Fact: It was illegal for monkeys to give the Nazi salute
Perhaps the best takeoff on the Hitler greeting, however, was that of
a performer from Paderborn: he taught his trained chimpanzees to
extend their arms in Nazi fashion. (According to the performer's son,
the chimpanzees enjoyed doing this.) Every time the animals saw
someone in uniform, even a postman, they would give the Nazi salute.
This dadaistic coup of the Paderborn comic, who was a committed Social Democrat, attracted the ire of his "racial comrades," who reported him
to the authorities. A directive was soon issued forbidding apes from
using the Hitler greeting, with the penalty for noncompliance being
the "slaugh-ter" of the animals. When it came to expressions of
respect for their leader, the Nazis did not have much sense of humor.
Judith
On 1/22/2025 10:47 PM, Judith Latham wrote:
Fact: It was illegal for monkeys to give the Nazi salute
Perhaps the best takeoff on the Hitler greeting, however, was that of
a performer from Paderborn: he taught his trained chimpanzees to
extend their arms in Nazi fashion. (According to the performer's son,
the chimpanzees enjoyed doing this.) Every time the animals saw
someone in uniform, even a postman, they would give the Nazi salute.
This dadaistic coup of the Paderborn comic, who was a committed Social
Democrat, attracted the ire of his "racial comrades," who reported him
to the authorities. A directive was soon issued forbidding apes from
using the Hitler greeting, with the penalty for noncompliance being
the "slaugh-ter" of the animals. When it came to expressions of
respect for their leader, the Nazis did not have much sense of humor.
Judith
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
….getting a lot of flack…
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
….getting a lot of flack…
FLAK
‘Flack’ is a surname.
On 23/01/2025 08:23, Spike wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:So it is. Roberta Flack springs to mind from recondite and uncharted depths.
….getting a lot of flack…
FLAK
‘Flack’ is a surname.
:Flak - from German, abbreviation of Fliegerabwehrkanone, literally ‘aviator-defence gun’:
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
On 1/22/25 20:35, Ed P wrote:
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
On 1/22/25 20:35, Ed P wrote:
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
On 24/01/2025 07:12, T wrote:
On 1/22/25 20:35, Ed P wrote:
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm. >>He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
Some people can't see what's in front of them, in full daylight
TW
On 24/01/2025 07:12, T wrote:
On 1/22/25 20:35, Ed P wrote:
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm. >>He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
Some people can't see what's in front of them, in full daylight
TW
On 1/22/25 20:35, Ed P wrote:
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
On 1/24/2025 2:12 AM, T wrote:
On 1/22/25 20:35, Ed P wrote:
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm. >>He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
Maybe. We'll never know for sure.
I do find Musk inspiring though. He inspired me to donate to Wikimedia.
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I find charging
in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local Waitrose.
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may actually
do some good despite themselves.
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I find charging
in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local Waitrose.
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may actually
do some good despite themselves.
Does seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the most to make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms with a
President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants to increase oil production.
GH
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did every
wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but
they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't
really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem able
to come up with anyone much better.
On 1/24/2025 11:49 AM, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I find charging
in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local
Waitrose.
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may actually >>> do some good despite themselves.
Does seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the
most to
make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms with a
President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants to
increase oil
production.
GH
Money. Environmental benefits were secondary to making money. He is
good at that.
On 24/01/2025 16:54, Ed P wrote:
On 1/24/2025 11:49 AM, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I find charging >>>> in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local
Waitrose.
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually
do some good despite themselves.
Does seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the
most to
make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms with a
President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants to
increase oil
production.
GH
Money. Environmental benefits were secondary to making money. He is
good at that.
Yup. Elon saw massive subsidies going to EV manufacturers and jumped on
the gravy train.
He doesn't give a fuck himself.
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I find charging
in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local Waitrose.
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may actually
do some good despite themselves.
Does seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the most to make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms with a
President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants to increase oil production.
On 24/01/2025 16:27, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000Well the voting public have put Reform ahead of both the other mains
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did every
wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but
they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't
really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem able
to come up with anyone much better.
parties in a poll today.
The times they are a changin'
On 24/01/2025 18:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/01/2025 16:27, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000Well the voting public have put Reform ahead of both the other mains
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did every
wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but
they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't
really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem able
to come up with anyone much better.
parties in a poll today.
