Recent flooding had revealed the treat of a soak-away beneath mycellar,
or rather beneath the neighbour's cellar with a drain pipe to myso
previously thought to be tanked cellar. Much gnashing of teeth.
I wish to seal this pipe off so no further flooding will occur.
The pipe is 4 inch and what looks like to be ceramic or something.
Certainly not mental anyway. Would have been done about 50 years ago,
whatever would have ben common for 4" ceramic or clay pipe was usedthen.
I bought a pipe bung from screwfix:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/62513
which has stemmed the flow but not eliminated it entirely; the little
sump into which the pipe makes an entrance slowly fills up overnight.
(The ground water level must have dropped now as it is no longer overflowing.)
But I know the bung isn't perfectly co-axial with the pipe so perhaps
this is allowing the slight leak. It is something I will investigate tomorrow.
I am sure that the bung is not a permanent stop and I will need
something more, well, permanent. So, what do I use?
Certainly not mental anyway.
Recent flooding had revealed the treat of a soak-away beneath my cellar,
or rather beneath the neighbour's cellar with a drain pipe to my
previously thought to be tanked cellar. Much gnashing of teeth.
I wish to seal this pipe off so no further flooding will occur.
The pipe is 4 inch and what looks like to be ceramic or something.
Certainly not mental anyway. Would have been done about 50 years ago, so whatever would have ben common for 4" ceramic or clay pipe was used then.
I bought a pipe bung from screwfix:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/62513
which has stemmed the flow but not eliminated it entirely; the little
sump into which the pipe makes an entrance slowly fills up overnight.
(The ground water level must have dropped now as it is no longer overflowing.)
But I know the bung isn't perfectly co-axial with the pipe so perhaps
this is allowing the slight leak. It is something I will investigate tomorrow.
I am sure that the bung is not a permanent stop and I will need
something more, well, permanent. So, what do I use?
I was going to use cement but will that produce a waterproof seal
between itself and the pipe? Or should I use some sort of sealing gloop
from a tube?
Ideally the water level will drop enough to allow the pipe to dry before
a seal is put in place, but are there any products that can be used underwater? I did think of using expanding PU foam but then realised
that because it is an idea I had, it is bound to not work.
Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
David Paste.
Recent flooding had revealed the treat of a soak-away beneath my cellar,
or rather beneath the neighbour's cellar with a drain pipe to my
previously thought to be tanked cellar. Much gnashing of teeth.
I wish to seal this pipe off so no further flooding will occur.
The pipe is 4 inch and what looks like to be ceramic or something.
Certainly not mental anyway. Would have been done about 50 years ago, so whatever would have ben common for 4" ceramic or clay pipe was used then.
I bought a pipe bung from screwfix:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/62513
which has stemmed the flow but not eliminated it entirely; the little
sump into which the pipe makes an entrance slowly fills up overnight.
(The ground water level must have dropped now as it is no longer overflowing.)
But I know the bung isn't perfectly co-axial with the pipe so perhaps
this is allowing the slight leak. It is something I will investigate tomorrow.
I am sure that the bung is not a permanent stop and I will need
something more, well, permanent. So, what do I use?
I was going to use cement but will that produce a waterproof seal
between itself and the pipe? Or should I use some sort of sealing gloop
from a tube?
Ideally the water level will drop enough to allow the pipe to dry before
a seal is put in place, but are there any products that can be used underwater? I did think of using expanding PU foam but then realised
that because it is an idea I had, it is bound to not work.
David Paste <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:
Recent flooding had revealed the treat of a soak-away beneath my cellar,If the pipe really is a drain from a soak-away then I don't think
or rather beneath the neighbour's cellar with a drain pipe to my
previously thought to be tanked cellar. Much gnashing of teeth.
I wish to seal this pipe off so no further flooding will occur.
The pipe is 4 inch and what looks like to be ceramic or something.
Certainly not mental anyway. Would have been done about 50 years ago, so
whatever would have ben common for 4" ceramic or clay pipe was used then.
I bought a pipe bung from screwfix:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/62513
which has stemmed the flow but not eliminated it entirely; the little
sump into which the pipe makes an entrance slowly fills up overnight.
(The ground water level must have dropped now as it is no longer
overflowing.)
