https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

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On 25/11/2022 22:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

Those stats are out of date.

I'm using macOS Ventura 13.0.1 - this doesn't even get a mention!

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On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 22:32:27 -0000, David G. Brooks <DavidB@always.invalid> wrote:

On 25/11/2022 22:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

Those stats are out of date.

I'm using macOS Ventura 13.0.1 - this doesn't even get a mention!

Those stats are for 1 year, ending Oct this year.

Your Ventura is just a newer OSX.

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On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 22:35:05 -0000, TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

On 25 Nov 2022 at 22:27:04 GMT, "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

Since it doesn't show Monterey or Ventura, and the site is fucked, we can safely ignore this (I would have done anyway).

You sound like these Yankee fundies who, on finding something a bit interesting in nature, bleat on about how this shows that "Darwin is in trouble".

As I just told David, they will have lumped all Mac OS into "OSX" and all versions of Windows into "Windows".

Just because Apple choose to use silly little childish girly names for their versions doesn't make them a different OS.

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On 25 Nov 2022 at 22:27:04 GMT, "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

Since it doesn't show Monterey or Ventura, and the site is fucked, we can safely ignore this (I would have done anyway).

You sound like these Yankee fundies who, on finding something a bit
interesting in nature, bleat on about how this shows that "Darwin is in trouble".

--
Tim

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In article <op.1v7nbeg3mvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

apple doesn't chase market share, and os stats are not indicative as to
the state of the industry.

currently, apple is valued at about $2.4 trillion, the highest market
cap of any public company, so clearly they're doing something right.

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In article <op.1v7ntrrimvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Just because Apple choose to use silly little childish girly names for their versions doesn't make them a different OS.

cheetah, tiger, leopard, lion, el capitan, big sur are definitely *not*
'girly names'.

to be fair, sierra is indeed a girl's name, and when greeting her, one
would likely say, hi(gh) sierra.

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On 25/11/2022 22:43, nospam wrote:

In article <op.1v7nbeg3mvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

apple doesn't chase market share, and os stats are not indicative as to
the state of the industry.

currently, apple is valued at about $2.4 trillion, the highest market
cap of any public company, so clearly they're doing something right.

Definitely, they're pissing off lots of idiots for starters.

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Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

Actually it looks pretty good to me:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-states-of-america

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-states-of-america

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On Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:08:08 -0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

Actually it looks pretty good to me:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-states-of-america

2.42 times as many Windows machines. So not good for Apple.

And interesting you narrowed it down to the USA, where people have more money and less IQ.

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-states-of-america

You just carry on spending $1000 on what I can get for $100. Your country is not right in the head. By the way Russia is a much bigger land mass than you. I hope Putin kills every last one of you.

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Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:08:08 -0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

Actually it looks pretty good to me:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-states-of-america

2.42 times as many Windows machines. So not good for Apple.

And dropping. I remember when it was 95% Windows, 4% Mac and 1% Linux.
Not to mention that the entire Windows PC market was down 15% - 20% in the
last quarter (depending on whose numbers you believe), while Mac was way
up.

So, VERY good for Apple.

And interesting you narrowed it down to the USA, where people have more money and less IQ.

Wow. That’s some real, first class trolling there. 🙄

You just carry on spending $1000 on what I can get for $100. Your
country is not right in the head.

Even more absurd trolling.

By the way Russia is a much bigger land mass than you. I hope Putin kills
every last one of you.

What does land mass have to do with anything?

Not to mention that Putin can’t even conquer Ukraine. No one is scared of him.

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On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 03:59:47 -0000, Bob Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:08:08 -0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

Doesn't look good for Apple.

Actually it looks pretty good to me:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-states-of-america >>

2.42 times as many Windows machines. So not good for Apple.

And dropping. I remember when it was 95% Windows, 4% Mac and 1% Linux.
Not to mention that the entire Windows PC market was down 15% - 20% in the last quarter (depending on whose numbers you believe), while Mac was way
up.

So, VERY good for Apple.

It's all Americans with more money than sense.

And interesting you narrowed it down to the USA, where people have more money and less IQ.

Wow. That’s some real, first class trolling there. 🙄

No, a statement of two well established facts.

