I'm having to switch to Mac Mail because the university has been
somehow persuaded to use Microsoft Exchange and the mail software I
was using doesn't support OAuth2.
How do spam filtering and rules work when you use two different Macs
to look at your mail? Does each apply its rules to all the incoming
mail?
For example, if on one Mac I have a bunch of rules to put mailing
lists in separate mailboxes, and on the other I have no rules,
will the messages sit in my inbox until the Mac with the rules
is turned on, and them magically get sorted as seen by both?
I'm having to switch to Mac Mail because the university has been
somehow persuaded to use Microsoft Exchange and the mail software I
was using doesn't support OAuth2.
How do spam filtering and rules work when you use two different Macs
to look at your mail? Does each apply its rules to all the incoming
mail?
For example, if on one Mac I have a bunch of rules to put mailing
lists in separate mailboxes, and on the other I have no rules,
will the messages sit in my inbox until the Mac with the rules
is turned on, and them magically get sorted as seen by both?
TimS wrote:
On 01 Dec 2022 at 17:34:29 GMT, "Richard Tobin" <Richard Tobin> wrote:
I'm having to switch to Mac Mail because the university has been
somehow persuaded to use Microsoft Exchange and the mail software I
was using doesn't support OAuth2.
How do spam filtering and rules work when you use two different Macs
to look at your mail? Does each apply its rules to all the incoming
mail?
For example, if on one Mac I have a bunch of rules to put mailing
lists in separate mailboxes, and on the other I have no rules,
will the messages sit in my inbox until the Mac with the rules
is turned on, and them magically get sorted as seen by both?
Are you going to be using IMAP or POP3 ?
Probably neither - it will be the MS proprietary Exchange prototcol
which behaves a bit like IMAP in that the client views and manages the mailbox on the server. So the user would see the same mailbox view regardless of whether the platform is a Mac or PC
On 01 Dec 2022 at 17:34:29 GMT, "Richard Tobin" <Richard Tobin> wrote:
I'm having to switch to Mac Mail because the university has been
somehow persuaded to use Microsoft Exchange and the mail software I
was using doesn't support OAuth2.
How do spam filtering and rules work when you use two different Macs
to look at your mail? Does each apply its rules to all the incoming
mail?
For example, if on one Mac I have a bunch of rules to put mailing
lists in separate mailboxes, and on the other I have no rules,
will the messages sit in my inbox until the Mac with the rules
is turned on, and them magically get sorted as seen by both?
Are you going to be using IMAP or POP3 ?
Are you going to be using IMAP or POP3 ?
In article <jus8vjFmtvlU1@mid.individual.net>,
TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
Are you going to be using IMAP or POP3 ?
When I added the new account to Mac Mail I selected Microsoft
Exchange, and it didn't offer me a choice of protocols. Presumably it
uses either IMAP or Microsoft's own protocol.
On 01 Dec 2022 at 18:47:33 GMT, "Graham J" <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Probably neither - it will be the MS proprietary Exchange prototcol
which behaves a bit like IMAP in that the client views and manages the
mailbox on the server. So the user would see the same mailbox view
regardless of whether the platform is a Mac or PC
Apple Mail supports all this, does it? Sounds like the mailboxes are on the server à la IMAP in which case I would expect that to be where the rules are.
But I've never used it so ...
Incidentally, Mail currently says "Downloading Messages 968,864 of
978,464" which cannot possibly be right.
Incidentally, Mail currently says "Downloading Messages 968,864 of
978,464" which cannot possibly be right.
Not necesarily wrong.
I'm having to switch to Mac Mail because the university has been
somehow persuaded to use Microsoft Exchange and the mail software I
was using doesn't support OAuth2.
How do spam filtering and rules work when you use two different Macs
to look at your mail? Does each apply its rules to all the incoming
mail?
For example, if on one Mac I have a bunch of rules to put mailing
lists in separate mailboxes, and on the other I have no rules,
will the messages sit in my inbox until the Mac with the rules
is turned on, and them magically get sorted as seen by both?