But I know the bung isn't perfectly co-axial with the pipe so perhaps
this is allowing the slight leak. It is something I will investigate
tomorrow.
I am sure that the bung is not a permanent stop and I will need
something more, well, permanent. So, what do I use?
I was going to use cement but will that produce a waterproof seal
between itself and the pipe? Or should I use some sort of sealing gloop
from a tube?
Ideally the water level will drop enough to allow the pipe to dry before
a seal is put in place, but are there any products that can be used
underwater? I did think of using expanding PU foam but then realised
that because it is an idea I had, it is bound to not work.
simply stopping it up at the end where the water comes out is going to
work long term. The water from the soak-away needs to go somewhere,
if you stop it coming out of the end of the pipe then the water is
going to overflow somewhere else.
On 08/01/2025 16:32, Chris Green wrote:
David Paste <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:
Recent flooding had revealed the treat of a soak-away beneath my cellar, >> or rather beneath the neighbour's cellar with a drain pipe to myIf the pipe really is a drain from a soak-away then I don't think
previously thought to be tanked cellar. Much gnashing of teeth.
I wish to seal this pipe off so no further flooding will occur.
The pipe is 4 inch and what looks like to be ceramic or something.
Certainly not mental anyway. Would have been done about 50 years ago, so >> whatever would have ben common for 4" ceramic or clay pipe was used then. >>
I bought a pipe bung from screwfix:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/62513
which has stemmed the flow but not eliminated it entirely; the little
sump into which the pipe makes an entrance slowly fills up overnight.
(The ground water level must have dropped now as it is no longer
overflowing.)
But I know the bung isn't perfectly co-axial with the pipe so perhaps
this is allowing the slight leak. It is something I will investigate
tomorrow.
I am sure that the bung is not a permanent stop and I will need
something more, well, permanent. So, what do I use?
I was going to use cement but will that produce a waterproof seal
between itself and the pipe? Or should I use some sort of sealing gloop
from a tube?
Ideally the water level will drop enough to allow the pipe to dry before >> a seal is put in place, but are there any products that can be used
underwater? I did think of using expanding PU foam but then realised
that because it is an idea I had, it is bound to not work.
simply stopping it up at the end where the water comes out is going to
work long term. The water from the soak-away needs to go somewhere,
if you stop it coming out of the end of the pipe then the water is
going to overflow somewhere else.
If the water is coming from the neighbour's property, then it would be
that neighbour's responsibility to fix the problem. Dumping the problem
into the OP's lap is not a proper solution.
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 08/01/2025 16:32, Chris Green wrote:True, but what I said still stands, the water must go somewhere and it
David Paste <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:If the water is coming from the neighbour's property, then it would be
Recent flooding had revealed the treat of a soak-away beneath my cellar, >>>> or rather beneath the neighbour's cellar with a drain pipe to myIf the pipe really is a drain from a soak-away then I don't think
previously thought to be tanked cellar. Much gnashing of teeth.
I wish to seal this pipe off so no further flooding will occur.
The pipe is 4 inch and what looks like to be ceramic or something.
Certainly not mental anyway. Would have been done about 50 years ago, so >>>> whatever would have ben common for 4" ceramic or clay pipe was used then. >>>>
I bought a pipe bung from screwfix:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/62513
which has stemmed the flow but not eliminated it entirely; the little
sump into which the pipe makes an entrance slowly fills up overnight.
(The ground water level must have dropped now as it is no longer
overflowing.)
But I know the bung isn't perfectly co-axial with the pipe so perhaps
this is allowing the slight leak. It is something I will investigate
tomorrow.
I am sure that the bung is not a permanent stop and I will need
something more, well, permanent. So, what do I use?
I was going to use cement but will that produce a waterproof seal
between itself and the pipe? Or should I use some sort of sealing gloop >>>> from a tube?
Ideally the water level will drop enough to allow the pipe to dry before >>>> a seal is put in place, but are there any products that can be used
underwater? I did think of using expanding PU foam but then realised
that because it is an idea I had, it is bound to not work.
simply stopping it up at the end where the water comes out is going to
work long term. The water from the soak-away needs to go somewhere,
if you stop it coming out of the end of the pipe then the water is
going to overflow somewhere else.
that neighbour's responsibility to fix the problem. Dumping the problem
into the OP's lap is not a proper solution.
may well simply dribble down to the same place round the outside of
the pipe. If the water **is** from adjacent property then one needs
to negotiate with the neighbour to sort things out.
