Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest >> and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Do they have the option of using an authentication code generator rather
than SMS?
The you always have the code and don't need to wait for SMS.
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both
NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Do they have the option of using an authentication code generator rather
than SMS?
The you always have the code and don't need to wait for SMS.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 13:28:00 +0000, John Rumm wrote:
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest >>> and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Do they have the option of using an authentication code generator rather
than SMS?
The you always have the code and don't need to wait for SMS.
Indeed. And all my Google Authenticator codes can be generated by my PC, using a script I wrote. So when the phone is is another room, or the
battery is flat...
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both
NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Re-requested a Lloyds code about seven times this morning. Over ten
minutes later they all arrived, about a second apart.
On 13/01/2025 13:51, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 13:28:00 +0000, John Rumm wrote:
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest
and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile! >>>> Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Do they have the option of using an authentication code generator rather >>> than SMS?
The you always have the code and don't need to wait for SMS.
Indeed. And all my Google Authenticator codes can be generated by my PC,
using a script I wrote. So when the phone is is another room, or the
battery is flat...
I do my very best to avoid using Google for any purpose.
On 13/01/2025 14:49, Timatmarford wrote:
On 13/01/2025 13:51, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 13:28:00 +0000, John Rumm wrote:
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both
NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my
mobile! Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Do they have the option of using an authentication code generator
rather than SMS?
The you always have the code and don't need to wait for SMS.
Indeed. And all my Google Authenticator codes can be generated by my
PC,
using a script I wrote. So when the phone is is another room, or the
battery is flat...
I do my very best to avoid using Google for any purpose.
Google authenticator is one a number of programs that adhere to a common standard for 2FA code generation.
So you can use an app from any megalomaniac multinational of your
choice! :-)
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
In message <lukf1bFgb8nU1@mid.individual.net>, Timatmarford
<tim@demon.co.uk> writes
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Happens to me sometimes (Clydesdale Bank), and I find rebooting the
phone works, even when I have made several attempts. Reboot and they
all arrive instantly.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is nothing in
the spec about performance.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both
NatWest and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Also in an area of poor signal those OTP (one Time Passcodes) are a pia.
The phone has to be balanced in an upstairs window and sometimes it just doesn't work or is too slow.
The Android Message app is supposed to work on wi-fi but it doesn't.
NatWest I have found to be the worst bank for cumbersome security,
Santander the best and easiest. Natwest put up so many barriers that it
is really impossible to do online banking without writing down all your
login details, which of course you can't do unless you are a fool
because if you lose the piece of paper you could be cleaned out, so I am constantly denied access. I am fed up with it.
TW
On 14/01/2025 10:28, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and
everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is nothing in
the spec about performance.
Hmm.. A few months back, I had a landline call from Namesco, my mail provider. To be frank, I didn't understand what was their issue but it
seemed to involve transferring my mail service and saving a small amount
of money.
Now on W11, and using TBird 118, I am finding mails are regularly 1 day
late and tend to come in bunches:-(
On 14/01/2025 12:12, Timatmarford wrote:
On 14/01/2025 10:28, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile! >>>> Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and
everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is nothing in >>> the spec about performance.
Hmm.. A few months back, I had a landline call from Namesco, my mail
provider. To be frank, I didn't understand what was their issue but it
seemed to involve transferring my mail service and saving a small
amount of money.
Now on W11, and using TBird 118, I am finding mails are regularly 1
day late and tend to come in bunches:-(
Is this the TBird settings ?.
You can decide how often it checks for new mail, inbound and
???outbound. Its in "Server Settings"
I have set mine up to check for new messages every 10 minutes
but you can press F5 at any time to force it to check immediately
On 14/01/2025 13:16, Andrew wrote:
On 14/01/2025 12:12, Timatmarford wrote:
On 14/01/2025 10:28, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile! >>>>> Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and
everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is
nothing in
the spec about performance.
Hmm.. A few months back, I had a landline call from Namesco, my mail
provider. To be frank, I didn't understand what was their issue but
it seemed to involve transferring my mail service and saving a small
amount of money.
Now on W11, and using TBird 118, I am finding mails are regularly 1
day late and tend to come in bunches:-(
Is this the TBird settings ?.
You can decide how often it checks for new mail, inbound and
???outbound. Its in "Server Settings"
I have set mine up to check for new messages every 10 minutes
but you can press F5 at any time to force it to check immediately
Ah!. I'll have a look. I was happier on version 115:-(
On 14/01/2025 14:19, Timatmarford wrote:
On 14/01/2025 13:16, Andrew wrote:
On 14/01/2025 12:12, Timatmarford wrote:
On 14/01/2025 10:28, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both >>>>> NatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my
mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and >>>>> everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is
nothing in
the spec about performance.
