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Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it’s the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two
fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61720276>
Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it’s >the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two
fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
On 08/06/2022 in message <t7q4g8$6oa$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org> Alan B wrote:
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Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it’s >> the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two
fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
I wondered if USB C is future proof? It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it¹s >the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two >fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
I wondered if USB C is future proof?
It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
All things being equal, fat people use more soap
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61720276>
Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it’s the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two
fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
where did you last leave it?
I wondered if USB C is future proof? It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
Until USB D is invented ;) Whatever there will be additional sales for
cable and cable adapter manufacturers .
I wondered if USB C is future proof? It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
Until USB D is invented ;) Whatever there will be additional sales for >cable and cable adapter manufacturers .
I doubt the question will ever arise. I don't believe Apple is even considering a new wired charging connector.
Innovation will be in
wireless charging.
I doubt the question will ever arise. I don't believe Apple is even
considering a new wired charging connector.
they're always considering new technology.
at some point, usb-c will be replaced by something newer and better,
just as nearly every other connector has been.
I doubt the question will ever arise. I don't believe Apple is even
considering a new wired charging connector.
they're always considering new technology.
at some point, usb-c will be replaced by something newer and better,
just as nearly every other connector has been.
It's not necessarily the case that (for phones) it will ever be
replaced by a new wired connector,
just as there will probably never
be a new headphone jack.
just as there will probably never
be a new headphone jack.
there already is a new headphone jack.
it's lightning on ios devices and usb-c on android and select ipads.
On 08 Jun 2022 at 20:57:45 BST, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <t7qucc$2imk$1@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk>, Richard Tobin
<richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
I doubt the question will ever arise. I don't believe Apple is even >>>>> considering a new wired charging connector.
they're always considering new technology.
at some point, usb-c will be replaced by something newer and better,
just as nearly every other connector has been.
It's not necessarily the case that (for phones) it will ever be
replaced by a new wired connector,
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
That would be the end of magsafe, then.
The UK government doesn't have to do anything at all. If the EU is a larger market, then that will drive what the connectors are.
In article <t7qucc$2imk$1@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk>, Richard Tobin <richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
I doubt the question will ever arise. I don't believe Apple is even
considering a new wired charging connector.
they're always considering new technology.
at some point, usb-c will be replaced by something newer and better,
just as nearly every other connector has been.
It's not necessarily the case that (for phones) it will ever be
replaced by a new wired connector,
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
On 08/06/2022 in message <080620221128112628%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam wrote:
It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
where did you last leave it?
Can't remember but it will definitely be the last place I look :-)
On 08 Jun 2022 at 20:57:45 BST, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
That would be the end of magsafe, then.
at some point, usb-c will be replaced by something newer and better,
just as nearly every other connector has been.
It's not necessarily the case that (for phones) it will ever be
replaced by a new wired connector,
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
That would be the end of magsafe, then.
The UK government doesn't have to do anything at all. If the EU is a larger market, then that will drive what the connectors are.
On 09/06/2022 09:50, TimS wrote:
On 08 Jun 2022 at 20:57:45 BST, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <t7qucc$2imk$1@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk>, Richard Tobin
<richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
I doubt the question will ever arise. I don't believe Apple is even >>>>>> considering a new wired charging connector.
they're always considering new technology.
at some point, usb-c will be replaced by something newer and better, >>>>> just as nearly every other connector has been.
It's not necessarily the case that (for phones) it will ever be
replaced by a new wired connector,
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
That would be the end of magsafe, then.
The UK government doesn't have to do anything at all. If the EU is a larger >> market, then that will drive what the connectors are.
But jumping up and down and saying we won't do anything shows that
Brexit is working.
TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
On 08 Jun 2022 at 20:57:45 BST, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
That would be the end of magsafe, then.
It wouldn't, because it just mandates the ability to charge via USB-C, not USB-C exclusively. You can still have magsafe as long as the laptop also
has a USB-C port and will charge via it.
In article <t7qr74$2gs3$1...@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk>, Richard Tobin <ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
I wondered if USB C is future proof? It's a pain to find my iPad cable >> when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
Until USB D is invented ;) Whatever there will be additional sales for >cable and cable adapter manufacturers .
I doubt the question will ever arise. I don't believe Apple is even considering a new wired charging connector.they're always considering new technology.
at some point, usb-c will be replaced by something newer and better,
just as nearly every other connector has been.
Innovation will be intrue, although it's been slow.
wireless charging.
On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 at 20:07:06 UTC+1, nospam wrote:
In article <t7qr74$2gs3$1...@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk>, Richard Tobin
<ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
they're always considering new technology.I wondered if USB C is future proof? It's a pain to find my iPad cable >>>>> when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
Until USB D is invented ;) Whatever there will be additional sales for >>>> cable and cable adapter manufacturers .
I doubt the question will ever arise. I don't believe Apple is even
considering a new wired charging connector.
at some point, usb-c will be replaced by something newer and better,
just as nearly every other connector has been.
Innovation will be intrue, although it's been slow.
wireless charging.