You just carry on spending $1000 on what I can get for $100. Your
country is not right in the head.

Even more absurd trolling.

Again, a statement of fact. Go compare an Apple with a PC of the same specs. Now factor in you're using something with more apps available, and a bigger user base.

By the way Russia is a much bigger land mass than you. I hope Putin kills >> every last one of you.

What does land mass have to do with anything?

More space for resources, which is why he can hold the world to ransom with gas supplies. And why he wants Ukraine, for their resources.

Not to mention that Putin can’t even conquer Ukraine. No one is scared of him.

He's mad a damn good mess of it. I don't see the Ukraine breaking anything in Russia's land. That's about 57 nil so far.

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In article <op.1wa2tlt9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

And dropping. I remember when it was 95% Windows, 4% Mac and 1% Linux. Not to mention that the entire Windows PC market was down 15% - 20% in the last quarter (depending on whose numbers you believe), while Mac was way up.

So, VERY good for Apple.

It's all Americans with more money than sense.

apple sells more *outside* america than within.

You just carry on spending $1000 on what I can get for $100. Your
country is not right in the head.

Even more absurd trolling.

Again, a statement of fact.

your claim is beyond absurd.

a new m1 macbook air is $1000.

where is this mythical pc laptop for $100 that can do everything the
macbook air can, as fast as the macbook can, with as good battery run
time?

Go compare an Apple with a PC of the same specs.

and you'll find that prices are similar, often less.

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On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 22:46:32 -0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It's all Americans with more money than sense.

Explain it away however you like. Whatever makes you feel better.

The fact is, Apple is doing very well. Why that bothers you is the only real mystery here.

Because they've made an incompatible piece of equipment, redesigned for no good reason, which costs more to buy. It has caused people to waste time their entire lives making the two speak to each other. Hell, they even screwed up bluetooth, their
phones don't use the standard and can't speak to any others!

This is a car made by Apple. Says it all really. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7usd9p4g2ljjxvq/9eHIv.png?dl=0

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <op.1wa2tlt9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

And dropping. I remember when it was 95% Windows, 4% Mac and 1% Linux. >>> Not to mention that the entire Windows PC market was down 15% - 20% in the >>> last quarter (depending on whose numbers you believe), while Mac was way >>> up.

So, VERY good for Apple.

It's all Americans with more money than sense.

apple sells more *outside* america than within.

No fair using facts on the trolls.

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Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It's all Americans with more money than sense.

Explain it away however you like. Whatever makes you feel better.

The fact is, Apple is doing very well. Why that bothers you is the only
real mystery here.

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In article <op.1wbeltktmvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

The fact is, Apple is doing very well. Why that bothers you is the only real mystery here.

Because they've made an incompatible piece of equipment,

no they haven't. their products are actually more standards compliant
than from other makers.

one example, only apple macbooks and google pixels can charge from
*any* usb-c charger, while others do not, the worst being an hp
spectre, which requires an hp charger, despite everything being usb-c: <https://images.techhive.com/images/article/2016/03/usb_c_laptop_chartin g-100649896-orig.png>

redesigned for no
good reason, which costs more to buy.

nope.

It has caused people to waste time
their entire lives making the two speak to each other.

waste what time? connect and it works.

Hell, they even
screwed up bluetooth, their phones don't use the standard and can't speak to any others!

rubbish. macs and iphones use standard bluetooth and connects to any
other standard bluetooth devices, including headsets, keyboards,
phones, smartwatches, iot devices and much more.

This is a car made by Apple.

apple doesn't make a car.

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 00:29:19 -0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Because they've made an incompatible piece of equipment, redesigned for
no good reason, which costs more to buy. It has caused people to waste
time their entire lives making the two speak to each other. Hell, they
even screwed up bluetooth, their phones don't use the standard and can't
speak to any others!

What a total load of bullshit.

As with all trolls, you know nothing of what you troll about. You should actually use an iPhone for a while before making up absurd lies about the “incompatible Bluetooth”. I have no trouble connecting to anything.

I have Android, my Aunt has Iphone. They DO NOT connect. I googled it, you have to install a special app on both to translate. This is an undeniable fact backed up by a simple google search.

I have Macs, Windows and the occasional Linux box here. They all talk to each other.