Recent flooding had revealed the treat of a soak-away beneath my cellar,
or rather beneath the neighbour's cellar with a drain pipe to my
previously thought to be tanked cellar. Much gnashing of teeth.
I wish to seal this pipe off so no further flooding will occur.
The pipe is 4 inch and what looks like to be ceramic or something.
Certainly not mental anyway. Would have been done about 50 years ago, so whatever would have ben common for 4" ceramic or clay pipe was used
then.
I bought a pipe bung from screwfix:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/62513
which has stemmed the flow but not eliminated it entirely; the little
sump into which the pipe makes an entrance slowly fills up overnight.
(The ground water level must have dropped now as it is no longer overflowing.)
But I know the bung isn't perfectly co-axial with the pipe so perhaps
this is allowing the slight leak. It is something I will investigate tomorrow.
I am sure that the bung is not a permanent stop and I will need
something more, well, permanent. So, what do I use?
I was going to use cement but will that produce a waterproof seal
between itself and the pipe? Or should I use some sort of sealing gloop
from a tube?
Ideally the water level will drop enough to allow the pipe to dry before
a seal is put in place, but are there any products that can be used underwater? I did think of using expanding PU foam but then realised
that because it is an idea I had, it is bound to not work.
Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
On Tue, 07 Jan 2025 21:30:55 +0000, David Paste wrote:
Do you have any idea of the soil or other material surrounding the pipe? Pipes are often laid on a bed of gravel then covered over with more gravel. If that is so you are likely to have a very slow flow through the gravel
bed along the outside of the pipe.
Cheers
Dave R
I did think of using expanding PU foam but then realised
that because it is an idea I had, it is bound to not work.
On 8 Jan 2025 at 19:11:24 GMT, Chris Green wrote:
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 08/01/2025 16:32, Chris Green wrote:True, but what I said still stands, the water must go somewhere and it
David Paste <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:If the water is coming from the neighbour's property, then it would be
Recent flooding had revealed the treat of a soak-away beneath my cellar, >>>>> or rather beneath the neighbour's cellar with a drain pipe to myIf the pipe really is a drain from a soak-away then I don't think
previously thought to be tanked cellar. Much gnashing of teeth.
I wish to seal this pipe off so no further flooding will occur.
The pipe is 4 inch and what looks like to be ceramic or something.
Certainly not mental anyway. Would have been done about 50 years ago, so >>>>> whatever would have ben common for 4" ceramic or clay pipe was used then. >>>>>
I bought a pipe bung from screwfix:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/62513
which has stemmed the flow but not eliminated it entirely; the little >>>>> sump into which the pipe makes an entrance slowly fills up overnight. >>>>> (The ground water level must have dropped now as it is no longer
overflowing.)
But I know the bung isn't perfectly co-axial with the pipe so perhaps >>>>> this is allowing the slight leak. It is something I will investigate >>>>> tomorrow.
I am sure that the bung is not a permanent stop and I will need
something more, well, permanent. So, what do I use?
I was going to use cement but will that produce a waterproof seal
between itself and the pipe? Or should I use some sort of sealing gloop >>>>> from a tube?
Ideally the water level will drop enough to allow the pipe to dry before >>>>> a seal is put in place, but are there any products that can be used
underwater? I did think of using expanding PU foam but then realised >>>>> that because it is an idea I had, it is bound to not work.
simply stopping it up at the end where the water comes out is going to >>>> work long term. The water from the soak-away needs to go somewhere,
if you stop it coming out of the end of the pipe then the water is
going to overflow somewhere else.
that neighbour's responsibility to fix the problem. Dumping the problem >>> into the OP's lap is not a proper solution.
may well simply dribble down to the same place round the outside of
the pipe. If the water **is** from adjacent property then one needs
to negotiate with the neighbour to sort things out.
Yes, agree. I have a feeling this happens quite often in tanked cellars - although not quite so blatant as to actually pipe it next door.
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