The times they are a changin'
So that means 6 MP's next time round instead of 4.
He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
Maybe. We'll never know for sure.
On 24/01/2025 18:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:No. The estimate is around 190.
On 24/01/2025 16:27, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000Well the voting public have put Reform ahead of both the other mains
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did every
wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but
they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't
really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem able
to come up with anyone much better.
parties in a poll today.
The times they are a changin'
So that means 6 MP's next time round instead of 4.
On 1/24/25 6:21 AM, Ed P wrote:
He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
Maybe. We'll never know for sure.
Does American Pravda / DNC pay you for every post
like this you make?
On 1/24/2025 6:36 PM, T wrote:
On 1/24/25 6:21 AM, Ed P wrote:
He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
Maybe. We'll never know for sure.
Does American Pravda / DNC pay you for every post
like this you make?
Yes. Every post I get $10, but if it pisses you off I get $25.
Thanks for the bonus. I'll donate it to Wikipedia and piss off Musk too.
On 1/24/25 5:41 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 1/24/2025 6:36 PM, T wrote:
On 1/24/25 6:21 AM, Ed P wrote:
He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
Maybe. We'll never know for sure.
Does American Pravda / DNC pay you for every post
like this you make?
Yes. Every post I get $10, but if it pisses you off I get $25.
Thanks for the bonus. I'll donate it to Wikipedia and piss off Musk too.
How much do they take back if I tell them your voted for Trump?
On 24/01/2025 21:30, Andrew wrote:
On 24/01/2025 18:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/01/2025 16:27, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000Well the voting public have put Reform ahead of both the other mains
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did every >>>> wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but
they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't
really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem able >>>> to come up with anyone much better.
parties in a poll today.
The times they are a changin'
So that means 6 MP's next time round instead of 4.
No, unless the Tories wake up and smell the coffee of immigration they
will have 4 or 6 seats.
Reform are now ahead in the polls of both Labour and Tories.
Next
parliament will be a hung with some minority leaders holding power in exchange for knighthoods (again).
On 1/24/2025 11:05 PM, T wrote:
On 1/24/25 5:41 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 1/24/2025 6:36 PM, T wrote:
On 1/24/25 6:21 AM, Ed P wrote:
He was throwing his heart out to the audience.
American Pravda made it into a Nazi salute.
American Pravda is known for those kinds of
smears.
Maybe. We'll never know for sure.
Does American Pravda / DNC pay you for every post
like this you make?
Yes. Every post I get $10, but if it pisses you off I get $25.
Thanks for the bonus. I'll donate it to Wikipedia and piss off Musk
too.
How much do they take back if I tell them your voted for Trump?
Sounds like the typical Trump vengeance moves. Just the fact that you contact them gets me a bigger bonus. Be sure to tell them I think Musk
is a great guy too.
The FPTP system effectively blocks Reform from
coalition. And they're too incoherent to involve in power sharing.
And Sir Nigel? I think not 🙂
On 1/24/2025 8:49 AM, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:tRump is owned by musk. Of course they are good buddies. tRump gets billions, must gets anything he wants.
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I find charging
in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local Waitrose. >>>
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may actually >>> do some good despite themselves.
Does seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the most to >> make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms with a
President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants to increase oil
production.
GH
On 24/01/2025 18:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/01/2025 16:54, Ed P wrote:
On 1/24/2025 11:49 AM, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I find charging >>>>> in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local Waitrose. >>>>>
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may actually >>>>> do some good despite themselves.
Does seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the most to
make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms with a
President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants to increase oil
production.
GH
Money. Environmental benefits were secondary to making money. He is good at that.
Yup. Elon saw massive subsidies going to EV manufacturers and jumped on the gravy train.
He doesn't give a fuck himself.
Yes, he does like government subsidies and government money.
NASA has spent more than $13 billion on SpaceX over the last 20 years so you can see why he's sucking up to Trump.
On 1/24/2025 8:27 AM, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did every
wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but
they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't
really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem able
to come up with anyone much better.
Yes. It is disgusting how Bidem built the best economic recovery in many decades.
On 24/01/2025 16:54, Ed P wrote:
On 1/24/2025 11:49 AM, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I find charging >>>> in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local Waitrose. >>>>
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may actually >>>> do some good despite themselves.
Does seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the most to >>> make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms with a
President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants to increase oil
production.
