C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out? Chapter and verse from Paul would
be wasted:-) but I have scribbled out the list for interest:-
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 GP10 HOST CONTROLLER-INT3450
INTEL(R) DISPLAY AUDIO
INTEL (R) MANAGEMENT ENGINE INTERFACE #1
HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GU90N
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 12C HOST CONTROLLER -A368
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an updated box.
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out? Chapter and verse from Paul would
be wasted:-) but I have scribbled out the list for interest:-
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 GP10 HOST CONTROLLER-INT3450
INTEL(R) DISPLAY AUDIO
INTEL (R) MANAGEMENT ENGINE INTERFACE #1
HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GU90N
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 12C HOST CONTROLLER -A368
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out? Chapter and verse from Paul would
be wasted:-) but I have scribbled out the list for interest:-
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 GP10 HOST CONTROLLER-INT3450
INTEL(R) DISPLAY AUDIO
INTEL (R) MANAGEMENT ENGINE INTERFACE #1
HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GU90N
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 12C HOST CONTROLLER -A368
On 22/01/2025 20:52, Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an
updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out? Chapter and verse from Paul
would be wasted:-) but I have scribbled out the list for interest:-
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 GP10 HOST CONTROLLER-INT3450
INTEL(R) DISPLAY AUDIO
INTEL (R) MANAGEMENT ENGINE INTERFACE #1
HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GU90N
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 12C HOST CONTROLLER -A368
C Cleaner has lost it's way.
Windows has this concept of executable computer programs called
"drivers",
which like other executable computer programs (OS utilities
and applications) can contain code with bugs, performance and security issues.
On 22/01/2025 20:52, Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an
updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out? Chapter and verse from Paul
would be wasted:-) but I have scribbled out the list for interest:-
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 GP10 HOST CONTROLLER-INT3450
INTEL(R) DISPLAY AUDIO
INTEL (R) MANAGEMENT ENGINE INTERFACE #1
HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GU90N
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 12C HOST CONTROLLER -A368
Those all look like mostly motherboard chipset drivers. If you do a
windows update check and then click the "View optional updates" link,
there may be a section on drivers that you can expand out and select.
That will ensure that only drivers from a trusted source are installed.
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an updated box.
On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:52:04 +0000, Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an
updated box.
And let me guess .... directs you to a "updatemydrivers.com" site that requires £££ ???
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an
updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on
an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an updated box.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd moments. I
only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on
an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd moments. I
only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
Timatmarford <tim@demon.co.uk> wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an
updated box.
Was I the only one expecting a thread ranting that old farts (like me and most of this group )should not be driving on the roads.
GH
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on
an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd moments. I
only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way, shape
or form to make statements like that.
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
Timatmarford <tim@demon.co.uk> wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an
updated box.
Was I the only one expecting a thread ranting that old farts (like me and most of this group )should not be driving on the roads.
On 23/01/2025 11:57, Marland wrote:
Timatmarford <tim@demon.co.uk> wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an
updated box.
Was I the only one expecting a thread ranting that old farts (like me
and
most of this group )should not be driving on the roads.
Ha Ha There is a club of motorists only found on the road between 9.30am
and 4.30pm. Distinguished by rigid adherence to speed limits. Sadly, I
am a member.
I have yet to try coloured anti dazzle lens when caught out after dark.
On 23/01/2025 14:43, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro
on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd moments.
I only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way,
shape or form to make statements like that.
Some of us are. Delete it, you
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
On 22/01/2025 23:14, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 22/01/2025 20:52, Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on
an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out? Chapter and verse from Paul
would be wasted:-) but I have scribbled out the list for interest:-
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 GP10 HOST CONTROLLER-INT3450
INTEL(R) DISPLAY AUDIO
INTEL (R) MANAGEMENT ENGINE INTERFACE #1
HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GU90N
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 12C HOST CONTROLLER -A368
C Cleaner has lost it's way.
Windows has this concept of executable computer programs called
"drivers",
As does every other OS...
which like other executable computer programs (OS utilities and
applications) can contain code with bugs, performance and security
issues.
While true, keep in mind that drivers run in the windows kernel at the highest level of privilege, and so have the power to bring down the
whole system should they fail - windows can't catch faults in driver
code with a "oops it did something naughty, I have stopped it" kind of response - it is blue screen time and a reboot.
