessary?

    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will
    not talk to me.

    maybe it's because you harassed and attacked him, his family his
    company and his products.

    Do you have any EVIDENCE of your claim?

    you're lucky he has not taken legal action.

    unfortunately, the rest of the world is not so lucky and wishes that he
    had. keep it up and maybe one day it will happen.

    I'm not the only one to think as I do! https://imgur.com/gallery/YY1Vmwa

    If I'm mistaken, please demonstrate that ClamXav is not a scam.

    mistaken implies a level of knowledge you do not have, and by your own admission too.

    put simply, you're so stupid you actually believe such rubbish.

    What is the likelihood of a brand new iMac having been compromised in China?

    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-is-the-likelihood-of-a-brand-new-imac-having-been-compromised-in-china.2345760/

    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    Odd.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to DGB@nomail.afraid.org on Sun Jun 5 12:16:30 2022
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will
    not talk to me.

    maybe it's because you harassed and attacked him, his family his
    company and his products.

    Do you have any EVIDENCE of your claim?

    yes. your posts.





    put simply, you're so stupid you actually believe such rubbish.

    What is the likelihood of a brand new iMac having been compromised in China?

    zero.

    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-is-the-likelihood-of-a-brand-new-imac-having-been-compromised-in-china.2345760/

    did you even read that thread? several people explain why such a claim
    is bullshit.

    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Odd.

    that's one word to describe you.

    however, it's not the first word that comes to mind.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Jun 5 19:39:44 2022
    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will >>>> not talk to me.

    maybe it's because you harassed and attacked him, his family his
    company and his products.

    Do you have any EVIDENCE of your claim?

    yes. your posts.

    <sigh> You have no evidence. :-(

    put simply, you're so stupid you actually believe such rubbish.

    What is the likelihood of a brand new iMac having been compromised in China?

    zero.

    False

    Read here:- https://www.mac-forums.com/threads/how-did-3rd-party-apps-not-available-on-the-apple-store-get-on-my-brand-new-2021-mac.369271/m

    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-is-the-likelihood-of-a-brand-new-imac-having-been-compromised-in-china.2345760/

    did you even read that thread? several people explain why such a claim
    is bullshit.

    Yes. I /started/ the thread! (Brawdy14 was my call-sign when I did my
    advanced flying training in a single-seat Hawker Hunter GA11)

    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    You start a thread about it there to prove what you say. We'll take it
    from there.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Why lie? Here's the URL showing the hyphen:- https://www.mac-forums.com

    Odd.

    that's one word to describe you.
    however, it's not the first word that comes to mind.

    I'm blessed. 😇

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Jun 6 10:45:14 2022
    On 05/06/2022 19:39, David Brooks wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will >>>>> not talk to me.

    maybe it's because you harassed and attacked him, his family his
    company and his products.

    Do you have any EVIDENCE of your claim?

    yes. your posts.

    <sigh> You have no evidence. :-(

    put simply, you're so stupid you actually believe such rubbish.

    What is the likelihood of a brand new iMac having been compromised in
    China?

    zero.

    False

    Read here:- https://www.mac-forums.com/threads/how-did-3rd-party-apps-not-available-on-the-apple-store-get-on-my-brand-new-2021-mac.369271/

    THIS link should 'work!

    https://www.mac-forums.com/threads/how-did-3rd-party-apps-not-available-on-the-apple-store-get-on-my-brand-new-2021-mac.369271/

    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-is-the-likelihood-of-a-brand-new-imac-having-been-compromised-in-china.2345760/


    did you even read that thread? several people explain why such a claim
    is bullshit.

    Yes. I /started/ the thread! (Brawdy14 was my call-sign when I did my advanced flying training in a single-seat Hawker Hunter GA11)

    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    You start a thread about it there to prove what you say. We'll take it
    from there.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Why lie?  Here's the URL showing the hyphen:- https://www.mac-forums.com

    Odd.

    that's one word to describe you.
    however, it's not the first word that comes to mind.

