"David Brooks" wrote:
On 23/10/2022 19:45, Apd wrote:
"David Brooks" wrote:
My Apple iMac has what is known as a Fusion Drive. I have read Use Disk >>>> Utility to erase an Intel-based Mac - Apple Support . When one carries >>>> out an "Erase" using Disk Utility I had always thought that the SSD
would be erased too. From what I've read above, it seems not to be the >>>> case! Is there some special 'tool' needed to remove all data from my
SSD?
Ok. It's erased enough that any malware present is gone.
May I ask how you know that to be true?
What do you think "erase" means? Any bits of code or data left behind
with no filing system to tie them together or OS to run them can't do anything.
If Apple does NOT delete all data from my SSD when I 'clean' my iMac
It effectively does. Only a forensic expert could attempt recovery,
and even then may not be successful. Malware does not and would not do
that.
I've used Disk Drill to recover data.
From an erased disk, and complete working executables? Unlikely.
Malware on an already active system has no need to recover anything
from an erased disk.
before reinstallation of the operating system, surely well crafted
malware COULD be pulled back into the main operating system and do
bad deeds again.
Absolutely not.
Again, I have to take your word on that.
How do you think it could happen? Malware needs the OS to run. It
can't run from a blank system with nothing to launch it.
<font color="#000000">...</font>
I've used Disk Drill to recover data.
From an erased disk, and complete working executables? Unlikely.
Malware on an already active system has no need to recover anything
from an erased disk.
Apple computer don't GET malware according to folk posting on the ASC!
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:20:55 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <d7j5L.1484818$pI23.1210950@fx07.ams1>:
<font color="#000000">...</font>
I've used Disk Drill to recover data.
From an erased disk, and complete working executables? Unlikely.
Malware on an already active system has no need to recover anything
from an erased disk.
Apple computer don't GET malware according to folk posting on the ASC!
Who says they never do?
On 23/10/2022 23:26, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:20:55 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<d7j5L.1484818$pI23.1210950@fx07.ams1>:
<font color="#000000">...</font>
I've used Disk Drill to recover data.
From an erased disk, and complete working executables? Unlikely.
Malware on an already active system has no need to recover anything
from an erased disk.
Apple computer don't GET malware according to folk posting on the ASC!
Who says they never do?
You must ask for yourself on the ASC forums, Snit.
Please post a link to your question.
*HOW* does ETRECHECK remove malware as stated here:- https://etrecheck.com/en/features.html
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:31:51 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <thj5L.1194758$G_96.994168@fx13.ams1>:
On 23/10/2022 23:26, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:20:55 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<d7j5L.1484818$pI23.1210950@fx07.ams1>:
<font color="#000000">...</font>
I've used Disk Drill to recover data.
From an erased disk, and complete working executables? Unlikely.
Malware on an already active system has no need to recover anything
from an erased disk.
Apple computer don't GET malware according to folk posting on the ASC!
Who says they never do?
You must ask for yourself on the ASC forums, Snit.
So they have not said it?
Please post a link to your question.
*HOW* does ETRECHECK remove malware as stated here:-
https://etrecheck.com/en/features.html
I have barely used it... but if like most it finds files with malware and gives you the option to deal with it.
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:44:24 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <dtj5L.1484820$pI23.508783@fx07.ams1>:
On 23/10/2022 23:38, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:31:51 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<thj5L.1194758$G_96.994168@fx13.ams1>:
On 23/10/2022 23:26, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:20:55 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<d7j5L.1484818$pI23.1210950@fx07.ams1>:
Who says they never do?<font color="#000000">...</font>
I've used Disk Drill to recover data.
From an erased disk, and complete working executables? Unlikely. >>>>>>> Malware on an already active system has no need to recover anything >>>>>>> from an erased disk.
Apple computer don't GET malware according to folk posting on the ASC! >>>>>
You must ask for yourself on the ASC forums, Snit.
So they have not said it?
Read here, please!
Old Toad has replied to your question. You can view the full discussion
in Communities.
Deleting files - is this true?
Both of the sites you've linked to are selling tools. There is no reason
to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing",
"speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac. This
documents describe what you need to know and do in order to protect your
Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple
Community and Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support
calls, and other scams - Apple Support.
Noting you can get malware.
Is there anyone saying Macs never get malware?
There are no known viruses, i.e. self propagating, for Macs. There are,
however, adware and malware which require the user to install although
unwittingly most of the time thru sneaky links, etc.
Anti Virus developers try to group all types as viruses into their ad
campaigns of fear. They do a poor job of the detecting and isolating
the adware and malware. Since there are no viruses these apps use up a
lot of system resources searching for what is non-existent and adversely
affect system and app performance.