This is why drivers need to be tested, proven and certified to a much
higher standard than "normal" code.
On 23/01/2025 15:01, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 14:43, mm0fmf wrote:What piles of stuff?
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro >>>>>>> on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd moments.
I only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way,
shape or form to make statements like that.
Some of us are. Delete it, you
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
I work for a company with a significant number of Windows laptops (about 20000 using Win11) and Windows servers (about 600) and greater numbers
of Linux servers. In the past 18 years we've never needed CCleaner or
even had installed on any Windows machines. Why? Because you don't need registry cleaners.
Having seen the questions you ask, you're the kind of person who should
steer well clear of making registry changes and certainly not running a cleaner. Seriously. Just leave the registry alone.
On 23/01/2025 17:19, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 15:01, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 14:43, mm0fmf wrote:What piles of stuff?
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro >>>>>>>> on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd
moments. I only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way,
shape or form to make statements like that.
Some of us are. Delete it, you
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
I work for a company with a significant number of Windows laptops
(about 20000 using Win11) and Windows servers (about 600) and greater
numbers of Linux servers. In the past 18 years we've never needed
CCleaner or even had installed on any Windows machines. Why? Because
you don't need registry cleaners.
Having seen the questions you ask, you're the kind of person who
should steer well clear of making registry changes and certainly not
running a cleaner. Seriously. Just leave the registry alone.
Probably 3 weeks since the last run. Now says:-
585 items can be cleaned. Cookies 19 items 24.77KB
Browsing history 566 items 76.83MB
Temporary system files 179 items 180MB
Application cache 1053 items 110MB
So I should just let this junk accumulate?
On 23/01/2025 15:06, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 11:57, Marland wrote:Oh I still drive at night. What is tough is that at this time of year
Timatmarford <tim@demon.co.uk> wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on an >>>> updated box.
Was I the only one expecting a thread ranting that old farts (like
me and
most of this group )should not be driving on the roads.
Ha Ha There is a club of motorists only found on the road between
9.30am and 4.30pm. Distinguished by rigid adherence to speed limits.
Sadly, I am a member.
I have yet to try coloured anti dazzle lens when caught out after dark.
the edge of a muddy wet country road is indistinguishable from the
muddy dead grass bordering it...with a few Gigawatts of white hot LEDS staring at you...
On 23/01/2025 17:19, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 15:01, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 14:43, mm0fmf wrote:What piles of stuff?
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro >>>>>>>> on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd
moments. I only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way,
shape or form to make statements like that.
Some of us are. Delete it, you
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
I work for a company with a significant number of Windows laptops
(about 20000 using Win11) and Windows servers (about 600) and greater
numbers of Linux servers. In the past 18 years we've never needed
CCleaner or even had installed on any Windows machines. Why? Because
you don't need registry cleaners.
Having seen the questions you ask, you're the kind of person who
should steer well clear of making registry changes and certainly not
running a cleaner. Seriously. Just leave the registry alone.
Probably 3 weeks since the last run. Now says:-
585 items can be cleaned. Cookies 19 items 24.77KB
Browsing history 566 items 76.83MB
Temporary system files 179 items 180MB
Application cache 1053 items 110MB
So I should just let this junk accumulate?
On 23/01/2025 01:49, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/01/2025 23:14, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 22/01/2025 20:52, Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro on
an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out? Chapter and verse from Paul
would be wasted:-) but I have scribbled out the list for interest:-
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 GP10 HOST CONTROLLER-INT3450
INTEL(R) DISPLAY AUDIO
INTEL (R) MANAGEMENT ENGINE INTERFACE #1
HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GU90N
INTEL (R) SERIAL 10 12C HOST CONTROLLER -A368
C Cleaner has lost it's way.
Windows has this concept of executable computer programs called
"drivers",
As does every other OS...
Not as "Executable computer programs" installer packaging.
To install hardware things on other operating systems normally takes a
simple script, and dropping of a few support files. Most of the required functions are already supported in the OS kernel, and that's relatively
easy to upgrade if not. Linux users really never hear of the word
drivers or trouble with them - but yeah they do exist as support files
and modules.
