I've just received an unsolicited email from UK Power Networks.
"Let us know if any of the following also apply to you or someone in your household so we can make sure we give you the right support:
•You’re over 65
•You have a disability or experience physical or mental health challenges •You rely on electricity for medical equipment or store medicine
•You live with children under 5
•English isn't your first language
"
This seems to imply that anyone over 65 (guilty as charged) qualifies to
go on this register.
I've just received an unsolicited email from UK Power Networks.
"Let us know if any of the following also apply to you or someone in your household so we can make sure we give you the right support:
•You’re over 65
•You have a disability or experience physical or mental health challenges •You rely on electricity for medical equipment or store medicine
•You live with children under 5
•English isn't your first language
"
This seems to imply that anyone over 65 (guilty as charged) qualifies to
go on this register.
They also say
"
Within 30 days of receiving this email we will automatically add you to
our Priority Service Register, providing you with extra support if you
ever have a power cut. However, if you feel this service is not for you,
you can let us know at any time.
If you would like to opt out of this service, click Opt Out below:
"
This looks probably(!) legitimate.
If so, is everyone over 65 going onto the Priority Service Register?
We don't really need this at the moment because if there is a power cut we would light the log burner, and if we were desperate to cook then we would use the gas hob or our camping stoves or just move into the Motor Home
parked on the drive. The biggest concern would be the chest freezer in the shed. Really must check if our little Honda generator will power this.
However I am reluctant to click on an "Opt Out" button within an
unsolicited email.
Given the number of people over 65 in the country (and on this NG) I was wondering if anyone else has received this.
Also wondering when/how I told the electricity company my age.
A few years ago I got a similar letter from EDF. I told them to remove
my name from their priority service register and remove my age from
their records. They confirmed in an email that they had done this. I
don't know where they got my DoB from, but /assume/ they got it from the electoral register. I'm on my water company's priority services register.
I've just received an unsolicited email from UK Power Networks.
"Let us know if any of the following also apply to you or someone in your household so we can make sure we give you the right support: Youre
over 65 You have a disability or experience physical or mental health challenges You rely on electricity for medical equipment or store
medicine You live with children under 5 English isn't your first
language "
This seems to imply that anyone over 65 (guilty as charged) qualifies to
go on this register.
They also say " Within 30 days of receiving this email we will
automatically add you to our Priority Service Register, providing you
with extra support if you ever have a power cut. However, if you feel
this service is not for you, you can let us know at any time.
If you would like to opt out of this service, click Opt Out below:
"
This looks probably(!) legitimate. If so, is everyone over 65 going onto
the Priority Service Register?
We don't really need this at the moment because if there is a power cut
we would light the log burner, and if we were desperate to cook then we
would use the gas hob or our camping stoves or just move into the Motor
Home parked on the drive. The biggest concern would be the chest freezer
in the shed. Really must check if our little Honda generator will power
this.
However I am reluctant to click on an "Opt Out" button within an
unsolicited email.
Given the number of people over 65 in the country (and on this NG) I was wondering if anyone else has received this. Also wondering when/how I
told the electricity company my age.
Dave R
-- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 10 x64
-- This ema
On 22/01/2025 13:03, David wrote:
I've just received an unsolicited email from UK Power Networks.
"Let us know if any of the following also apply to you or someone in your
household so we can make sure we give you the right support:
Youre over 65
You have a disability or experience physical or mental health challenges
You rely on electricity for medical equipment or store medicine
You live with children under 5
English isn't your first language"
This seems to imply that anyone over 65 (guilty as charged) qualifies to
go on this register.
They also say
"Within 30 days of receiving this email we will automatically add you to
our Priority Service Register, providing you with extra support if you
ever have a power cut. However, if you feel this service is not for you,
you can let us know at any time.
If you would like to opt out of this service, click Opt Out below: "
This looks probably(!) legitimate.
If so, is everyone over 65 going onto the Priority Service Register?
We don't really need this at the moment because if there is a power cut we >> would light the log burner, and if we were desperate to cook then we would >> use the gas hob or our camping stoves or just move into the Motor Home
parked on the drive. The biggest concern would be the chest freezer in the >> shed. Really must check if our little Honda generator will power this.
However I am reluctant to click on an "Opt Out" button within an
unsolicited email.
Given the number of people over 65 in the country (and on this NG) I was
wondering if anyone else has received this.
Also wondering when/how I told the electricity company my age.
A few years ago I got a similar letter from EDF. I told them to remove
my name from their priority service register and remove my age from
their records. They confirmed in an email that they had done this. I
don't know where they got my DoB from, but /assume/ they got it from the >electoral register. I'm on my water company's priority services register.
