Les Cargill <lcargil99@gmail.com> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why is bluetooth 5 throughput (2Mbps) much lower than data rate (48Mbps)?

I can understand a small difference, but a factor of 24?!?

Bluetooth is largely garbage. Good enough for mice and keyboards.

Well, that's what it was designed for,

Jan

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In article <1q2tkz0.1mgguvk5zetheN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>, J. J.
Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

Bluetooth is largely garbage. Good enough for mice and keyboards.

Well, that's what it was designed for,

bluetooth has come a *long* way since then, and only casually resembles
that.

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XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

Am 11.12.22 um 22:21 schrieb Commander Kinsey:

No, it's the best way to copy a photo from your phone to your PC.

Where do you live? In today's world photos and videos are mirrored
online from your smartphone to whichever cloud and then downloaded to
the computer with 1 Gigabit/s without any intervention by the user.

Fiddling around with BT or cables is very very old style.

Excessive X-posting deprecated.

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Am 11.12.22 um 23:44 schrieb nospam:

wifi is faster than gigabit now.

Not yet.

Excessive X-posting deprecated.

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <1q2tkz0.1mgguvk5zetheN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>, J. J.
Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

Bluetooth is largely garbage. Good enough for mice and keyboards.

Well, that's what it was designed for,

bluetooth has come a *long* way since then, and only casually resembles
that.

Nonsense. It is still explicitly a *slow* wireless technology,
and it is designed as such.
For fast wireless we have always had WiFi,

Jan

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In article <1q2uhvd.11s6hat1nf179cN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>, J. J.
Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

Bluetooth is largely garbage. Good enough for mice and keyboards.

Well, that's what it was designed for,

bluetooth has come a *long* way since then, and only casually resembles that.

Nonsense. It is still explicitly a *slow* wireless technology,

its much faster now, and designed for far more than just mice and
keyboards.

and it is designed as such.

nope.

For fast wireless we have always had WiFi,

for entirely different scenarios, and with a much higher power budget.

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In article <tn6pau$1vdqr$3@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:

wifi is faster than gigabit now.

Not yet.

yes yet and has been for some time, which is why many access points
have 2.5g-e (or better) wired ports.

<https://www.extremetech.com/computing/184685-what-is-802-11ax-wifi-and- do-you-really-need-a-10gbps-connection-to-your-laptop>
Let�s say we take the more conservative 4x estimate, and assume a
massive 160MHz channel. In that case, the maximum speed of a
single�802.11ax stream will be around 3.5Gbps (compared with
866Mbps for a single 802.11ac stream). Multiply that out to a 4?4
MIMO network and you get a total capacity of 14Gbps. If you had a
smartphone or laptop capable of two or three streams, you�d get
some blazing�connection speeds of 1GB per second or more.

In a more realistic setup with 80MHz channels, we�re probably
looking at a single-stream speed of around 1.6Gbps, which is still a
reasonable 200MB/sec. If your mobile device supports MIMO, you could
be seeing 400 or 600MB/sec. And in an even�more realistic setup with
40MHz channels (such as what you�d probably get in a crowded
apartment block), a single 802.11ax stream would net you 800Mbps
(100MB/sec), or a total network capacity of 3.2Gbps.

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XPost: alt.computer.workshop

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

I absolutely detest that auto synching stuff.

I love it. Totally painless photo management

I want stuff to go where I put it and to know what I'm putting where.

Me too. That it is all done automatically - using wi-fi - makes it even better.

Just because I take a photo on one device does not mean I'm going to want it on another.

I want it everywhere. As quickly as possible.

I bet you don't even know where the file is.

Of course I do.

Is it on your phone?

Yes.

Your computer?

Yes. I assume you mean Windows PC. A phone IS a computer. So is an
iPad.

Both?

Yes.

The cloud?

Yes.

All of the above?

Yes.

What if the internet goes down, where can you find the file?

Depends on when “the internet goes down”. If its before I took the pic, then it is on the iPhone/iPad/whatever I took the pic on. When the
internet connection comes back then it is everywhere.

And where is it?

Where it is supposed to be, with all my other photos.

In the same folder on both devices?

Yes. On way more than 2 devices.

What if the folder structure is different?

It’s the same. In the 21st century I no longer worry about “folder structure”.

Have you now got stuff all over your computer's disk in different places
you don't know about?

No, all in the same place.

What if you don't want another user of the computer seeing the photo you just took?

No one else uses my stuff. Everyone in this house has their own iPhone/iPad/Windows laptop. And they have all of THEIR photos on all of
THEIR stuff.

What an utter mess.

What total bliss.

Computers should never ever assume what you want to do.

No assumptions here. This is how we set it all up. None of this happens unless you set it up. So I could - assuming I wanted to - manually
transfer photos over Bluetooth. I could do it manually over USB cable
too.

But why would I want to do it manually when automatically over wi-fi is available?

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XPost: alt.computer.workshop

Am 13.12.22 um 05:55 schrieb Commander Kinsey:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 08:36:29 -0000, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Excessive X-posting deprecated.

And you've checked who is reading this in each group have you?

Why should I? *I* decide where *my* answers go. Questions?

Cross (were you really too lazy to type 4 more characters?) posting re-engaged for the benefit of those you blocked out.

As I told you: None of your business.

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XPost: alt.computer.workshop

Am 13.12.22 um 05:55 schrieb Commander Kinsey:

Why on earth would you not want to be in full control of where your stuff is? I use my computer for some things and my phone for others. I don't want all the files on both, that would be pure insanity and a complete and utter waste of disk space.

I'm more in control where my data are than you ever will be with this
very old style methods. And BTW: I'll never ever have data losses due to defects of the devices, theft or loss of the device.

And BTW: Cost of storage space is not very much different from Zero.

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XPost: alt.computer.workshop

Am 13.12.22 um 12:27 schrieb Commander Kinsey:

On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:00:19 -0000, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 13.12.22 um 05:55 schrieb Commander Kinsey:

Why on earth would you not want to be in full control of where your stuff is? I use my computer for some things and my phone for others. I don't want all the files on both, that would be pure insanity and a complete and utter waste of disk space.

I'm more in control where my data are than you ever will be

No, everything goes everywhere with you.

with this very old style methods.

You sound like a fashion victim.

And BTW: I'll never ever have data losses due to defects of the devices,

SSDs don't do that.

theft or loss of the device.

Unless your house is broken into by a burglar or the police and they're all taken.

You did not understand the concept. QED.

And BTW: Cost of storage space is not very much different from Zero.

Really? My data disk on this computer is $500. I wouldn't want that on all 8 computers and 2 phones.

*ROTFLSTC*. Once more: You do not understand modern and secure data
management concepts.

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