Hi Guys

I fitted a Texecom alarm system many moons ago with a Veritas R8 Plus
panel and Excel keypads.

I am pretty sure that it is possible to disable the tamper at the keypad
so that the panel cover can be removed quietly.
But I can't remember how I did that.

In the manual I have found the paragraph:

Enter the factory set Engineer code 1234 and
press PROG to access the Programming Menu and
disable 24 Hour zones (Fire, PA and Tamper) via the
Engineer code. All the zone lights will illuminate.

This suggests, to me, that you need to do something once in Engineering
mode, but does not make clear what exactly.

Does anyone have this system that can advise please?

I tried calling Texecom, but they now have an indeterminable queue for
tech support.

Thanks


Phil

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On 09/12/2024 13:46, Alan Lee wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:43, thescullster wrote:

This suggests, to me, that you need to do something once in
Engineering mode, but does not make clear what exactly.

Does anyone have this system that can advise please?

Normally, putting the alarm into Engineer Mode cancels any tampers, so
it can be taken apart without the sounder going off.

Thanks Alan

I think that this is probably the case here, it's just that the relevant paragraph has been deliberately worded to maximise the possibility of misinterpretation.

Phil

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On 09/12/2024 13:43, thescullster wrote:

This suggests, to me, that you need to do something once in Engineering
mode, but does not make clear what exactly.

Does anyone have this system that can advise please?

Normally, putting the alarm into Engineer Mode cancels any tampers, so
it can be taken apart without the sounder going off.

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On 09/12/2024 14:02, thescullster wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:46, Alan Lee wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:43, thescullster wrote:

This suggests, to me, that you need to do something once in
Engineering mode, but does not make clear what exactly.

Does anyone have this system that can advise please?

Normally, putting the alarm into Engineer Mode cancels any tampers, so
it can be taken apart without the sounder going off.

Thanks Alan

I think that this is probably the case here, it's just that the relevant paragraph has been deliberately worded to maximise the possibility of misinterpretation.

The tamper only sets off the internal sounder and it not that loud. But entering the engineers code as Alan suggested should work. You can
silence the tamper siren with your 4 digit user code if it goes off.

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On 09/12/2024 21:40, ARW wrote:

On 09/12/2024 14:02, thescullster wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:46, Alan Lee wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:43, thescullster wrote:

This suggests, to me, that you need to do something once in
Engineering mode, but does not make clear what exactly.

Does anyone have this system that can advise please?

Normally, putting the alarm into Engineer Mode cancels any tampers,
so it can be taken apart without the sounder going off.

Thanks Alan

I think that this is probably the case here, it's just that the
relevant paragraph has been deliberately worded to maximise the
possibility of misinterpretation.

The tamper only sets off the internal sounder and it not that loud. But entering the engineers code as Alan suggested should work. You can
silence the tamper siren with your 4 digit user code if it goes off.

Thanks Adam

Yes, I tried the engineer's code last night so I could check the battery size/spec and it did cancel the tamper alarm.

I put this system in, but it's a while since I replaced the battery.

We had a power cut Sunday afternoon for a few hours which highlighted
the need for the battery swap (the battery held up for about 3 hours
then set the full alarm off). Unfortunately, the battery was so low I
couldn't cancel the alarm as the keypads were not taking input. Strange
there was enough power left to make a noise, but not accept a cancel instruction.

It reminded me of your last visit - trying to test the cooker circuit
when the power went off!

Phil

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thescullster <Phil@nospam.com> wrote:

On 09/12/2024 21:40, ARW wrote:

On 09/12/2024 14:02, thescullster wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:46, Alan Lee wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:43, thescullster wrote:

This suggests, to me, that you need to do something once in
Engineering mode, but does not make clear what exactly.

Does anyone have this system that can advise please?

Normally, putting the alarm into Engineer Mode cancels any tampers,
so it can be taken apart without the sounder going off.

Thanks Alan

I think that this is probably the case here, it's just that the
relevant paragraph has been deliberately worded to maximise the
possibility of misinterpretation.

The tamper only sets off the internal sounder and it not that loud. But
entering the engineers code as Alan suggested should work. You can
silence the tamper siren with your 4 digit user code if it goes off.

Thanks Adam

Yes, I tried the engineer's code last night so I could check the battery size/spec and it did cancel the tamper alarm.

I put this system in, but it's a while since I replaced the battery.