GH
Money. Environmental benefits were secondary to making money. He is good at that.
Yup. Elon saw massive subsidies going to EV manufacturers and jumped on the gravy train.
He doesn't give a fuck himself.
On 24/01/2025 21:30, Andrew wrote:
On 24/01/2025 18:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/01/2025 16:27, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000Well the voting public have put Reform ahead of both the other mains
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did every >>>> wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but
they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't
really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem able >>>> to come up with anyone much better.
parties in a poll today.
The times they are a changin'
So that means 6 MP's next time round instead of 4.
No, unless the Tories wake up and smell the coffee of immigration they
will have 4 or 6 seats.
Reform are now ahead in the polls of both Labour and Tories. Next
parliament will be a hung with some minority leaders holding power in exchange for knighthoods (again).
Fredxx wrote:
On 24/01/2025 18:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:The government's NASA was ruined by lazy stupid DEI.
On 24/01/2025 16:54, Ed P wrote:
On 1/24/2025 11:49 AM, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:Money. Environmental benefits were secondary to making money. He is
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I findDoes seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the
charging in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local
Waitrose.
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
most to make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms
with a President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants >>>>> to increase oil production.
GH
good at that.
Yup. Elon saw massive subsidies going to EV manufacturers and jumped
on the gravy train.
He doesn't give a fuck himself.
Yes, he does like government subsidies and government money.
NASA has spent more than $13 billion on SpaceX over the last 20 years
so you can see why he's sucking up to Trump.
Musk's organization is meritocracy based.
On 1/22/2025 10:47 PM, Judith Latham wrote:
Fact: It was illegal for monkeys to give the Nazi salute
Perhaps the best takeoff on the Hitler greeting, however, was that of
a performer from Paderborn: he taught his trained chimpanzees to
extend their arms in Nazi fashion. (According to the performer's son,
the chimpanzees enjoyed doing this.) Every time the animals saw
someone in uniform, even a postman, they would give the Nazi salute.
This dadaistic coup of the Paderborn comic, who was a committed Social
Democrat, attracted the ire of his "racial comrades," who reported him
to the authorities. A directive was soon issued forbidding apes from
using the Hitler greeting, with the penalty for noncompliance being
the "slaugh-ter" of the animals. When it came to expressions of
respect for their leader, the Nazis did not have much sense of humor.
Judith
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
On 1/22/2025 11:35 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 1/22/2025 10:47 PM, Judith Latham wrote:
Fact: It was illegal for monkeys to give the Nazi salute
Perhaps the best takeoff on the Hitler greeting, however, was that of
a performer from Paderborn: he taught his trained chimpanzees to
extend their arms in Nazi fashion. (According to the performer's son,
the chimpanzees enjoyed doing this.) Every time the animals saw
someone in uniform, even a postman, they would give the Nazi salute.
This dadaistic coup of the Paderborn comic, who was a committed Social
Democrat, attracted the ire of his "racial comrades," who reported him
to the authorities. A directive was soon issued forbidding apes from
using the Hitler greeting, with the penalty for noncompliance being
the "slaugh-ter" of the animals. When it came to expressions of
respect for their leader, the Nazis did not have much sense of humor.
Judith
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
The leftist media feeds this crap to their followers who slavishly
believe it.
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
The leftist media feeds this crap to their followers who slavishly
believe it.
Le 24/01/2025 à 23:48, Fredxx a écrit :
On 24/01/2025 21:30, Andrew wrote:
On 24/01/2025 18:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/01/2025 16:27, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000Well the voting public have put Reform ahead of both the other mains
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did
every
wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but >>>>> they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't >>>>> really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem
able
to come up with anyone much better.
parties in a poll today.
The times they are a changin'
So that means 6 MP's next time round instead of 4.
No, unless the Tories wake up and smell the coffee of immigration they
will have 4 or 6 seats.
Reform are now ahead in the polls of both Labour and Tories. Next
parliament will be a hung with some minority leaders holding power in
exchange for knighthoods (again).
But... we voted for Brexit and that should have taken of immigration. Do
we need another Brexit?
When you have a president that want to be a dictator, it is easy to make the comparison.
On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 12:03:53 +0000, Orca Winfrey wrote:
Fredxx wrote:
On 24/01/2025 18:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:The government's NASA was ruined by lazy stupid DEI.