    I'm blessed. 😇


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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to nospam on Mon Jun 6 13:06:42 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

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  • From whisky-dave@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Jun 6 06:00:11 2022
    On Sunday, 5 June 2022 at 19:39:46 UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01....@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks <D...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will >>>> not talk to me.

    maybe it's because you harassed and attacked him, his family his
    company and his products.

    Do you have any EVIDENCE of your claim?

    yes. your posts.
    <sigh> You have no evidence. :-(
    put simply, you're so stupid you actually believe such rubbish.

    What is the likelihood of a brand new iMac having been compromised in China?

    zero.
    False

    Read here:- https://www.mac-forums.com/threads/how-did-3rd-party-apps-not-available-on-the-apple-store-get-on-my-brand-new-2021-mac.369271/m
    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-is-the-likelihood-of-a-brand-new-imac-having-been-compromised-in-china.2345760/

    did you even read that thread? several people explain why such a claim
    is bullshit.
    Yes. I /started/ the thread! (Brawdy14 was my call-sign when I did my advanced flying training in a single-seat Hawker Hunter GA11)
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.
    You start a thread about it there to prove what you say. We'll take it
    from there.

    Seems an odd way of going about things.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.
    Why lie? Here's the URL showing the hyphen:- https://www.mac-forums.com

    that's the wrong site, he was refering about macrumours.

    Odd.

    that's one word to describe you.
    however, it's not the first word that comes to mind.
    I'm blessed. 😇

    I'm guessing that's what the priests tell their chior boys after polishing their bums with their home made brasso
    to make their botties shine. ;-)

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to whisky-dave on Mon Jun 6 15:00:33 2022
    On 06/06/2022 14:00, whisky-dave wrote:
    On Sunday, 5 June 2022 at 19:39:46 UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01....@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <D...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will >>>>>> not talk to me.

    maybe it's because you harassed and attacked him, his family his
    company and his products.

    Do you have any EVIDENCE of your claim?

    yes. your posts.
    <sigh> You have no evidence. :-(
    put simply, you're so stupid you actually believe such rubbish.

    What is the likelihood of a brand new iMac having been compromised in China?

    zero.
    False

    Read here:-
    https://www.mac-forums.com/threads/how-did-3rd-party-apps-not-available-on-the-apple-store-get-on-my-brand-new-2021-mac.369271/m
    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-is-the-likelihood-of-a-brand-new-imac-having-been-compromised-in-china.2345760/

    did you even read that thread? several people explain why such a claim
    is bullshit.
    Yes. I /started/ the thread! (Brawdy14 was my call-sign when I did my
    advanced flying training in a single-seat Hawker Hunter GA11)
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.
    You start a thread about it there to prove what you say. We'll take it
    from there.

    Seems an odd way of going about things.

    Just different!

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.
    Why lie? Here's the URL showing the hyphen:- https://www.mac-forums.com

    that's the wrong site, he was refering about macrumours.

    Good Golly, Miss Molly - you are RIGHT!

    This is the correct item:- https://imgur.com/gallery/XNVoDCR

    My apology to all for my misteak! ;-)

    Odd.

    that's one word to describe you.
    however, it's not the first word that comes to mind.
    I'm blessed. 😇

    <rude comment snipped>!

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to DGB@nomail.afraid.org on Mon Jun 6 09:26:23 2022
    In article <QL6nK.323523$e21.78798@fx10.ams1>, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    I've tried to discuss this with the developer, Mark Allan, but he will >>>> not talk to me.

    maybe it's because you harassed and attacked him, his family his
    company and his products.

    Do you have any EVIDENCE of your claim?

    yes. your posts.

    <sigh> You have no evidence. :-(

    i do, as does everyone who has read your posts, where you admitted
    doing so.

    put simply, you're so stupid you actually believe such rubbish.

    What is the likelihood of a brand new iMac having been compromised in
    China?

    zero.

    False

    not false.

    Read here:-

    https://www.mac-forums.com/threads/how-did-3rd-party-apps-not-available-on-the-
    apple-store-get-on-my-brand-new-2021-mac.369271/m

    meaningless (and i saw the fixed link).