With difficulty. The older macs were even worse with that resource fork shit on every file. Store mac file on PC, copy it back, can't open it. Doh! We had to install special software on the PC servers to let the Macs understand them.

MacOS and iOS are Unix. Unix/Linux runs on everything from mainframes to
PCs to all phones, tablets and watches. Because Unix is portable and modular.

And useless shit for geeks.

The “incompatible” part is Windows. Which is - as we speak - losing market
share. Because it is neither portable nor modular.

It's the most common, therefore anyone not compatible with it is their fault, not Windows.

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Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Because they've made an incompatible piece of equipment, redesigned for
no good reason, which costs more to buy. It has caused people to waste
time their entire lives making the two speak to each other. Hell, they
even screwed up bluetooth, their phones don't use the standard and can't speak to any others!

What a total load of bullshit.

As with all trolls, you know nothing of what you troll about. You should actually use an iPhone for a while before making up absurd lies about the “incompatible Bluetooth”. I have no trouble connecting to anything.

I have Macs, Windows and the occasional Linux box here. They all talk to
each other.

MacOS and iOS are Unix. Unix/Linux runs on everything from mainframes to
PCs to all phones, tablets and watches. Because Unix is portable and
modular.

The “incompatible” part is Windows. Which is - as we speak - losing market share. Because it is neither portable nor modular.

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 00:29:19 -0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Because they've made an incompatible piece of equipment, redesigned for
no good reason, which costs more to buy. It has caused people to waste
time their entire lives making the two speak to each other. Hell, they
even screwed up bluetooth, their phones don't use the standard and can't
speak to any others!

What a total load of bullshit.

As with all trolls, you know nothing of what you troll about. You should actually use an iPhone for a while before making up absurd lies about the “incompatible Bluetooth”. I have no trouble connecting to anything.

I have Macs, Windows and the occasional Linux box here. They all talk to each other.

MacOS and iOS are Unix. Unix/Linux runs on everything from mainframes to
PCs to all phones, tablets and watches. Because Unix is portable and modular.

The “incompatible” part is Windows. Which is - as we speak - losing market
share. Because it is neither portable nor modular.

If two things do not speak to each other, the only reason you can say one is incompatible is because it's the least common. Say there are 100 engineers in a room, 80 of them decide to do something one way, 20 decide another way. If you want to make all
their work compatible, you change the 20 not the 80.

Windows will alway win, because Windows runs on any piece of hardware. MacOS only runs (apart from when I Hackintosh it) on Apple hardware. So that's one company versus a hundred. Are Apple going to beat Dell and every other PC hardware maker in the
world? Not a chance.

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In article <op.1wbioit9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Because they've made an incompatible piece of equipment, redesigned for
no good reason, which costs more to buy. It has caused people to waste
time their entire lives making the two speak to each other. Hell, they
even screwed up bluetooth, their phones don't use the standard and can't >> speak to any others!

What a total load of bullshit.

As with all trolls, you know nothing of what you troll about. You should actually use an iPhone for a while before making up absurd lies about the �incompatible Bluetooth�. I have no trouble connecting to anything.

I have Android, my Aunt has Iphone. They DO NOT connect. I googled it, you have to install a special app on both to translate.

rubbish.

This is an undeniable
fact backed up by a simple google search.

a 'simple google search' shows that the earth is flat.

I have Macs, Windows and the occasional Linux box here. They all talk to each other.

With difficulty.

if by 'difficultly', you mean figuring out which way to orient the
ethernet cable or usb-a cable.

The older macs were even worse with that resource fork shit
on every file.

that was 30 years ago and was an idea well ahead of its time, something
which microsoft actually copied for windows (but didn't do a very good
job).

Store mac file on PC, copy it back, can't open it. Doh!

there is no such thing as a 'mac file'.

We
had to install special software on the PC servers to let the Macs understand them.

no special software is needed.

The �incompatible� part is Windows. Which is - as we speak - losing market share. Because it is neither portable nor modular.

It's the most common, therefore anyone not compatible with it is their fault, not Windows.

nope. windows breaks industry standards to lock-in users.

one of the most notable examples was internet explorer, which had
proprietary extensions to html that only worked with their servers.

another example was wma/wmv, microsoft proprietary media formats, which
they refused to license to others. the formats were eventually reverse engineered but not perfectly.

many more examples exist.

