So, thanks to the 'Moving from Mojave' thread, I have now used OCLP to
install Monterey on my old iMac 2013.

My thinking is that this is just a secondary device now, and I only use
it occasionally, most of my serious stuff is done on my iPad Pro.

However, I've found one or two odd things that have become troublesome,
such as Pages and Numbers documents created, or edited, on the iPad, no
longer open on the iMac using Catalina.

And although I can import and manage the folder and albums etc. in
Photos, edits are not transferring across from the iPad (not terribly important, but could be handy at times).

Of course not forgetting the rumoured upcoming 'vintage' status of
Catalina, which may not get any more security updates.

I was thinking about a used Monterey capable machine to replace the
iMac, but that still looks too costly, and way beyond what I can justify
for the need.

So, after the initial test, using OCLP on a spare external HDD, I was
happy with the process, and the performance (USB speed was considered),
and the stability seemed OK. I got no crashes, and everything worked.

I've now took the plunge, and installed OCLP and Monterey (I chose a
'Release' version, not a 'Beta', I thought things are risky enough as it
is:-)) onto my internal SSD.

So far, so good. I did need to run the Post Install Upgrader, for the
GPU, which fixed a few minor glitches. Otherwise, I haven't come across anything untoward, at least nothing that wasn't apparent before (so they haven't fixed everything after two major upgrades then!).

I was astonished to find that some things worked that I wasn't
expecting, such as Universal Control, which works a treat with my iPad
Pro (saves me the BT Keyboard and Mouse I had cluttering up the desk -
although it actually worked both ways). Even Sidecar works, after a fashion.

Performance wise, I can't tell any difference, although some stuff is
still 'curating' after the install, it's running pretty much as before
(speedy enough for my needs anyway).

So yeah, if you have an ageing Mac, likely to end up in recycle, or
stuck in a cupboard, OCLP is probably worth a punt.

--
Andy H

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Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

However, I've found one or two odd things that have become troublesome,
such as Pages and Numbers documents created, or edited, on the iPad, no longer open on the iMac using Catalina.

Perhaps the “iWork” apps got updated as part of the uplift and incompatibilities have crept in?

--
Cheers, Alan

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On 17/06/2022 07:10, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

However, I've found one or two odd things that have become troublesome,
such as Pages and Numbers documents created, or edited, on the iPad, no
longer open on the iMac using Catalina.

Perhaps the “iWork” apps got updated as part of the uplift and incompatibilities have crept in?

I think there's a misunderstanding there.

The iWork apps were troublesome /before/ I upgraded to Monterey. These
were stuck on older version in Catalina on the iMac, but had upgraded to
the latest versions on the iPad. This had meant that I couldn't open any documents created on the iPad.

Since I've installed Monterey, and upgraded the iWork apps on the iMac,
I can now open all those documents.

--
Andy H

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Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

On 17/06/2022 07:10, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

However, I've found one or two odd things that have become troublesome,
such as Pages and Numbers documents created, or edited, on the iPad, no
longer open on the iMac using Catalina.

Perhaps the “iWork” apps got updated as part of the uplift and
incompatibilities have crept in?

I think there's a misunderstanding there.

The iWork apps were troublesome /before/ I upgraded to Monterey. These
were stuck on older version in Catalina on the iMac, but had upgraded to
the latest versions on the iPad. This had meant that I couldn't open any documents created on the iPad.

Since I've installed Monterey, and upgraded the iWork apps on the iMac,
I can now open all those documents.

Yes I see what you mean now. A bit early in the morning for me - well
that’s my excuse anyway ;)

--
Cheers, Alan

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Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

On 17/06/2022 08:52, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

On 17/06/2022 07:10, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

However, I've found one or two odd things that have become troublesome, >>>>> such as Pages and Numbers documents created, or edited, on the iPad, no >>>>> longer open on the iMac using Catalina.

Perhaps the “iWork” apps got updated as part of the uplift and
incompatibilities have crept in?

I think there's a misunderstanding there.

The iWork apps were troublesome /before/ I upgraded to Monterey. These
were stuck on older version in Catalina on the iMac, but had upgraded to >>> the latest versions on the iPad. This had meant that I couldn't open any >>> documents created on the iPad.