But windows likes to do it instead with a full blown GUI application 'setup.exe' deployment and all the downsides of that install, when it
pulls in other library dependencies and then we have to worry about
their security issues. Not to mention, other unwanted programs being installed. Spyware perhaps?
All of the above makes a simple thing like installing a new printer, a complete dance - and a worry when upgrading operating systems, and
wondering if this package will be OK going forward or will the printer company write a new one?
which like other executable computer programs (OS utilities and
applications) can contain code with bugs, performance and security
issues.
While true, keep in mind that drivers run in the windows kernel at the
highest level of privilege, and so have the power to bring down the
whole system should they fail - windows can't catch faults in driver
code with a "oops it did something naughty, I have stopped it" kind of
response - it is blue screen time and a reboot.
This is why drivers need to be tested, proven and certified to a much
higher standard than "normal" code.
Agreed. It would be useful if certification came from somewhere else
than the driver manufacturer. Microsoft does do this for some device
classes, but they are conflicted when they want to basically sell new operating systems and make obsolescent the old.
On 23/01/2025 17:19, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 15:01, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 14:43, mm0fmf wrote:What piles of stuff?
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 pro >>>>>>>> on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd
moments. I only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way,
shape or form to make statements like that.
Some of us are. Delete it, you
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
I work for a company with a significant number of Windows laptops
(about 20000 using Win11) and Windows servers (about 600) and greater
numbers of Linux servers. In the past 18 years we've never needed
CCleaner or even had installed on any Windows machines. Why? Because
you don't need registry cleaners.
Having seen the questions you ask, you're the kind of person who
should steer well clear of making registry changes and certainly not
running a cleaner. Seriously. Just leave the registry alone.
Probably 3 weeks since the last run. Now says:-
585 items can be cleaned. Cookies 19 items 24.77KB
Browsing history 566 items 76.83MB
Temporary system files 179 items 180MB
Application cache 1053 items 110MB
So I should just let this junk accumulate?
On 23/01/2025 20:28, Timatmarford wrote:Ok All enough said. Firefox is set to delete cookies but I don't recall
On 23/01/2025 17:19, mm0fmf wrote:Your browser is meant to control its cache, downloads, browsing history
On 23/01/2025 15:01, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 14:43, mm0fmf wrote:What piles of stuff?
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 >>>>>>>>> pro on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd
moments. I only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way,
shape or form to make statements like that.
Some of us are. Delete it, you
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
I work for a company with a significant number of Windows laptops
(about 20000 using Win11) and Windows servers (about 600) and greater
numbers of Linux servers. In the past 18 years we've never needed
CCleaner or even had installed on any Windows machines. Why? Because
you don't need registry cleaners.
Having seen the questions you ask, you're the kind of person who
should steer well clear of making registry changes and certainly not
running a cleaner. Seriously. Just leave the registry alone.
Probably 3 weeks since the last run. Now says:-
585 items can be cleaned. Cookies 19 items 24.77KB
Browsing history 566 items 76.83MB
Temporary system files 179 items 180MB
Application cache 1053 items 110MB
So I should just let this junk accumulate?
and cookies. You tell the browser how much space for the cache, how long
to keep the browsing history and what to do with cookies (keep, delete
on close etc.) Leave it to deal with those jobs.
As for the others, are short of disk space? If you are not down to the
last bytes then why do you care? 1TB SSD in this Windows machine,
currently 25.8GB of temporary files & app cache. Who cares with 626GB
free space. Browser cache is set to 500MB and to delete cookies on exit,
the actual Download directory is currently 66GB in size. Files from
Downloads get moved somewhere safe if wanted for some time. Otherwise
the directory will get deleted should I ever get low on disk space.
On 23/01/2025 20:28, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 17:19, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 15:01, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 14:43, mm0fmf wrote:What piles of stuff?
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 >>>>>>>>> pro on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd
moments. I only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way,
shape or form to make statements like that.
Some of us are. Delete it, you
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
I work for a company with a significant number of Windows laptops
(about 20000 using Win11) and Windows servers (about 600) and greater
numbers of Linux servers. In the past 18 years we've never needed
CCleaner or even had installed on any Windows machines. Why? Because
you don't need registry cleaners.
