Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as my TM
for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM refused to backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
Anything else I can try?
Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as my TM
for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM refused to backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
Anything else I can try?
Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as my TM
for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM refused to backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
Anything else I can try?
Am 18.11.22 um 16:35 schrieb Graham J:
The USB cables to the external disk can fail - either their connectors
or the socket in the HDD itself. USB really isn't any good for more
than about 10 connect/disconnect cycles per year,
I hardly ever read such a bullshit.
In article <tl81qd$2umhg$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as my TM
for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM refused to
backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous
issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
sounds like it.
Anything else I can try?
what does smart status say (in disk utility)?
note that the drive could
be bad even if smart status says there are no problems, in which case
there are third party tools to get more detailed information.
what does smart status say (in disk utility)?
"not supported"
note that the drive could
be bad even if smart status says there are no problems, in which case
there are third party tools to get more detailed information.
Can't be bothered with that. Time to get a new disk.
Pretty much all my files are sync'd to the cloud as well, so it's not critical.
On 18/11/2022 15:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 18.11.22 um 16:35 schrieb Graham J:
The USB cables to the external disk can fail - either their connectors
or the socket in the HDD itself. USB really isn't any good for more
than about 10 connect/disconnect cycles per year,
I hardly ever read such a bullshit.
10 per year does sound a little on the low side.
The USB cables to the external disk can fail - either their connectors
or the socket in the HDD itself. USB really isn't any good for more
than about 10 connect/disconnect cycles per year,
On 18/11/2022 15:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 18.11.22 um 16:35 schrieb Graham J:
The USB cables to the external disk can fail - either their connectors
or the socket in the HDD itself. USB really isn't any good for more
than about 10 connect/disconnect cycles per year,
I hardly ever read such a bullshit.
10 per year does sound a little on the low side.
Chris Ridd wrote:
On 18/11/2022 15:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 18.11.22 um 16:35 schrieb Graham J:
The USB cables to the external disk can fail - either their connectors >>>> or the socket in the HDD itself. USB really isn't any good for more
than about 10 connect/disconnect cycles per year,
I hardly ever read such a bullshit.
10 per year does sound a little on the low side.
That's what I would have thought until I saw real users unplugging them!
Chris wrote:
Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as my TM
for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM refused to
backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous
issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
Anything else I can try?
The USB cables to the external disk can fail - either their connectors
or the socket in the HDD itself. USB really isn't any good for more
than about 10 connect/disconnect cycles per year, especially with
ordinary users. Much better to use a NAS and replace the RJ45 cable
when necessary.
On 18/11/2022 14:08, nospam wrote:
In article <tl81qd$2umhg$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as my TM >>> for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM refused to >>> backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous
issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the
mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
sounds like it.
Anything else I can try?
what does smart status say (in disk utility)?
"not supported"
note that the drive could
be bad even if smart status says there are no problems, in which case
there are third party tools to get more detailed information.
Can't be bothered with that. Time to get a new disk.
Pretty much all my files are sync'd to the cloud as well, so it's not critical.
Try this:
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx
I've been using that for years now, and it's saved me from a few drive failures before I lost any data. Works on all USB and FW drives I've
attached so far.
Try this:
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx
I've been using that for years now, and it's saved me from a few drive failures before I lost any data. Works on all USB and FW drives I've
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
Try this:
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx
I've been using that for years now, and it's saved me from a few drive
failures before I lost any data. Works on all USB and FW drives I've
I’d forgotten about DriveDX! I’ve used it successfully in the past but let
it get lost during numerous macOS uplifts. Not too pricey too.
Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as my TM
for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM refused to backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
Anything else I can try?
Chris wrote:
Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as my TM for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM refused to backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
Anything else I can try?
The USB cables to the external disk can fail - either their connectors
or the socket in the HDD itself. USB really isn't any good for more
than about 10 connect/disconnect cycles per year, especially with
ordinary users. Much better to use a NAS and replace the RJ45 cable
when necessary.