Since I've installed Monterey, and upgraded the iWork apps on the iMac,
I can now open all those documents.

Yes I see what you mean now. A bit early in the morning for me - well
that’s my excuse anyway ;)

Need some stronger coffee :-)

Getting too expensive :(

--
Cheers, Alan

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On 17/06/2022 08:52, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

On 17/06/2022 07:10, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

However, I've found one or two odd things that have become troublesome, >>>> such as Pages and Numbers documents created, or edited, on the iPad, no >>>> longer open on the iMac using Catalina.

Perhaps the “iWork” apps got updated as part of the uplift and
incompatibilities have crept in?

I think there's a misunderstanding there.

The iWork apps were troublesome /before/ I upgraded to Monterey. These
were stuck on older version in Catalina on the iMac, but had upgraded to
the latest versions on the iPad. This had meant that I couldn't open any
documents created on the iPad.

Since I've installed Monterey, and upgraded the iWork apps on the iMac,
I can now open all those documents.

Yes I see what you mean now. A bit early in the morning for me - well that’s my excuse anyway ;)

Need some stronger coffee :-)


--
Andy H

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On 17/06/2022 09:31, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

[..]

Need some stronger coffee :-)

Getting too expensive :(

What isn't? 🥲


--
Andy H

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On 17 Jun 2022 at 09:31:01 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.invalid> wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

On 17/06/2022 08:52, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

On 17/06/2022 07:10, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

However, I've found one or two odd things that have become troublesome, >>>>>> such as Pages and Numbers documents created, or edited, on the iPad, no >>>>>> longer open on the iMac using Catalina.

Perhaps the “iWork” apps got updated as part of the uplift and
incompatibilities have crept in?

I think there's a misunderstanding there.

The iWork apps were troublesome /before/ I upgraded to Monterey. These >>>> were stuck on older version in Catalina on the iMac, but had upgraded to >>>> the latest versions on the iPad. This had meant that I couldn't open any >>>> documents created on the iPad.

Since I've installed Monterey, and upgraded the iWork apps on the iMac, >>>> I can now open all those documents.

Yes I see what you mean now. A bit early in the morning for me - well
that’s my excuse anyway ;)

Need some stronger coffee :-)

Getting too expensive :(

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"I think man is the most interesting insect on earth, don't you?"
-- Marvin the Martian

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On 18 Jun 2022 at 08:22:03 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

I was a pod (Dolce Gusto Intenso was my favourite) user until early this year, when I decided I’d had enough of the wastage with them (in the real world, I never ended up using the recycle bags to return them). The cost of those has gradually been increasing too.

I have a Nesspresso machine used the Staebucks branded luminium pods for a couple years. Usually from Amazon unless the local Tesco/Morrisons match the price. However I think the machine is nearing end of life and will probably
not be replaced.
My wife uses coffee grounds on the garden. Apparently it's good for something out there. So I scrape the pods out and chuck the empties in the recycling
bin.
For a real mug of coffee it's currently Lavazza in an Aeropress which I have used for years. Coffee again from Amazon unless it's cheaper elsewhere.
I'll check out http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ thanks Jamie.
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You can go about your business
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Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 17 Jun 2022 at 09:31:01 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.invalid> wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

Need some stronger coffee :-)

Getting too expensive :(

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

I was a pod (Dolce Gusto Intenso was my favourite) user until early this
year, when I decided I’d had enough of the wastage with them (in the real world, I never ended up using the recycle bags to return them). The cost of those has gradually been increasing too.

So I bought a Swan Retro Espresso machine (as recommended on https://coffeeblog.co.uk). It does work out cheaper than using pods. I
don’t mind the extra faffing about, it adds a little something to the experience of coffee drinking. I’m not a snob, but I do like a good coffee.

However, wanting to keep costs low, I have been using the lowest cost
supplies I can find. So far that has been Happy Belly from Amazon (two 250g bags for £5.50). I also tried Lavazza (no better for more money) and Illy (didn’t like that much at all).

I’m trying Taylors Espresso blend, which is OK, although no better than the Happy Belly for a little more cost (£3.50 for 227g on offer). I’ve tried
the Sainsbury’s own Decaf - although that’s not an espresso grind, it’s actually Ok for a milder cup.

I’ll have a look at Red Monkey, I’ll probably order some to try, thanks.