    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-is-the-likelihood-of-a-brand-new-
    imac-having-been-compromised-in-china.2345760/

    did you even read that thread? several people explain why such a claim
    is bullshit.

    Yes. I /started/ the thread! (Brawdy14 was my call-sign when I did my advanced flying training in a single-seat Hawker Hunter GA11)

    i didn't ask who started it. i asked did you read it.

    why are you ignoring the multiple explanations as to why such a claim
    is bullshit?

    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    You start a thread about it there to prove what you say. We'll take it
    from there.

    that's not how it works.

    such threads exist and such claims have been thoroughly debunked.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Why lie?

    i'm not the one who is lying.

    Here's the URL showing the hyphen:- https://www.mac-forums.com

    you said 'mac-rumors forums'.

    changing it to mac-forums and pretending it's the same is a lie.

    Odd.

    that's one word to describe you.
    however, it's not the first word that comes to mind.

    I'm blessed. ?

    with endless stupidity.

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  • From Kelly Phillips@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 6 09:03:43 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 13:06:42 +0100, David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org>
    wrote:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    When you get banned or when your threads get closed down, which seems to
    be inevitable, you tend to post proof right here in ACW. Apparently, you
    enjoy the humiliation. Yes, I know, it's weird.

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  • From Snit@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Jun 6 16:18:49 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On Jun 6, 2022 at 5:06:42 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <m5mnK.8356$g01.6595@fx04.ams1>:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    Is it the mere mention of ClamXav or is it suggesting the app might be
    malware?

    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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  • From Joel@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Jun 6 16:33:06 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to
    be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.


    Use something else.

    --
    Joel Crump

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Mon Jun 6 21:26:06 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 06/06/2022 17:18, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 5:06:42 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <m5mnK.8356$g01.6595@fx04.ams1>:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    Is it the mere mention of ClamXav or is it suggesting the app might be malware?

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to
    be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joel on Mon Jun 6 21:38:58 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 06/06/2022 21:33, Joel wrote:
    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to
    be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.


    Use something else.


    My understanding is that it's far better to use *NO* anti-malware
    software on an Apple device!

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  • From Snit@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Jun 6 21:28:57 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On Jun 6, 2022 at 1:26:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <zptnK.141967$D41.97280@fx05.ams1>:

    On 06/06/2022 17:18, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 5:06:42 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <m5mnK.8356$g01.6595@fx04.ams1>:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums. >>>>
    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    Is it the mere mention of ClamXav or is it suggesting the app might be
    malware?

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to
    be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

    That is true of most software.

    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Snit on Mon Jun 6 23:11:05 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 06/06/2022 22:28, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 1:26:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <zptnK.141967$D41.97280@fx05.ams1>:

    On 06/06/2022 17:18, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 5:06:42 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <m5mnK.8356$g01.6595@fx04.ams1>:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums. >>>>>
    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as >>>>> well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    Is it the mere mention of ClamXav or is it suggesting the app might be
    malware?

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to
    be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

    That is true of most software.

    It's why I prefer to find the software product featured in Wikipedia and
    use the Download links provided therein.

    There's lots available from which to choose! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Macintosh_software

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Snit@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Jun 6 22:57:42 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On Jun 6, 2022 at 3:11:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <_XunK.36837$c21.27412@fx13.ams1>:

    On 06/06/2022 22:28, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 1:26:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <zptnK.141967$D41.97280@fx05.ams1>:

    On 06/06/2022 17:18, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 5:06:42 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <m5mnK.8356$g01.6595@fx04.ams1>:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01.13839@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums. >>>>>>
    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as >>>>>> well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    Is it the mere mention of ClamXav or is it suggesting the app might be >>>> malware?

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to
    be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

    That is true of most software.

    It's why I prefer to find the software product featured in Wikipedia and
    use the Download links provided therein.

    There's lots available from which to choose! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Macintosh_software

    It makes sense to stay safe -- but that is a very small list compared to what is out there.