On 19/11/2022 06:23, Andy Hewitt wrote:
Try this:
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx
I've been using that for years now, and it's saved me from a few drive
failures before I lost any data. Works on all USB and FW drives I've
attached so far.
LICENSE
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a non-exclusive right to use the Software under the terms of this EULA.
The Software is protected by copyright laws and international copyright treaties, as well as other intellectual property laws and treaties. BinaryFruit reserves all rights not expressly granted to You.
BinaryFruit retains the ownership of the copyright in and to the Software.
Ref: https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx/eula
=
Exactly who is/are "Binary Fruit"?
Are they on 'our' side ...... or are they the enemy?
This is a serious question.
Exactly who is/are "Binary Fruit"?
Are they on 'our' side ...... or are they the enemy?
This is a serious question.
On 2022-11-19, David Brooks <DavidB@lways.invalid> wrote:
On 19/11/2022 06:23, Andy Hewitt wrote:
Try this:
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx
I've been using that for years now, and it's saved me from a few drive
failures before I lost any data. Works on all USB and FW drives I've
attached so far.
LICENSE
BinaryFruit as the licensor, grants, not sells to you, as the licensee,
a non-exclusive right to use the Software under the terms of this EULA.
The Software is protected by copyright laws and international copyright
treaties, as well as other intellectual property laws and treaties.
BinaryFruit reserves all rights not expressly granted to You.
BinaryFruit retains the ownership of the copyright in and to the Software. >>
Ref: https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx/eula
=
Exactly who is/are "Binary Fruit"?
Are they on 'our' side ...... or are they the enemy?
This is a serious question.
We know ;)
On 18/11/2022 15:41, Chris wrote:
On 18/11/2022 14:08, nospam wrote:
In article <tl81qd$2umhg$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
Been using an spinny external HDD - connected via a USB-C hub - as
my TM
for the last 18 months with more or less no problems. Until this week
where backup runs kept failing due to some Firefox cache files not
working (I forget the exact message). After a few attempts TM
refused to
backup.
Following a reboot of both the mac and the hub which has fixed previous >>>> issues. No joy. Disk Utility crashes or is very, very slow to
acknowledge the drives existence even when connected directly to the
mac.
Currently, trying a First Aid on it, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything at all, despite "Running..."
Dead drive?
sounds like it.
Anything else I can try?
what does smart status say (in disk utility)?
"not supported"
Try this:
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx
I've been using that for years now, and it's saved me from a few drive failures before I lost any data. Works on all USB and FW drives I've
attached so far.
Or just this, if you prefer to use other methods to read the data:
https://github.com/kasbert/OS-X-SAT-SMART-Driver
note that the drive could
be bad even if smart status says there are no problems, in which case
there are third party tools to get more detailed information.
Can't be bothered with that. Time to get a new disk.
Pretty much all my files are sync'd to the cloud as well, so it's not
critical.
Yeah, it could be the easiest solution, although the above might
indicate if it's a connectivity issue too - I recently had this, which
turned out I needed to switch USB connections, rather than change the
drive (which of course wouldn't have fixed the issue).
Maybe I should warn Binary Fruit about who you are and what you are about
to do to them.
Seriously, I was exaggerating - a bit - for effect. But I have seen USB disks used for daily backup, where they are unplugged and taken off-site every night. The connectors on the USB disks last about a year - so
about 300 connect/disconnect cycles - whoever reckoned they're tested
for thousands is very wrong.
The USB cables to the external disk can fail - either their connectors
or the socket in the HDD itself. USB really isn't any good for more
than about 10 connect/disconnect cycles per year, especially with
ordinary users. Much better to use a NAS and replace the RJ45 cable
when necessary.
So I should have expected my iPad to be dead after two weeks of use?