Perhaps this all might help with my OP about hacking an old iMac ;-)

--
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On 2022-06-18, Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 17 Jun 2022 at 09:31:01 BST, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.invalid> wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

Need some stronger coffee :-)

Getting too expensive :(

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

I was a pod (Dolce Gusto Intenso was my favourite) user until early this year, when I decided I’d had enough of the wastage with them (in the real world, I never ended up using the recycle bags to return them). The cost of those has gradually been increasing too.

So I bought a Swan Retro Espresso machine (as recommended on https://coffeeblog.co.uk). It does work out cheaper than using pods. I don’t mind the extra faffing about, it adds a little something to the experience of coffee drinking. I’m not a snob, but I do like a good coffee.

However, wanting to keep costs low, I have been using the lowest cost supplies I can find. So far that has been Happy Belly from Amazon (two 250g bags for £5.50). I also tried Lavazza (no better for more money) and Illy (didn’t like that much at all).

I’m trying Taylors Espresso blend, which is OK, although no better than the Happy Belly for a little more cost (£3.50 for 227g on offer). I’ve tried the Sainsbury’s own Decaf - although that’s not an espresso grind, it’s actually Ok for a milder cup.

I’ll have a look at Red Monkey, I’ll probably order some to try, thanks.

Perhaps this all might help with my OP about hacking an old iMac ;-)

In recent years we've become Nespresso machine and pod users (what else?). Yodel delivers the pods and takes then when used. We do use our cafetiere occasionally but I've not really found a coffee I really like. Perhaps
I should stop buying the supermarket own brands? Anyway nothing
ventured, nothing gained I'm going to order some Red Monkey house blend.

--
Cheers, Alan

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On 18/06/2022 08:49, Alan B wrote:

On 2022-06-18, Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

In recent years we've become Nespresso machine and pod users (what else?). Yodel delivers the pods and takes then when used. We do use our cafetiere occasionally but I've not really found a coffee I really like. Perhaps
I should stop buying the supermarket own brands? Anyway nothing
ventured, nothing gained I'm going to order some Red Monkey house blend.

I was about to buy a Nespresso machine myself, but when I saw the cost
of the pods, compared to the Dulce Gusto ones, that's when I abandoned,
and went with a manual espresso jobby.

There are things in between cheap supermarket and expensive artisan stuff.

If you have any interest, it's worth having a read of some articles, and watching some of his videos over at https://coffeeblog.co.uk.

It can be as much about /how/ you brew the coffee as it is about the
coffee itself.

Of course if you really want to go another level, get some beans and a
decent burr grinder :-).

--
Andy H

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Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 08:49, Alan B wrote:

On 2022-06-18, Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

In recent years we've become Nespresso machine and pod users (what else?). >> Yodel delivers the pods and takes then when used. We do use our cafetiere
occasionally but I've not really found a coffee I really like. Perhaps
I should stop buying the supermarket own brands? Anyway nothing
ventured, nothing gained I'm going to order some Red Monkey house blend.

I was about to buy a Nespresso machine myself, but when I saw the cost
of the pods, compared to the Dulce Gusto ones, that's when I abandoned,
and went with a manual espresso jobby.

There are things in between cheap supermarket and expensive artisan stuff.

If you have any interest, it's worth having a read of some articles, and watching some of his videos over at https://coffeeblog.co.uk.

It can be as much about /how/ you brew the coffee as it is about the
coffee itself.

Of course if you really want to go another level, get some beans and a
decent burr grinder :-).

I do have an electric grinder so I’ve actually ordered beans rather than pre-ground. I will need to brush up on my grinding skills again! I don’t think I’ll be roasting beans though ;)

--
Cheers, Alan

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On 18/06/2022 08:40, Ray wrote:

On 18 Jun 2022 at 08:22:03 BST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

I was a pod (Dolce Gusto Intenso was my favourite) user until early this
year, when I decided I’d had enough of the wastage with them (in the real >> world, I never ended up using the recycle bags to return them). The cost of >> those has gradually been increasing too.

I have a Nesspresso machine used the Staebucks branded luminium pods for a couple years. Usually from Amazon unless the local Tesco/Morrisons match the price. However I think the machine is nearing end of life and will probably not be replaced.