Hmm.. A few months back, I had a landline call from Namesco, my mail
provider. To be frank, I didn't understand what was their issue but
it seemed to involve transferring my mail service and saving a small
amount of money.
Now on W11, and using TBird 118, I am finding mails are regularly 1
day late and tend to come in bunches:-(
Is this the TBird settings ?.
You can decide how often it checks for new mail, inbound and
???outbound. Its in "Server Settings"
I have set mine up to check for new messages every 10 minutes
but you can press F5 at any time to force it to check immediately
Ah!. I'll have a look. I was happier on version 115:-(
Oops. Version 128! Set to collect mail on start up and every 10mins.
The server connection *timed out* message pops up ok so I assume it is actually connecting.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is nothing in
the spec about performance.
... but most logins are my email address anyway ...
On 14/01/2025 13:16, Andrew wrote:
On 14/01/2025 12:12, Timatmarford wrote:
On 14/01/2025 10:28, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile! >>>>> Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and
everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is nothing in >>>> the spec about performance.
Hmm.. A few months back, I had a landline call from Namesco, my mail
provider. To be frank, I didn't understand what was their issue but it
seemed to involve transferring my mail service and saving a small
amount of money.
Now on W11, and using TBird 118, I am finding mails are regularly 1
day late and tend to come in bunches:-(
Is this the TBird settings ?.
You can decide how often it checks for new mail, inbound and
???outbound. Its in "Server Settings"
I have set mine up to check for new messages every 10 minutes
but you can press F5 at any time to force it to check immediately
Ah!. I'll have a look. I was happier on version 115:-(
On 14/01/2025 10:28, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:Back in the day we were (trying to) use it to send alert messages of
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and
everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is nothing
in the spec about performance.
problems in our networks.
Sometimes it took a minute. Sometimes a day. Sometimes it never arrived
at all.
The same goes for emailed security codes. By the time they have arrived
the window to use them has expired
On 14 Jan 2025 at 13:20:36 GMT, "Andrew" <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:
... but most logins are my email address anyway ...
Why do sodding providers insist do this? When JohnLewis gave up broadband >last
year, changing my email address meant I had to scuttle round 100 or do >sodding
websites changing my login. And there's bound to be one or two you forget
to
do. As a result I lost access to my ebay account for several months.
Bad cess to 'em.
On 14 Jan 2025 at 13:20:36 GMT, "Andrew" <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:
... but most logins are my email address anyway ...
Why do sodding providers insist do this? When JohnLewis gave up broadband last
year, changing my email address meant I had to scuttle round 100 or do sodding
websites changing my login. And there's bound to be one or two you forget to do. As a result I lost access to my ebay account for several months.
On 14/01/2025 10:28, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:25:15 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to bothNatWest and
Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Sigh
SMS - like email - isn't guaranteed to be instant. Usually it is, and everyone is happy. But if it isn't it's just because there is nothing in the spec about performance.
Back in the day we were (trying to) use it to send alert messages of
problems in our networks.
Sometimes it took a minute. Sometimes a day. Sometimes it never arrived
at all.
The same goes for emailed security codes. By the time they have arrived
the window to use them has expired
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 10:30:50 +0000, TimW <timw@nomailta.co.uk>
wrote:
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest >>> and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Also in an area of poor signal those OTP (one Time Passcodes) are a pia.
The phone has to be balanced in an upstairs window and sometimes it just
doesn't work or is too slow.
The Android Message app is supposed to work on wi-fi but it doesn't.
The built-in Messages app (built-in meaning that there is no
simple way to uninstall it) certainly sends and receives SMSs
over Wi-Fi. Have you got Wi-Fi calling turned on? Perhaps some
mobile providers only allow calls over Wi-Fi, not SMSs.
The built-in Messages app (built-in meaning that there is no
simple way to uninstall it) certainly sends and receives SMSs
over Wi-Fi.
On 13/01/2025 12:25, Timatmarford wrote:
Catching up on paperwork today I struggled to login to both NatWest
and Lloyds.
The security code number took up to 10 minutes to arrive at my mobile!
Signal strength on both 3g and 4g flipping about a bit.....
Also in an area of poor signal those OTP (one Time Passcodes) are a pia.
The phone has to be balanced in an upstairs window and sometimes it just >doesn't work or is too slow.
The Android Message app is supposed to work on wi-fi but it doesn't.
The Android Message app is supposed to work on wi-fi but it doesn't.
I don't have a problem with WiFi calling (it's essential here) but I get
very frustrated at my SMS app offering to "Start a Chat" and other
stupid things.
Are you aware of an Android SMS app that just does nice easy, simple,
texts?