I've just received an unsolicited email from UK Power Networks.[snip]
"Let us know if any of the following also apply to you or someone in your >household so we can make sure we give you the right support:
Youre over 65
This seems to imply that anyone over 65 (guilty as charged) qualifies to
go on this register.
This looks probably(!) legitimate.
If so, is everyone over 65 going onto the Priority Service Register?
Given the number of people over 65 in the country (and on this NG) I was >wondering if anyone else has received this.
On 22/01/2025 13:03, David wrote:<snip>
I've just received an unsolicited email from UK Power Networks.
"Let us know if any of the following also apply to you or someone in
your household so we can make sure we give you the right support:
•You’re over 65 •You have a disability or experience physical or mental
health challenges •You rely on electricity for medical equipment or
store medicine •You live with children under 5 •English isn't your
first language "
This seems to imply that anyone over 65 (guilty as charged) qualifies
to go on this register.
The more people unnecessarily on a Priority List the less likely the
service working. During a power cut are they going to send out
emergency generators to everyone over the age of 65?
a look at the voters' roll will show if you are liable for jury service.
If you are too old,, you won't be marked as viable. It's a give away.
On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 13:16:36 +0000, alan_m wrote:
On 22/01/2025 13:03, David wrote:<snip>
I've just received an unsolicited email from UK Power Networks.
"Let us know if any of the following also apply to you or someone in
your household so we can make sure we give you the right support:
•You’re over 65 •You have a disability or experience physical or mental
health challenges •You rely on electricity for medical equipment or
store medicine •You live with children under 5 •English isn't your
first language "
This seems to imply that anyone over 65 (guilty as charged) qualifies
to go on this register.
The more people unnecessarily on a Priority List the less likely the
service working. During a power cut are they going to send out
emergency generators to everyone over the age of 65?
Just one big one should do our entire street.
I am guessing that at least 50% would qualify.
Cheers
Dave R
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were on
the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike water they can't bring a bowser round.
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were on
the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike water they can't bring a bowser round.
There are some who'd suggest the equipment should have batteries. And
indeed I did mention this to the NHS team that supplied them. However
it's a huge additional expense and at the end of the day would still have been useless for the quoted 15-hour outage (which was actually 2) that
the supplier anticipated.
In article <vmt1u7$12g65$10@dont-email.me>,
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were on
the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike
water they can't bring a bowser round.
But they can bring a generator. They did this here when a neighbouring
house was being built and the builder removed a tree. The electricity
feeder to 5 houses went through the roots of the tree (which had grown
up around it). We had our own genny for 4 days - originally connected at about 1am. after a 1pm loss of power.
On 23/01/2025 09:25, Jethro_uk wrote:grupel-g0025grgr-25kva-diesel-generator/
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.They can bring a portable generator around, and hook it up to a bit of
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were on
the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike
water they can't bring a bowser round.
the local ring or even to your house.
There are some who'd suggest the equipment should have batteries. And
indeed I did mention this to the NHS team that supplied them. However
it's a huge additional expense and at the end of the day would still
have been useless for the quoted 15-hour outage (which was actually 2)
that the supplier anticipated.
That is precisely when a good diesel generator is what you need.
But safe installation needs to be done by the power company: break the
seal, pull the fuse, and install a generator capable of full house load. Essentially up to 100A.
so around 25kW or kVA
A snip at £7000 ...
https://www.hampshiregenerators.co.uk/generators/diesel-generators/
And, given the cost of 'red' diesel, the fuel cost would be about half
the grid price...
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.
I was involved with two APC UPSes for a client. Both died on test,
crashing the server, which fortunately was more reliable than they were.
Both had swollen batteries after 18 month
a sure sign of
overcharging. You might think a company in the business of selling
backup batteries ought to understand how to charge them.
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:58:36 -0000 (UTC)
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.
I was involved with two APC UPSes for a client. Both died on test,
crashing the server, which fortunately was more reliable than they were.
Both had swollen batteries after 18 months, a sure sign of
overcharging. You might think a company in the business of selling
backup batteries ought to understand how to charge them.
On 25 Jan 2025 at 15:09:10 GMT, "Joe" <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:58:36 -0000 (UTC)
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.
I was involved with two APC UPSes for a client. Both died on test,
crashing the server, which fortunately was more reliable than they were.
Both had swollen batteries after 18 months, a sure sign of
overcharging. You might think a company in the business of selling
backup batteries ought to understand how to charge them.
I have an APC UPS at home, never a problem. And since we're at the end of an 11kV spur, it is needed several times a year. Not long outages, with one or two exceptions over 15 years, but needed nonetheless.
There's a couple more that I provided a year ago for a small office after they
had several outages caused by roadworks.