I couldn't stand the Starbucks branded ones in Dulce Gusto, they seemed
too weak to me. I like a strong mug full - and even the Americano
Intenso is only just enough for me (I have been known to bung a cup of
espresso in as well, but then that increases pod costs).

My wife uses coffee grounds on the garden. Apparently it's good for something out there. So I scrape the pods out and chuck the empties in the recycling bin.

Yeah, apparently it's a good fertiliser, and I believe birds will eat it
too.

For a real mug of coffee it's currently Lavazza in an Aeropress which I have used for years. Coffee again from Amazon unless it's cheaper elsewhere.
I'll check out http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ thanks Jamie.

I was thinking about getting one of those stove top peculator things.
The genuine Italian ones aren't that expensive either (so not worth
going for the cheaper oriental ones). Just as something different to try.

It's trying to get decent espresso grind that starts to get expensive.

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Andy H

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On 18/06/2022 09:49, Alan B wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 08:49, Alan B wrote:

On 2022-06-18, Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

In recent years we've become Nespresso machine and pod users (what else?). >>> Yodel delivers the pods and takes then when used. We do use our cafetiere >>> occasionally but I've not really found a coffee I really like. Perhaps
I should stop buying the supermarket own brands? Anyway nothing
ventured, nothing gained I'm going to order some Red Monkey house blend.

I was about to buy a Nespresso machine myself, but when I saw the cost
of the pods, compared to the Dulce Gusto ones, that's when I abandoned,
and went with a manual espresso jobby.

There are things in between cheap supermarket and expensive artisan stuff. >>
If you have any interest, it's worth having a read of some articles, and
watching some of his videos over at https://coffeeblog.co.uk.

It can be as much about /how/ you brew the coffee as it is about the
coffee itself.

Of course if you really want to go another level, get some beans and a
decent burr grinder :-).

I do have an electric grinder so I’ve actually ordered beans rather than pre-ground. I will need to brush up on my grinding skills again! I don’t think I’ll be roasting beans though ;)

I bought a JLP cheap grinder a year or so back which I use for cafetière coffee. It's a noisy as hell but, after a little practice, it's
surprisingly easy to control the fineness just by noting (sorry) the
pitch of the machine.

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

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On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

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On 17 Jun 2022 at 11:54:01 pm BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Thanks - I'll investigate as our coffee spend is getting silly.

Also nice to see a 'click to enter' button after all these years :)
--
TimH
pull tooth to reply by email

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TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

On 17 Jun 2022 at 11:54:01 pm BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Thanks - I'll investigate as our coffee spend is getting silly.

Also nice to see a 'click to enter' button after all these years :)

With all these potential new sales, Jaimie ought to claim some commission
;-)

--
Cheers, Alan

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Ray <amos-jones@outlook.com> wrote:

My wife uses coffee grounds on the garden. Apparently it's good for something out there.

You can impress strangers by telling them you go for a stroll round the
grounds every evening.


--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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On 18 Jun 2022 at 20:10:29 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

On 17 Jun 2022 at 11:54:01 pm BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Thanks - I'll investigate as our coffee spend is getting silly.

Also nice to see a 'click to enter' button after all these years :)

To be entirely fair, they've not updated their site in well over a
decade either! Note lack of https, bless them.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++
makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away
your whole leg.
-- Bjarne Stroustrup

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On 19 Jun 2022 at 08:39:18 BST, "Liz Tuddenham" <Liz Tuddenham> wrote:

Ray <amos-jones@outlook.com> wrote:

My wife uses coffee grounds on the garden. Apparently it's good for something
out there.

You can impress strangers by telling them you go for a stroll round the grounds every evening.

Oh I see what you did there. :-)
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You can go about your business
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On 2022-06-17, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Just had my first cup of freshly brewed RedMonkey house blend. As you
say it's extremely nice :) I still need to perfect my milk frothing
techniques though ;)

--
Cheers, Alan

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On 18/06/2022 19:16, David Kennedy wrote:

On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

     Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

Well, I did...

So, Jamie, please put me through to your complaints department! Immediately!

I got the coffee and brewed up Sunday morning.
Very nice too. I was impressed.
Anyway, later that day my wife made some coffee. It was not nice.
What, I asked have you made this from?
It turns out that this bitter brew was my old stock that I /had/ been drinking perfectly happily for the past 10 years or so...