Jeff Gaines wrote:
I don't have a problem with WiFi calling (it's essential here) but I get
very frustrated at my SMS app offering to "Start a Chat" and other stupid
things.
Are you aware of an Android SMS app that just does nice easy, simple, texts?
For me that *is* the Google Messages app.
RCS works well and gets used when possible, iPhone users are starting to
upgrade to whatever iOS version it is that does support RCS (albeit without encryption you get between Android phones).
But if you don't like RCS for whatever reason you can disable it.
Andy Burns wrote:
RCS works well and gets used when possible
It also gets used when it is not possible, and a long time later you
may be informed that your message has not been sent.
But if you don't like RCS for whatever reason you can disable it.
.. and the Google Messages app keeps prompting you to accept things
which will enable it.
Nick Finnigan wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
RCS works well and gets used when possible
It also gets used when it is not possible, and a long time later you may
be informed that your message has not been sent.
There's an option to fallback from RCS to SMS, I did once have a message
get "stuck" as you describe, but it hasn't recurred since changing that fallback setting.
But if you don't like RCS for whatever reason you can disable it.
.. and the Google Messages app keeps prompting you to accept things
which will enable it.
Now that it's the default, I I don't think it keeps asking if you've
already said "no".
Andy Burns wrote:I think that whenever your phone has no wifi or mobile data connection
There's an option to fallback from RCS to SMS
would that require anyone who might send me an urgent message when
I have no data (most of the time I'm out) to have chosen that option,
and be prepared to wait 15 minutes?
On 16/01/2025 in message <d9qhojh9jqvanrquphgvg90jmuaot93pf4@4ax.com>
Roger wrote:
The built-in Messages app (built-in meaning that there is no
simple way to uninstall it) certainly sends and receives SMSs
over Wi-Fi.
I don't have a problem with WiFi calling (it's essential here) but I get
very frustrated at my SMS app offering to "Start a Chat" and other
stupid things.
Are you aware of an Android SMS app that just does nice easy, simple,
texts?
On 16/01/2025 in message <d9qhojh9jqvanrquphgvg90jmuaot93pf4@4ax.com>
Roger wrote:
The built-in Messages app (built-in meaning that there is no
simple way to uninstall it) certainly sends and receives SMSs
over Wi-Fi.
I don't have a problem with WiFi calling (it's essential here) but I get
very frustrated at my SMS app offering to "Start a Chat" and other stupid things.
Are you aware of an Android SMS app that just does nice easy, simple, texts?
On 16 Jan 2025 at 11:52:42 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:
On 16/01/2025 in message <d9qhojh9jqvanrquphgvg90jmuaot93pf4@4ax.com>
Roger wrote:
The built-in Messages app (built-in meaning that there is no
simple way to uninstall it) certainly sends and receives SMSs
over Wi-Fi.
I don't have a problem with WiFi calling (it's essential here) but I get >>very frustrated at my SMS app offering to "Start a Chat" and other stupid >>things.
Are you aware of an Android SMS app that just does nice easy, simple, >>texts?
Are you aware of anything on a smartphone which is nice, easy, and simple? >Nephew at Christmas was fuming that when he goes to charge up their EV,
many
of the chargers are bust, or don't work properly with a smartphone. And in >any
case, just as with parking apps, there are a dozen or so different ones.
My phone has an 8" screen so lives on my coffee table, I don't try and do anything complex with it, for that I need a proper sized screen and a keyboard.
I was hoping that somebody could recommend a simple, plain, SMS app as
that is the main use of my Smartphone.
A bunch of 3" brass finish door hinges fitted about 6 years ago have
decided to evict their pins!
Perhaps lack of owner lubrication or just Screwfix/Toolstation Chinesium.
A bunch of 3" brass finish door hinges fitted about 6 years ago have
decided to evict their pins!
Perhaps lack of owner lubrication or just Screwfix/Toolstation Chinesium.
On 29/01/2025 16:01, Timatmarford wrote:
A bunch of 3" brass finish door hinges fitted about 6 years ago have
decided to evict their pins!
Perhaps lack of owner lubrication or just Screwfix/Toolstation Chinesium.
It's the norm. Mine, just ordinary steel & 40+ years old try to escape.
I put it down to slight misalignment possibly caused by sagging.
Brilliant idea though. Saved a host of work removing doors to get
furniture through.
On 29/01/2025 16:01, Timatmarford wrote:
A bunch of 3" brass finish door hinges fitted about 6 years ago have
decided to evict their pins!
Perhaps lack of owner lubrication or just Screwfix/Toolstation Chinesium.
upwards or downwards ?
A bunch of 3" brass finish door hinges fitted about 6 years ago have
decided to evict their pins!
Perhaps lack of owner lubrication or just Screwfix/Toolstation Chinesium.
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