Having seen the questions you ask, you're the kind of person who
should steer well clear of making registry changes and certainly not
running a cleaner. Seriously. Just leave the registry alone.
Probably 3 weeks since the last run. Now says:-
585 items can be cleaned. Cookies 19 items 24.77KB
Browsing history 566 items 76.83MB
Deletion of cookies and browser history are a personal choice thing (and browsers have options to do that for you if wanted). Cookies serve
useful purposes as well as malign!
Temporary system files 179 items 180MB
Those can build up, and if low on disk space (where low is less than 10%
free - since that is the point NTFS will lose performance) they can be
worth removing. (again windows has standard tools that can do those and
more)
Application cache 1053 items 110MB
Applications caching is there to improve program load and executer performance. So deleting the contents when not necessary can actually
harm performance.
So I should just let this junk accumulate?
Things like registry "cleaning" are even more dubious and more likely to result in configurations that are less stable. Also registry access is a
core component in windows and is highly optimised, so there is no
tangible performance gain is removing "junk", but there is a risk of
doing damage each time you mess with it.
OK John. Ignorance is bliss! It occurs to me to wonder how the rest
of average PC users manage to survive!
On 24/01/2025 03:07, John Rumm wrote:
On 23/01/2025 20:28, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 17:19, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 15:01, Timatmarford wrote:
On 23/01/2025 14:43, mm0fmf wrote:What piles of stuff?
On 23/01/2025 10:23, Timatmarford wrote:Indeed. Someone failed to teach me Algol around 1970!
On 23/01/2025 09:29, mm0fmf wrote:
On 23/01/2025 08:51, Andy Burns wrote:
Timatmarford wrote:
C Cleaner keeps badgering me about 5 *outdated* drivers. W11 >>>>>>>>>> pro on an updated box.
Is this something I need to sort out?
Remove CCleaner
This, This a million times.
It doesn't seem to do any harm apart from butting in at odd
moments. I only let it remove stuff it says is unwanted.
With the greatest of respect Tim, you're not qualified in any way, >>>>>> shape or form to make statements like that.
Some of us are. Delete it, you
don't need it.So what will then happen to the piles of stuff?
I work for a company with a significant number of Windows laptops
(about 20000 using Win11) and Windows servers (about 600) and
greater numbers of Linux servers. In the past 18 years we've never
needed CCleaner or even had installed on any Windows machines. Why?
Because you don't need registry cleaners.
Having seen the questions you ask, you're the kind of person who
should steer well clear of making registry changes and certainly not
running a cleaner. Seriously. Just leave the registry alone.
Probably 3 weeks since the last run. Now says:-
585 items can be cleaned. Cookies 19 items 24.77KB
Browsing history 566 items 76.83MB
Deletion of cookies and browser history are a personal choice thing
(and browsers have options to do that for you if wanted). Cookies
serve useful purposes as well as malign!
Temporary system files 179 items 180MB
Those can build up, and if low on disk space (where low is less than
10% free - since that is the point NTFS will lose performance) they
can be worth removing. (again windows has standard tools that can do
those and more)
Application cache 1053 items 110MB
Applications caching is there to improve program load and executer
performance. So deleting the contents when not necessary can actually
harm performance.
So I should just let this junk accumulate?
Things like registry "cleaning" are even more dubious and more likely
to result in configurations that are less stable. Also registry access
is a core component in windows and is highly optimised, so there is no
tangible performance gain is removing "junk", but there is a risk of
doing damage each time you mess with it.
OK John. Ignorance is bliss! It occurs to me to wonder how the rest of average PC users manage to survive!
On 24/01/2025 10:10, Timatmarford wrote:
OK John. Ignorance is bliss! It occurs to me to wonder how the rest
of average PC users manage to survive!
IME generally by ignoring the whole thing, and letting the computer
do whatever it does by default - at least until the point it stops
working properly and then they ask for help.
(how many emails do you receive with a "sent from my iPhone" message
at the bottom? People don't even seem to question the concept that
one could even change that to something more appropriate or even just
delete it altogether)
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 495 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 37:49:40 |
| Calls: | 9,742 |
| Calls today: | 2 |
| Files: | 13,741 |
| Messages: | 6,183,589 |