    --
    Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

    They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From whisky-dave@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Tue Jun 7 02:55:30 2022
    On Monday, 6 June 2022 at 23:11:08 UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 06/06/2022 22:28, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 1:26:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <zptnK.141967$D41....@fx05.ams1>:

    On 06/06/2022 17:18, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 5:06:42 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <m5mnK.8356$g01....@fx04.ams1>:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01....@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <D...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums. >>>>>
    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as >>>>> well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    Is it the mere mention of ClamXav or is it suggesting the app might be >>> malware?

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to
    be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

    That is true of most software.
    It's why I prefer to find the software product featured in Wikipedia and
    use the Download links provided therein.

    There's lots available from which to choose! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Macintosh_software

    I wouldn't use wiki as trusted source that's not it's aim.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Joel@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Tue Jun 7 06:17:01 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to
    be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

    Use something else.

    My understanding is that it's far better to use *NO* anti-malware
    software on an Apple device!


    That could be. I certainly just use the one built into Windows. I'm
    not taking any real risks to begin with.

    --
    Joel Crump

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to whisky-dave on Tue Jun 7 13:01:37 2022
    On 07/06/2022 10:55, whisky-dave wrote:
    On Monday, 6 June 2022 at 23:11:08 UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 06/06/2022 22:28, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 1:26:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <zptnK.141967$D41....@fx05.ams1>:

    On 06/06/2022 17:18, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 5:06:42 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <m5mnK.8356$g01....@fx04.ams1>:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01....@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <D...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums. >>>>>>>
    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as >>>>>>> well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    Is it the mere mention of ClamXav or is it suggesting the app might be >>>>> malware?

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to >>>> be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

    That is true of most software.
    It's why I prefer to find the software product featured in Wikipedia and
    use the Download links provided therein.

    There's lots available from which to choose!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Macintosh_software

    I wouldn't use wiki as trusted source that's not it's aim.

    Can you suggest a MORE reliable source of vetted links?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Joel on Tue Jun 7 13:04:02 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 07/06/2022 11:17, Joel wrote:
    David Brooks <DGB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet
    come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to >>>> be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

    Use something else.

    My understanding is that it's far better to use *NO* anti-malware
    software on an Apple device!


    That could be. I certainly just use the one built into Windows. I'm
    not taking any real risks to begin with.

    Your first defence was buying an original, genuine, version of
    Microsoft's Windows software!

    Well done you, Joel. :-D

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  • From whisky-dave@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Tue Jun 7 07:39:02 2022
    On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 13:01:41 UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 07/06/2022 10:55, whisky-dave wrote:
    On Monday, 6 June 2022 at 23:11:08 UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 06/06/2022 22:28, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 1:26:06 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <zptnK.141967$D41....@fx05.ams1>:

    On 06/06/2022 17:18, Snit wrote:
    On Jun 6, 2022 at 5:06:42 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
    <m5mnK.8356$g01....@fx04.ams1>:

    On 05/06/2022 17:16, nospam wrote:
    In article <YU3nK.19009$g01....@fx02.ams1>, David Brooks
    <D...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    [....]
    Mention of ClamXav gets threads closed down on the Mac-Rumors forums.

    no.

    *you* get closed down on macrumors (no hyphen or intercap) forums, as
    well as everywhere else where there's moderation.

    Proof?

    https://imgur.com/TwNIbaQ

    Is it the mere mention of ClamXav or is it suggesting the app might be >>>>> malware?

    The mere mention of ClamXav seems to raise hackles - yet I've not yet >>>> come across ANYONE who claims to actually use it!

    For sure, there's no way mere mortals like us can TEST the software to >>>> be sure that it does NOT install malware onto a host computer.

    That is true of most software.
    It's why I prefer to find the software product featured in Wikipedia and >> use the Download links provided therein.

    There's lots available from which to choose!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Macintosh_software

    I wouldn't use wiki as trusted source that's not it's aim.
    Can you suggest a MORE reliable source of vetted links?

    I wasn't aware that it was meant to be a vetted list.
    No where does it say any such thing.

    all it says is
    The following is a list of Macintosh Software – notable computer applications for current macOS operating systems.

    So where or why have you decided all of what is listed safe no virus's and works 100% as stated.

    I'ts just a list and linked to further info nothing more.

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