We had a power cut Sunday afternoon for a few hours which highlighted
the need for the battery swap (the battery held up for about 3 hours
then set the full alarm off). Unfortunately, the battery was so low I couldn't cancel the alarm as the keypads were not taking input. Strange there was enough power left to make a noise, but not accept a cancel instruction.

The outdoor sounders usually have their own batteries. (To thwart any ne’er do well who tries to cut the wire to the sounder.)

Tim



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On 10/12/2024 15:09, Tim+ wrote:

thescullster <Phil@nospam.com> wrote:

On 09/12/2024 21:40, ARW wrote:

On 09/12/2024 14:02, thescullster wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:46, Alan Lee wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:43, thescullster wrote:

This suggests, to me, that you need to do something once in
Engineering mode, but does not make clear what exactly.

Does anyone have this system that can advise please?

Normally, putting the alarm into Engineer Mode cancels any tampers,
so it can be taken apart without the sounder going off.

Thanks Alan

I think that this is probably the case here, it's just that the
relevant paragraph has been deliberately worded to maximise the
possibility of misinterpretation.

The tamper only sets off the internal sounder and it not that loud. But
entering the engineers code as Alan suggested should work. You can
silence the tamper siren with your 4 digit user code if it goes off.

Thanks Adam

Yes, I tried the engineer's code last night so I could check the battery
size/spec and it did cancel the tamper alarm.

I put this system in, but it's a while since I replaced the battery.

We had a power cut Sunday afternoon for a few hours which highlighted
the need for the battery swap (the battery held up for about 3 hours
then set the full alarm off). Unfortunately, the battery was so low I
couldn't cancel the alarm as the keypads were not taking input. Strange
there was enough power left to make a noise, but not accept a cancel
instruction.

The outdoor sounders usually have their own batteries. (To thwart any ne’er do well who tries to cut the wire to the sounder.)

Tim

Thanks Tim

Yes the bellbox on mine certainly has its own battery.

That kicked off when the panel battery gave out.

As you say, the panel sends a hold off supply to the bellbox, so if that
is interupted the bellbox sounds.

My panel has button sequence that will disable the bellbox tamper.
That's useful cos it's possible to work on the bellbox without getting
blasted when you lift the lid.

Phil

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thescullster wrote:

Yes the bellbox on mine certainly has its own battery.
That kicked off when the panel battery gave out.

I'm sure everyone around here thinks the bell-box is *supposed* to go
off whenever there's a power-cut!

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On 10/12/2024 15:44, Andy Burns wrote:

thescullster wrote:

Yes the bellbox on mine certainly has its own battery.
That kicked off when the panel battery gave out.

I'm sure everyone around here thinks the bell-box is *supposed* to go
off whenever there's a power-cut!

Strange you should say that Andy....

The one thing I noticed when the power went out was the noticable lack
of alarm noise. There are usually three different properties breaking
the silence, but on Sunday none (until mine started up about 3 hours in).

Phil

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In article <vj9j8v$10bnn$1@dont-email.me>,
thescullster <Phil@nospam.com> wrote:

On 09/12/2024 21:40, ARW wrote:

On 09/12/2024 14:02, thescullster wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:46, Alan Lee wrote:

On 09/12/2024 13:43, thescullster wrote:

This suggests, to me, that you need to do something once in
Engineering mode, but does not make clear what exactly.

Does anyone have this system that can advise please?

Normally, putting the alarm into Engineer Mode cancels any tampers,
so it can be taken apart without the sounder going off.

Thanks Alan

I think that this is probably the case here, it's just that the
relevant paragraph has been deliberately worded to maximise the
possibility of misinterpretation.

The tamper only sets off the internal sounder and it not that loud. But entering the engineers code as Alan suggested should work. You can
silence the tamper siren with your 4 digit user code if it goes off.

Thanks Adam

Yes, I tried the engineer's code last night so I could check the battery size/spec and it did cancel the tamper alarm.

I put this system in, but it's a while since I replaced the battery.

We had a power cut Sunday afternoon for a few hours which highlighted
the need for the battery swap (the battery held up for about 3 hours
then set the full alarm off). Unfortunately, the battery was so low I couldn't cancel the alarm as the keypads were not taking input. Strange there was enough power left to make a noise, but not accept a cancel instruction.

Possibly different batteries.

It reminded me of your last visit - trying to test the cooker circuit
when the power went off!

Phil

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