I'd still like that option, though even if slow, it'll still be faster
than charging up with the cable I can't find
or because some crap has compacted itself into the charging socket.
I wouldn;t want any govenment to decdie on such things especailly when they are mosty
self serving idiots that goes for the UK and the EU.
On 8 Jun 2022 at 13:25:44 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61720276>
Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it’s >> the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two
fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
The latter, plus it'll make no difference as who the fuck is going to do
make something specific for the UK's tiny proportion of the market?
Cheers - Jaimie
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
On 08/06/2022 20:57, nospam wrote:
Correct.
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
But, if there is no charging port?
On 08/06/2022 in message <t7q4g8$6oa$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org> Alan B wrote:
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61720276>
Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it’s >> the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two
fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
I wondered if USB C is future proof? It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
I think my concern with this plan is people grabbing the first cable
that comes to hand. So they'll use a cheap thin cable, containing the minimum of copper possible to charge a phone at 5W, and use it to power
a laptop on a laptop power supply at 105W. And then wonder why the cable
is nice and hot.
USB-C charging is clever enough to not do that.
On 08/06/2022 16:11, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 08/06/2022 in message
<t7q4g8$6oa$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org> Alan B wrote:
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61720276>
Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it’s >>> the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two
fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
I wondered if USB C is future proof? It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
I think my concern with this plan is people grabbing the first cable
that comes to hand. So they'll use a cheap thin cable, containing the
minimum of copper possible to charge a phone at 5W, and use it to power
a laptop on a laptop power supply at 105W. And then wonder why the cable
is nice and hot.
On 08/06/2022 20:57, nospam wrote:
maybe so, except that the eu wants to mandate usb-c charging for
phones, tablets, headphones, cameras and even laptops.
Correct.
But, if there is no charging port?
I suspect wireless is the way forward, even my toothbrush has it.
On 10 Jun 2022 at 22:34:07 BST, "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
On 08/06/2022 16:11, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 08/06/2022 in message
<t7q4g8$6oa$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org> Alan B wrote:
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61720276>
Are the UK government really adopting this policy because they think it’s
the right thing to do (e.g. Stifles innovation) or just to stick two
fingers up to the EU. I suspect the latter.
I wondered if USB C is future proof? It's a pain to find my iPad cable
when I need it (the one to hand is USB C) but things change.
I think my concern with this plan is people grabbing the first cable
that comes to hand. So they'll use a cheap thin cable, containing the
minimum of copper possible to charge a phone at 5W, and use it to power
a laptop on a laptop power supply at 105W. And then wonder why the cable
is nice and hot.
USB-C charging is clever enough to not do that.
Here¹s a site (aimed at Android users but still applies elsewhere) that
says it will keep a list of USB-C compliant cables.
<https://www.androidauthority.com/best-usb-type-c-cables-682801/>
In article <t89i7k$mqh$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>, Alan
B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Here¹s a site (aimed at Android users but still applies elsewhere) that
says it will keep a list of USB-C compliant cables.
<https://www.androidauthority.com/best-usb-type-c-cables-682801/>
they don't list very many cables, plus they can't resist bashing with
this bit of rubbish:
Apple has a design language all its own, and it excels at making
things complicated for everyone else.
but it gets worse:
Sadly, there¹s no Thunderbolt to Lightning option because that would
be too shocking for Apple.
On 14/06/2022 12:05, nospam wrote:
In article <t89i7k$mqh$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>, Alan
B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Here¹s a site (aimed at Android users but still applies elsewhere) that >>> says it will keep a list of USB-C compliant cables.
<https://www.androidauthority.com/best-usb-type-c-cables-682801/>
they don't list very many cables, plus they can't resist bashing with
this bit of rubbish:
Apple has a design language all its own, and it excels at making
things complicated for everyone else.
but it gets worse:
Sadly, there¹s no Thunderbolt to Lightning option because that would
be too shocking for Apple.
Well they are being paid to push Android.
Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/06/2022 12:05, nospam wrote:
In article <t89i7k$mqh$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>, Alan
B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
Here¹s a site (aimed at Android users but still applies elsewhere) that >>>> says it will keep a list of USB-C compliant cables.
<https://www.androidauthority.com/best-usb-type-c-cables-682801/>
they don't list very many cables, plus they can't resist bashing with
this bit of rubbish:
Apple has a design language all its own, and it excels at making
things complicated for everyone else.
but it gets worse:
Sadly, there¹s no Thunderbolt to Lightning option because that would
be too shocking for Apple.
Well they are being paid to push Android.
Then they’ll be disgusted to know that I usually buy any extra cables I need directly from Apple ;)
What do they mean by Apple’s own design language? Do they mean high level system design tools, software development or what?
Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/06/2022 12:05, nospam wrote:
but it gets worse:
Sadly, there¹s no Thunderbolt to Lightning option because that would
be too shocking for Apple.
Well they are being paid to push Android.
What do they mean by Apple’s own design language? Do they mean high level system design tools, software development or what?
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