I'm having to switch to Mac Mail because the university has been
somehow persuaded to use Microsoft Exchange and the mail software I
was using doesn't support OAuth2.
How do spam filtering and rules work when you use two different Macs
to look at your mail? Does each apply its rules to all the incoming
mail?
For example, if on one Mac I have a bunch of rules to put mailing
lists in separate mailboxes, and on the other I have no rules,
will the messages sit in my inbox until the Mac with the rules
is turned on, and them magically get sorted as seen by both?
In article <tmb3e9$2s8gk$1@dont-email.me>,
Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Incidentally, Mail currently says "Downloading Messages 968,864 of
978,464" which cannot possibly be right.
Not necesarily wrong.
I certainly haven't received a million messages since the university
started using this system. It's now finished and there seem to be
about 73,000 messages which sounds about right. It's now taking a
long time to delete almost all of them.
Just use Outlook? Integrates well with Exchange and all rules are server-side.
On 1 Dec 2022 at 17:34:29 GMT, "Richard Tobin" <Richard Tobin> wrote:
I'm having to switch to Mac Mail because the university has been
somehow persuaded to use Microsoft Exchange and the mail software I
was using doesn't support OAuth2.
How do spam filtering and rules work when you use two different Macs
to look at your mail? Does each apply its rules to all the incoming
mail?
For example, if on one Mac I have a bunch of rules to put mailing
lists in separate mailboxes, and on the other I have no rules,
will the messages sit in my inbox until the Mac with the rules
is turned on, and them magically get sorted as seen by both?
Fraid so, yes.
Alternatively, you can have no rules on this mailbox at the Mac side,
and use the Outlook webapp to set up all your rules server side. Many of
my cow-orkers at the last job did exactly this and more, using the
webapp as their primary email interface - the Outlook webapp is more functional than the Outlook Mac client app, let alone Mail impersonating
an Exchange client.
Cheers - Jaimie
On 02 Dec 2022 at 08:44:31 GMT, David Sankey <David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
But be warned that if your University goes for Exchange in the cloud you
cannot disable server side spam filtering.
This is an absurdity, of course; the only person who knows whether a mail is spam or not is the end-user.
But be warned that if your University goes for Exchange in the cloud you cannot disable server side spam filtering.
Outlook webapp
In article <tmcbd7$1hvu4$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
I certainly haven't received a million messages since the university
started using this system. It's now finished and there seem to be
about 73,000 messages which sounds about right. It's now taking a
long time to delete almost all of them.
10s
Several hours.
I certainly haven't received a million messages since the university
started using this system. It's now finished and there seem to be
about 73,000 messages which sounds about right. It's now taking a
long time to delete almost all of them.
10s
Am 01.12.22 um 22:34 schrieb Chris:
Just use Outlook? Integrates well with Exchange and all rules are
server-side.
Not seriously on a Mac.
On 1 Dec 2022 at 17:34:29 GMT, "Richard Tobin" <Richard Tobin> wrote:
I'm having to switch to Mac Mail because the university has been
somehow persuaded to use Microsoft Exchange and the mail software I
was using doesn't support OAuth2.
How do spam filtering and rules work when you use two different Macs
to look at your mail? Does each apply its rules to all the incoming
mail?
For example, if on one Mac I have a bunch of rules to put mailing
lists in separate mailboxes, and on the other I have no rules,
will the messages sit in my inbox until the Mac with the rules
is turned on, and them magically get sorted as seen by both?
Fraid so, yes.
No. The one downloading the mails first will apply the rules. The second
one will only syncronise this state.
Alternatively, you can have no rules on this mailbox at the Mac side,
and use the Outlook webapp to set up all your rules server side.
On 2 Dec 2022, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
(in article <jut230Fqj08U1@mid.individual.net>):
Alternatively, you can have no rules on this mailbox at the Mac side,
and use the Outlook webapp to set up all your rules server side.
Are there other (commercial) server-side spam filters? There used to be, but I haven't seen or heard of them for ages.
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