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Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Windows will alway win, because Windows runs on any piece of hardware.
MacOS only runs (apart from when I Hackintosh it) on Apple hardware.

Windows already lost. Unix won. Windows only runs on PCs. Unix runs on everything from mainframes to watches and everything in between.

Even MS Azure is 70% Linux. Windows is dying. Why do you suppose that Microsoft is desperately trying to prop up Windows by giving it the ability
to run Linux and Android apps? They can see where everything is going.

I also see more Macs (Unix again) on desks where I work then ever before.

So that's one company versus a hundred. Are Apple going to beat Dell and
every other PC hardware maker in the world? Not a chance.

Apple is already beating most PC vendors. Apple is now in 3rd place (or
4th depending on whose numbers you believe). Try keeping up so you are not spouting 20 year old “facts”.

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 02:06:01 -0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Windows will alway win, because Windows runs on any piece of hardware.
MacOS only runs (apart from when I Hackintosh it) on Apple hardware.

Windows already lost. Unix won.

Fuck all people run that.

Windows only runs on PCs. Unix runs on
everything from mainframes to watches and everything in between.

I'm not interested in the OS on my watch.

Even MS Azure is 70% Linux. Windows is dying. Why do you suppose that Microsoft is desperately trying to prop up Windows by giving it the ability to run Linux and Android apps? They can see where everything is going.

Dying, yet has the biggest market share and always has. It runs on any computer, MacOS only runs on Macs.

I also see more Macs (Unix again) on desks where I work then ever before.

Some business owners are clueless. I delieghted in converting two companies from Mac to PC. Guess what, they loved it! Easier to use, far more intuitive, compatible with the rest of the world, and half the cost!

So that's one company versus a hundred. Are Apple going to beat Dell and
every other PC hardware maker in the world? Not a chance.

Apple is already beating most PC vendors. Apple is now in 3rd place (or
4th depending on whose numbers you believe). Try keeping up so you are not spouting 20 year old “facts”.

Apple is one, the other vendors are many. If it beats one, it has not won.

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 02:06:01 -0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Windows will alway win, because Windows runs on any piece of hardware.
MacOS only runs (apart from when I Hackintosh it) on Apple hardware.

Windows already lost. Unix won.

Windows only runs on PCs. Unix runs on
everything from mainframes to watches and everything in between.

Even MS Azure is 70% Linux. Windows is dying. Why do you suppose that Microsoft is desperately trying to prop up Windows by giving it the ability to run Linux and Android apps? They can see where everything is going.

I also see more Macs (Unix again) on desks where I work then ever before.

An Iphone can't run asteroid searches, an Android can: https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/apps.php
An Iphone can't run binary pulsar searches, an Android can: https://einsteinathome.org/apps.php
An Iphone can't run subatomic particle calculations, an Android can: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/apps.php
An Iphone can't run vaccine research, an Android can: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/apps.php
An Iphone can't run black hole searches, an Android can, even a full Apple desktop won't run it yet Windows can: https://universeathome.pl/universe/apps.php

Why change the OS so programmers have to redesign? Stop reinventing the wheel. Use Windows or Linux on your Apples, don't make a third OS! In fact none of the above have managed to get an Iphone to run their programs at all. Apple's shitty OS
prevents it. Maybe an Iphone would burn out if it did calculations 24/7 on all cores like my Androids do. Why buy an overpriced phone and not make full use of it? It's sat on your desk idling! All that processing power wasted. Maybe the battery
would go flat? My Aunt's Iphone has the same specs and same battery size as my Android, yet her battery drained at twice the speed when we went out taking photos, despite me taking 3 times the photos she did.

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In article <op.1weremrimvhs6z@ryzen.home>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

An Iphone can't run asteroid searches, an Android can:

yawn. no device runs everything.

android devices can't run a bunch of stuff ios can. windows can't run a
bunch of stuff macs can run.

plus the apps you list run on windows and mac, where it's better suited
since it is something stays running. doing that on a phone is just
dumb.

Why change the OS so programmers have to redesign?

you've clearly never written an app, for any platform.