On 19/11/2022 06:23, Andy Hewitt wrote:
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx
I've been using that for years now, and it's saved me from a few drive
failures before I lost any data. Works on all USB and FW drives I've
attached so far.
Thanks!
Tried it just now and all the SMART data looks excellent; nothing less
than 97% healthy.
However, a short test wouldn't go beyond 90%. Aborted after ~45 minutes. Clearly something up with the disk.
Or just this, if you prefer to use other methods to read the data:
https://github.com/kasbert/OS-X-SAT-SMART-Driver
note that the drive could
be bad even if smart status says there are no problems, in which case
there are third party tools to get more detailed information.
Can't be bothered with that. Time to get a new disk.
Pretty much all my files are sync'd to the cloud as well, so it's not
critical.
Yeah, it could be the easiest solution, although the above might
indicate if it's a connectivity issue too - I recently had this, which
turned out I needed to switch USB connections, rather than change the
drive (which of course wouldn't have fixed the issue).
Now running TM on the new disk. Might take a few hours...
On 19/11/2022 14:47, Bob Campbell wrote:
<Snip lies>
Maybe I should warn Binary Fruit about who you are and what you are about
to do to them.
If you provide their postal address and 'phone number, I'll contact them myself.
David G. Brooks <DavidB@always.invalid> wrote:
On 19/11/2022 14:47, Bob Campbell wrote:
<Snip lies>
Maybe I should warn Binary Fruit about who you are and what you are about >>> to do to them.
If you provide their postal address and 'phone number, I'll contact them
myself.
Yes, I’m sure you would.
But no, I don’t want to be an accessory to your internet stalking. I’ll just warn them to ignore you.
On 20/11/2022 14:19, Bob Campbell wrote:
David G. Brooks <DavidB@always.invalid> wrote:
On 19/11/2022 14:47, Bob Campbell wrote:
<Snip lies>
Maybe I should warn Binary Fruit about who you are and what you are
about
to do to them.
If you provide their postal address and 'phone number, I'll contact them >>> myself.
Yes, I’m sure you would.
But no, I don’t want to be an accessory to your internet stalking. I’ll
just warn them to ignore you.
Just *HOW* will you contact them, Bob?
I'm sure other readers would like to know too.
Thanks.
On 20/11/2022 14:19, Bob Campbell wrote:
David G. Brooks <DavidB@always.invalid> wrote:
On 19/11/2022 14:47, Bob Campbell wrote:
<Snip lies>
Maybe I should warn Binary Fruit about who you are and what you are about >>>> to do to them.
If you provide their postal address and 'phone number, I'll contact them >>> myself.
Yes, I’m sure you would.
But no, I don’t want to be an accessory to your internet stalking. I’ll
just warn them to ignore you.
Just *HOW* will you contact them, Bob?
I'm sure other readers would like to know too.
David G. Brooks <DavidB@always.invalid> wrote:
On 20/11/2022 14:19, Bob Campbell wrote:
David G. Brooks <DavidB@always.invalid> wrote:
On 19/11/2022 14:47, Bob Campbell wrote:
<Snip lies>
Maybe I should warn Binary Fruit about who you are and what you are about >>>>> to do to them.
If you provide their postal address and 'phone number, I'll contact them >>>> myself.
Yes, I’m sure you would.
But no, I don’t want to be an accessory to your internet stalking. I’ll
just warn them to ignore you.
Just *HOW* will you contact them, Bob?
I'm sure other readers would like to know too.
No, only you want to know.
Binary Fruit has been warned about you. Its SO nice of you to publicly
post your stalking activities here for all to see. Remember Mark Read?
He VERY quickly dropped all contact with you after *I LIED TO HIM*.
I understand your dilemma. You didn't *actually* contact them!
Binary Fruit has been warned about you. Its SO nice of you to publicly
post your stalking activities here for all to see. Remember Mark Read?
He VERY quickly dropped all contact with you after I warned him.
I hope you feel better about yourself now.
Sad. :-(
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