:-(

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

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On 30 Jun 2022 at 10:37:41 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-06-17, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Just had my first cup of freshly brewed RedMonkey house blend. As you
say it's extremely nice :) I still need to perfect my milk frothing techniques though ;)

Double win! Splendid. I've been buying from them nearly 15 years now
IIRC.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Sent from my Amiga 1000

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On 30 Jun 2022 at 11:01:14 BST, "David Kennedy"
<davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 19:16, David Kennedy wrote:

On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee >>> snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

Well, I did...

So, Jamie, please put me through to your complaints department! Immediately!

I got the coffee and brewed up Sunday morning.
Very nice too. I was impressed.
Anyway, later that day my wife made some coffee. It was not nice.
What, I asked have you made this from?
It turns out that this bitter brew was my old stock that I /had/ been drinking
perfectly happily for the past 10 years or so...

:-(

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Haha! Amazing. Happy to have helped!

Cheers - Jaimie
--
I always wanted to be someone. I should have been more specific.
-- Lily Tomlin

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On 01/07/2022 07:51, Alan B wrote:

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 30/06/2022 17:58, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

On 30 Jun 2022 at 11:01:14 BST, "David Kennedy"
<davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 19:16, David Kennedy wrote:

On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who >>>>>> haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee >>>>>> snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

Well, I did...

So, Jamie, please put me through to your complaints department! Immediately!

I got the coffee and brewed up Sunday morning.
Very nice too. I was impressed.
Anyway, later that day my wife made some coffee. It was not nice.
What, I asked have you made this from?
It turns out that this bitter brew was my old stock that I /had/ been drinking
perfectly happily for the past 10 years or so...

:-(

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Haha! Amazing. Happy to have helped!

Cheers - Jaimie

I take that you're not wanting some slightly substandard stuff though?

Well you can supposedly used ground up coffee beans in your garden ;)

<https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredients/coffee-grounds-gardening.htm>

Tried them to keep slugs away but it seemed to have the reverse effect here...

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On 30/06/2022 17:58, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

On 30 Jun 2022 at 11:01:14 BST, "David Kennedy"
<davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 19:16, David Kennedy wrote:

On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who
haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee >>>> snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

Well, I did...

So, Jamie, please put me through to your complaints department! Immediately! >>
I got the coffee and brewed up Sunday morning.
Very nice too. I was impressed.
Anyway, later that day my wife made some coffee. It was not nice.
What, I asked have you made this from?
It turns out that this bitter brew was my old stock that I /had/ been drinking
perfectly happily for the past 10 years or so...

:-(

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Haha! Amazing. Happy to have helped!

Cheers - Jaimie

I take that you're not wanting some slightly substandard stuff though?

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David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 30/06/2022 17:58, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

On 30 Jun 2022 at 11:01:14 BST, "David Kennedy"
<davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 19:16, David Kennedy wrote:

On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who >>>>> haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee >>>>> snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

Well, I did...

So, Jamie, please put me through to your complaints department! Immediately!

I got the coffee and brewed up Sunday morning.
Very nice too. I was impressed.
Anyway, later that day my wife made some coffee. It was not nice.
What, I asked have you made this from?
It turns out that this bitter brew was my old stock that I /had/ been drinking
perfectly happily for the past 10 years or so...

:-(

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Haha! Amazing. Happy to have helped!

Cheers - Jaimie

I take that you're not wanting some slightly substandard stuff though?

Well you can supposedly used ground up coffee beans in your garden ;)

<https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredients/coffee-grounds-gardening.htm>

--
Cheers, Alan

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David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 01/07/2022 07:51, Alan B wrote:

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 30/06/2022 17:58, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

On 30 Jun 2022 at 11:01:14 BST, "David Kennedy"
<davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 19:16, David Kennedy wrote:

On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who >>>>>>> haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

Well, I did...

So, Jamie, please put me through to your complaints department! Immediately!

I got the coffee and brewed up Sunday morning.
Very nice too. I was impressed.
Anyway, later that day my wife made some coffee. It was not nice.
What, I asked have you made this from?
It turns out that this bitter brew was my old stock that I /had/ been drinking
perfectly happily for the past 10 years or so...