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 10:17:05 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/01/2025 09:25, Jethro_uk wrote:grupel-g0025grgr-25kva-diesel-generator/
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.They can bring a portable generator around, and hook it up to a bit of
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were on
the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike
water they can't bring a bowser round.
the local ring or even to your house.
There are some who'd suggest the equipment should have batteries. And
indeed I did mention this to the NHS team that supplied them. However
it's a huge additional expense and at the end of the day would still
have been useless for the quoted 15-hour outage (which was actually 2)
that the supplier anticipated.
That is precisely when a good diesel generator is what you need.
But safe installation needs to be done by the power company: break the
seal, pull the fuse, and install a generator capable of full house load.
Essentially up to 100A.
so around 25kW or kVA
A snip at £7000 ...
https://www.hampshiregenerators.co.uk/generators/diesel-generators/
And, given the cost of 'red' diesel, the fuel cost would be about half
the grid price...
I refer you to my point about number of times it would be needed versus
cost.
And you'd have to run and test the generator one a schedule, etc
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.Whilst I bought a UPS simply because that would make sure that our mains supply would behave impeccably from that point on.
On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 19:57:06 +0000, Sam Plusnet wrote:
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.Whilst I bought a UPS simply because that would make sure that our mains
supply would behave impeccably from that point on.
Absolutely the same here. Lots of dips and surges, and the UPS units fix
that (3 of them in various parts of the house).
On 26/01/2025 21:36, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 19:57:06 +0000, Sam Plusnet wrote:Ah! I meant it as the reverse of sympathetic (antipathetic?) magic.
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once. >>>>Whilst I bought a UPS simply because that would make sure that our mains >>> supply would behave impeccably from that point on.
Absolutely the same here. Lots of dips and surges, and the UPS units fix
that (3 of them in various parts of the house).
Some years back, I had to replace the thermocouple on our CH boiler
several times over a short period.
When I next needed a replacement, I bought two - so I would have a spare
in hand.
15 years later, I have never needed that spare.
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 10:17:05 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/01/2025 09:25, Jethro_uk wrote:
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.They can bring a portable generator around, and hook it up to a bit of
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were on
the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike
water they can't bring a bowser round.
the local ring or even to your house.
There are some who'd suggest the equipment should have batteries. And
indeed I did mention this to the NHS team that supplied them. However
it's a huge additional expense and at the end of the day would still
have been useless for the quoted 15-hour outage (which was actually 2)
that the supplier anticipated.
That is precisely when a good diesel generator is what you need.
But safe installation needs to be done by the power company: break the
seal, pull the fuse, and install a generator capable of full house load.
Essentially up to 100A.
so around 25kW or kVA
A snip at 7000 ...
https://www.hampshiregenerators.co.uk/generators/diesel-generators/ >grupel-g0025grgr-25kva-diesel-generator/
And, given the cost of 'red' diesel, the fuel cost would be about half
the grid price...
I refer you to my point about number of times it would be needed versus
cost.
And you'd have to run and test the generator one a schedule, etc
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:58:36 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 10:17:05 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/01/2025 09:25, Jethro_uk wrote:
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.They can bring a portable generator around, and hook it up to a bit of
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were
on the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike
water they can't bring a bowser round.
the local ring or even to your house.
There are some who'd suggest the equipment should have batteries. And
indeed I did mention this to the NHS team that supplied them. However
it's a huge additional expense and at the end of the day would still
have been useless for the quoted 15-hour outage (which was actually
2) that the supplier anticipated.
That is precisely when a good diesel generator is what you need.
But safe installation needs to be done by the power company: break the
seal, pull the fuse, and install a generator capable of full house
load. Essentially up to 100A.
so around 25kW or kVA
A snip at 7000 ...
https://www.hampshiregenerators.co.uk/generators/diesel-generators/ >grupel-g0025grgr-25kva-diesel-generator/
And, given the cost of 'red' diesel, the fuel cost would be about half
the grid price...
I refer you to my point about number of times it would be needed versus >cost.
And you'd have to run and test the generator one a schedule, etc
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.
I wouldn't buy UPS again. I think - rightly or wrongly - that modern PCs
are robust enough to cope with a power interruption and leave a way to recover the situation. I might as well retain the one I have so long as
it works.
In article <9hvjpj9aqd2vstulf7rp2ukfp1uf6lcvfh@4ax.com>, Scott ><newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:58:36 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk
<jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 10:17:05 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/01/2025 09:25, Jethro_uk wrote:grupel-g0025grgr-25kva-diesel-generator/
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.They can bring a portable generator around, and hook it up to a bit of
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were
on the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike
water they can't bring a bowser round.
the local ring or even to your house.