Stop reinventing the
wheel. Use Windows or Linux on your Apples, don't make a third OS!

tell that to google. although android uses a linux kernel, it does
*not* use linux apis for apps.

windows apps have to be updated for newer versions. there's a lot of
new stuff in win 10 than there was in xp and 7.

In fact
none of the above have managed to get an Iphone to run their programs at all. Apple's shitty OS prevents it.

nope. nothing apple has done prevents any of the apps you listed from
working on an ios device.

the decision is entirely up to developers to write an ios version, and
since there is a mac os version, there should be minimal effort for
creating an ios version. in fact, it's easy to write an app to run on
both mac *and* ios.

Maybe an Iphone would burn out if it did
calculations 24/7 on all cores like my Androids do.

likely not. you have previously stated you buy cheap noname android
phones.

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On 29 Nov 2022 at 18:38:36 GMT, ""Commander Kinsey"" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Why change the OS so programmers have to redesign? Stop reinventing the wheel.

Quite right. How about you go back in time and tell that to Microsoft in the late 80s, so that they just copy macOS as it was then rather than releasing joke versions of Windows for the next 10 years.

--
Tim

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On 29 Nov 2022 at 20:16:52 GMT, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <jun4mjFtg72U1@mid.individual.net>, TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

On 29 Nov 2022 at 18:38:36 GMT, ""Commander Kinsey"" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote: >>> Why change the OS so programmers have to redesign? Stop reinventing the >>> wheel.

Quite right. How about you go back in time and tell that to Microsoft in the >> late 80s, so that they just copy macOS as it was then rather than releasing >> joke versions of Windows for the next 10 years.

and then jump ahead and tell google to just copy ios rather than create android.

TBF, that was what they *tried* to do.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"The more wrong a guy gets, the louder he yells at the person
trying to help him. Which, inevitably, makes him even
wronger. But less helped."
-- Merlin Mann

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In article <jun4mjFtg72U1@mid.individual.net>, TimS
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

On 29 Nov 2022 at 18:38:36 GMT, ""Commander Kinsey"" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Why change the OS so programmers have to redesign? Stop reinventing the wheel.

Quite right. How about you go back in time and tell that to Microsoft in the late 80s, so that they just copy macOS as it was then rather than releasing joke versions of Windows for the next 10 years.

and then jump ahead and tell google to just copy ios rather than create android.

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On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 19:26:11 -0000, TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

On 29 Nov 2022 at 18:38:36 GMT, ""Commander Kinsey"" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Why change the OS so programmers have to redesign? Stop reinventing the wheel.

Quite right. How about you go back in time and tell that to Microsoft in the late 80s, so that they just copy macOS as it was then rather than releasing joke versions of Windows for the next 10 years.

Windows produced the taskbar and start menu first, perfectly. What came later from both sides was shit.

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In article <jun922Fu4edU1@mid.individual.net>, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 29 Nov 2022 at 18:38:36 GMT, ""Commander Kinsey"" <CK1@nospam.com>
wrote:

Why change the OS so programmers have to redesign? Stop reinventing the >>> wheel.

Quite right. How about you go back in time and tell that to Microsoft in >> the
late 80s, so that they just copy macOS as it was then rather than releasing
joke versions of Windows for the next 10 years.

and then jump ahead and tell google to just copy ios rather than create android.

TBF, that was what they *tried* to do.

both tried.

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Poor market share can be a major challenge for businesses https://www.thenewsontime.com/business/, but it's important to remember that it's not the end of the road. While it can be disheartening to see competitors taking a larger piece of the pie, there
are steps that businesses can take to improve their market share over time.

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On Tuesday, 21 March 2023 at 11:28:19 UTC, Greyson Milo wrote:

Poor market share can be a major challenge for businesses https://www.thenewsontime.com/business/, but it's important to remember that it's not the end of the road. While it can be disheartening to see competitors taking a larger piece of the pie,

there are steps that businesses can take to improve their market share over time.

Businesses only need to worry about their market share when they rely on market share to make a profit.
You don't see companies like lamborghini, Porsche, Ferrari, cartier, Gucci and Hermès (hand bags) , louis vuitton running around panicking that they haven't got 50%+ market share.

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