:-(

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Haha! Amazing. Happy to have helped!

Cheers - Jaimie

I take that you're not wanting some slightly substandard stuff though?

Well you can supposedly used ground up coffee beans in your garden ;)

<https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredients/coffee-grounds-gardening.htm>

Tried them to keep slugs away but it seemed to have the reverse effect here...

Aren’t slug pellets banned or about to be? I’ve tried beer in the past!

--
Cheers, Alan

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On 01/07/2022 08:10, Alan B wrote:

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 01/07/2022 07:51, Alan B wrote:

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 30/06/2022 17:58, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

On 30 Jun 2022 at 11:01:14 BST, "David Kennedy"
<davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 19:16, David Kennedy wrote:

On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who >>>>>>>> haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

Well, I did...

So, Jamie, please put me through to your complaints department! Immediately!

I got the coffee and brewed up Sunday morning.
Very nice too. I was impressed.
Anyway, later that day my wife made some coffee. It was not nice.
What, I asked have you made this from?
It turns out that this bitter brew was my old stock that I /had/ been drinking
perfectly happily for the past 10 years or so...

:-(

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Haha! Amazing. Happy to have helped!

Cheers - Jaimie

I take that you're not wanting some slightly substandard stuff though?

Well you can supposedly used ground up coffee beans in your garden ;)

<https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredients/coffee-grounds-gardening.htm>

Tried them to keep slugs away but it seemed to have the reverse effect here...

Aren’t slug pellets banned or about to be? I’ve tried beer in the past!

I quite like beer too.

But, slug pellets are not at all eco friendly as they go on to poison birds etc. Apparently nematodes are the way forward not that I've tried them out.

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In message <t9m5gm$26pcf$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.invalid> wrote:

Well you can supposedly used ground up coffee beans in your garden ;)

A horticulturist ex-colleague informed me that coffee grouts can be used
as a weed killer. She then reminded me that what constitutes a weed is in
the eye of the beholder.

--
fred

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On 1 Jul 2022 at 08:00:32 BST, "David Kennedy"
<davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 01/07/2022 07:51, Alan B wrote:

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 30/06/2022 17:58, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

On 30 Jun 2022 at 11:01:14 BST, "David Kennedy"
<davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18/06/2022 19:16, David Kennedy wrote:

On 17/06/2022 23:54, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Can I tout my coffee suppliers? http://www.redmonkeycoffee.co.uk/ who >>>>>>> haven't upped their prices in years.

Their colombian decaff is the only decaff I've ever fooled actual coffee
snobs with :) The house blend is also extremely nice.

Cheers - Jaimie

Thanks.

Looks interesting, I'll give them a try.

Well, I did...

So, Jamie, please put me through to your complaints department! Immediately!

I got the coffee and brewed up Sunday morning.
Very nice too. I was impressed.
Anyway, later that day my wife made some coffee. It was not nice.
What, I asked have you made this from?
It turns out that this bitter brew was my old stock that I /had/ been drinking
perfectly happily for the past 10 years or so...

:-(

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Haha! Amazing. Happy to have helped!

Cheers - Jaimie

I take that you're not wanting some slightly substandard stuff though?

Well you can supposedly used ground up coffee beans in your garden ;)

<https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredients/coffee-grounds-gardening.htm>

Tried them to keep slugs away but it seemed to have the reverse effect here...

Leave it in the 2lb bag and thump them with it.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
BANACH TARSKI is an anagram of BANACH TARSKI BANACH TARSKI

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On 30/06/2022 11:01, David Kennedy wrote:

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Save it for visitors. ;-)

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

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On 03/07/2022 23:33, Bruce Horrocks wrote:

On 30/06/2022 11:01, David Kennedy wrote:

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Save it for visitors. ;-)

My thought exactly and, I already know which visitor...

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On 2022-07-06, David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 03/07/2022 23:33, Bruce Horrocks wrote:

On 30/06/2022 11:01, David Kennedy wrote:

Anyone want to buy a couple of pounds of coffee?

Save it for visitors. ;-)

My thought exactly and, I already know which visitor...

Send it to Number 10 - they need to keep themselves well awake to
sort ot their current mess.

Let's get Jexit done!

--
Cheers, Alan

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