There are some who'd suggest the equipment should have batteries. And
indeed I did mention this to the NHS team that supplied them. However
it's a huge additional expense and at the end of the day would still
have been useless for the quoted 15-hour outage (which was actually
2) that the supplier anticipated.
That is precisely when a good diesel generator is what you need.
But safe installation needs to be done by the power company: break the
seal, pull the fuse, and install a generator capable of full house
load. Essentially up to 100A.
so around 25kW or kVA
A snip at 7000 ...
https://www.hampshiregenerators.co.uk/generators/diesel-generators/
And, given the cost of 'red' diesel, the fuel cost would be about half
the grid price...
I refer you to my point about number of times it would be needed versus
cost.
And you'd have to run and test the generator one a schedule, etc
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.
I wouldn't buy UPS again. I think - rightly or wrongly - that modern PCs
are robust enough to cope with a power interruption and leave a way to
recover the situation. I might as well retain the one I have so long as
it works.
These days it's more than just PCs. I have FTTP which needs mains to
operate and so does its associated telephony kit. Then I can use the phone. >I've just discovered that the most recent mains glitch stopped my EV
charger from working, I've rebooted it and it seems to work properly again.
I think that UPSs are a fact of life these days -, I have 3 in different >parts of the house. They keep phones, wifi (which I need for our mobiles >indoors) and some computers. Lapstops will also help to keep in touch since >they have internal batteries (which I try and keep charged).
I wouldn't buy UPS again. I think - rightly or wrongly - that modern
PCs are robust enough to cope with a power interruption and leave a
way to recover the situation. I might as well retain the one I have so
long as it works.
These days it's more than just PCs. I have FTTP which needs mains to >>operate and so does its associated telephony kit. Then I can use the
phone.
I've just discovered that the most recent mains glitch stopped my EV >>charger from working, I've rebooted it and it seems to work properly
again.
I think that UPSs are a fact of life these days -, I have 3 in different >>parts of the house. They keep phones, wifi (which I need for our mobiles >>indoors) and some computers. Lapstops will also help to keep in touch
since they have internal batteries (which I try and keep charged).
Good points.
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:58:36 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 10:17:05 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/01/2025 09:25, Jethro_uk wrote:grupel-g0025grgr-25kva-diesel-generator/
We're on the priority list - SWMBO.They can bring a portable generator around, and hook it up to a bit of
Last power cut in September, when I reported, the agent knew we were on >>>> the register and did enquire if we were OK.
Thanks to some emergency lighting I have setup we were, but the air
mattress she is supposed to sleep on wasn't working. Neither was the
hospital bed. Luckily I was around to implement plan B
I have no idea what they would have done if we *weren't* OK. Unlike
water they can't bring a bowser round.
the local ring or even to your house.
There are some who'd suggest the equipment should have batteries. And
indeed I did mention this to the NHS team that supplied them. However
it's a huge additional expense and at the end of the day would still
have been useless for the quoted 15-hour outage (which was actually 2) >>>> that the supplier anticipated.
That is precisely when a good diesel generator is what you need.
But safe installation needs to be done by the power company: break the
seal, pull the fuse, and install a generator capable of full house load. >>> Essentially up to 100A.
so around 25kW or kVA
A snip at £7000 ...
https://www.hampshiregenerators.co.uk/generators/diesel-generators/
And, given the cost of 'red' diesel, the fuel cost would be about half
the grid price...
I refer you to my point about number of times it would be needed versus
cost.
And you'd have to run and test the generator one a schedule, etc
I gave up with UPSs after 3 battery changes and it wasn't needed once.
I wouldn't buy UPS again. I think - rightly or wrongly - that modern
PCs are robust enough to cope with a power interruption and leave a
way to recover the situation. I might as well retain the one I have so
long as it works.
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 12:17:07 +0000, Scott wrote:
I wouldn't buy UPS again. I think - rightly or wrongly - that modern
PCs are robust enough to cope with a power interruption and leave a
way to recover the situation. I might as well retain the one I have so >>> long as it works.
These days it's more than just PCs. I have FTTP which needs mains to >>operate and so does its associated telephony kit. Then I can use the >>phone.
I've just discovered that the most recent mains glitch stopped my EV >>charger from working, I've rebooted it and it seems to work properly >>again.
I think that UPSs are a fact of life these days -, I have 3 in different >>parts of the house. They keep phones, wifi (which I need for our mobiles >>indoors) and some computers. Lapstops will also help to keep in touch >>since they have internal batteries (which I try and keep charged).
Good points.
We suffer from surges and sags in the supply. The UPS units are there to protect the hardware, rather than data.
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