There is one app, Malwarebytes, which was developed by a long time
contributor to these forums and a highly respected member of the
computer security community, that is designed solely to seek out adware
and known malware and remove it. The free version is more than adequate
for most users.
https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/1fdc696a-7e17-4ca6-a643-8bb4dcbb13c9
Please post a link to your question.
*HOW* does ETRECHECK remove malware as stated here:-
https://etrecheck.com/en/features.html
I have barely used it... but if like most it finds files with malware and >>> gives you the option to deal with it.
That doesn't quite read right, sir!
Not sure what you are asking.
On 23/10/2022 23:38, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:31:51 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<thj5L.1194758$G_96.994168@fx13.ams1>:
On 23/10/2022 23:26, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:20:55 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<d7j5L.1484818$pI23.1210950@fx07.ams1>:
Who says they never do?<font color="#000000">...</font>
I've used Disk Drill to recover data.
From an erased disk, and complete working executables? Unlikely. >>>>>> Malware on an already active system has no need to recover anything >>>>>> from an erased disk.
Apple computer don't GET malware according to folk posting on the ASC! >>>>
You must ask for yourself on the ASC forums, Snit.
So they have not said it?
Read here, please!
Old Toad has replied to your question. You can view the full discussion
in Communities.
Deleting files - is this true?
Both of the sites you've linked to are selling tools. There is no reason
to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing",
"speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac. This
documents describe what you need to know and do in order to protect your
Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple
Community and Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support
calls, and other scams - Apple Support.
There are no known viruses, i.e. self propagating, for Macs. There are, however, adware and malware which require the user to install although unwittingly most of the time thru sneaky links, etc.
Anti Virus developers try to group all types as viruses into their ad campaigns of fear. They do a poor job of the detecting and isolating
the adware and malware. Since there are no viruses these apps use up a
lot of system resources searching for what is non-existent and adversely affect system and app performance.
There is one app, Malwarebytes, which was developed by a long time contributor to these forums and a highly respected member of the
computer security community, that is designed solely to seek out adware
and known malware and remove it. The free version is more than adequate
for most users.
https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/1fdc696a-7e17-4ca6-a643-8bb4dcbb13c9
Please post a link to your question.
*HOW* does ETRECHECK remove malware as stated here:-
https://etrecheck.com/en/features.html
I have barely used it... but if like most it finds files with malware and
gives you the option to deal with it.
That doesn't quite read right, sir!
D.
Apple computer don't GET malware according to folk posting on the ASC!
I don't know sufficient to make comment.
On 23/10/2022 23:50, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:44:24 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<dtj5L.1484820$pI23.508783@fx07.ams1>:
On 23/10/2022 23:38, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:31:51 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<thj5L.1194758$G_96.994168@fx13.ams1>:
On 23/10/2022 23:26, Snit wrote:
On Oct 23, 2022 at 3:20:55 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<d7j5L.1484818$pI23.1210950@fx07.ams1>:
Who says they never do?<font color="#000000">...</font>
I've used Disk Drill to recover data.
From an erased disk, and complete working executables? Unlikely. >>>>>>>> Malware on an already active system has no need to recover anything >>>>>>>> from an erased disk.
Apple computer don't GET malware according to folk posting on the ASC! >>>>>>
You must ask for yourself on the ASC forums, Snit.
So they have not said it?
Read here, please!
Old Toad has replied to your question. You can view the full discussion
in Communities.
Deleting files - is this true?
Both of the sites you've linked to are selling tools. There is no reason >>> to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing",
"speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac. This
documents describe what you need to know and do in order to protect your >>> Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple
Community and Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support
calls, and other scams - Apple Support.
Noting you can get malware.
Is there anyone saying Macs never get malware?
There are no known viruses, i.e. self propagating, for Macs. There are, >>> however, adware and malware which require the user to install although
unwittingly most of the time thru sneaky links, etc.
Anti Virus developers try to group all types as viruses into their ad
campaigns of fear. They do a poor job of the detecting and isolating
the adware and malware. Since there are no viruses these apps use up a
lot of system resources searching for what is non-existent and adversely >>> affect system and app performance.
There is one app, Malwarebytes, which was developed by a long time
contributor to these forums and a highly respected member of the
computer security community, that is designed solely to seek out adware
and known malware and remove it. The free version is more than adequate >>> for most users.
https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/1fdc696a-7e17-4ca6-a643-8bb4dcbb13c9
Please post a link to your question.
*HOW* does ETRECHECK remove malware as stated here:-
https://etrecheck.com/en/features.html
I have barely used it... but if like most it finds files with malware and >>>> gives you the option to deal with it.
That doesn't quite read right, sir!
Not sure what you are asking.
Does the free EtreCheck programme find any malware on YOUR computer?
D.
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