On 24/01/2025 16:54, Ed P wrote:
On 1/24/2025 11:49 AM, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:Money. Environmental benefits were secondary to making money. He is >>>>> good at that.
He inspires me to want to slash the tyres of all Teslas I findDoes seem a contradiction that the person who possibly has done the >>>>>> most to make the concept of an EV mainstream is on best buddy terms >>>>>> with a President who isn’t that keen on the green agenda and wants >>>>>> to increase oil production.
charging in Waitrose car parks.
Sadly? the EV charging bays are the only empty ones in my local
Waitrose.
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
GH
Yup. Elon saw massive subsidies going to EV manufacturers and jumped
on the gravy train.
He doesn't give a fuck himself.
Yes, he does like government subsidies and government money.
NASA has spent more than $13 billion on SpaceX over the last 20 years
so you can see why he's sucking up to Trump.
Musk's organization is meritocracy based.
With the required skill being ass licking of Musk.
Ed P wrote:
When you have a president that want to be a dictator, it is easy to
make the comparison.
Did you forget that it was Democrat Dictator Joe Poopypants Biden that
rolled out the mask and vaxxxine mandates?
Every employee has to suck cock. The high achievers swallow.
The masks were of course effectively
useless, but made people *feel* safe .
On 26/01/2025 12:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The masks were of course effectively useless, but made people *feel*
safe .
Feel free to continue show your ignorance and prejudice.
Most studies shows a decrease in transmission.
Just one example:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10446908/
Feel free to provide a link to a peer reviewed study that says otherwise.
Ed P wrote:
When you have a president that want to be a dictator, it is easy to
make the comparison.
Did you forget that it was Democrat Dictator Joe Poopypants Biden that
rolled out the mask and vaxxxine mandates?
On 26/01/2025 15:47, Fredxx wrote:
On 26/01/2025 12:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The masks were of course effectively useless, but made people *feel*
safe .
Feel free to continue show your ignorance and prejudice.
Most studies shows a decrease in transmission.
Just one example:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10446908/
Feel free to provide a link to a peer reviewed study that says otherwise.
Masks were only any use if they were high quality ones - not "use a
[woolly] scarf" as Matt Hancock said - properly used by trained medical professionals in a medical setting - e.g. a hospital - places full of diseases!
Even then I don't think the ones used by medics would stop the virus particles.
Research only looked at stopping "droplets" - as if anyone is going to
sneeze in one.
In public it was just "hygiene theatre" - the same goes for 2m spacing
and making everyone stay at home.
n public it was just "hygiene theatre" - the same goes for 2m spacing
and making everyone stay at home.
On 26/01/2025 11:30, Lizard Cheney wrote:
Ed P wrote:
When you have a president that want to be a dictator, it is easy to
make the comparison.
Did you forget that it was Democrat Dictator Joe Poopypants Biden that
rolled out the mask and vaxxxine mandates?
Someone mentions Musk, and all these strange loonies come out of the woodwork.
It's upsetting for our home-grown err... eccentrics.
On 26/01/2025 17:52, Max Demian wrote:
On 26/01/2025 15:47, Fredxx wrote:
On 26/01/2025 12:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:Masks were only any use if they were high quality ones - not "use a
The masks were of course effectively useless, but made people *feel*
safe .
Feel free to continue show your ignorance and prejudice.
Most studies shows a decrease in transmission.
Just one example:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10446908/
Feel free to provide a link to a peer reviewed study that says otherwise. >>
[woolly] scarf" as Matt Hancock said - properly used by trained medical
professionals in a medical setting - e.g. a hospital - places full of
diseases!
Even then I don't think the ones used by medics would stop the virus
particles.
Research only looked at stopping "droplets" - as if anyone is going to
sneeze in one.
In public it was just "hygiene theatre" - the same goes for 2m spacing
and making everyone stay at home.
At the time (early 2020) I looked into the use of masks and from what I
read at the time common surgical masks were only of use in cutting down infection *from* the wearer to anyone else (which, of course, was their intended use in operating theatres). Scarves and other home-made masks
worn over the mouth had a similar but lesser effect. All masks of that
type had little effectiveness in prevent the wearer getting infected.
Other than full "respiratory-type" masks, the best option was FFP3 (N99
in the USA) type masks to prevent the wearer getting infected. FFP2
(N95) were of less use as they removed less infected material than FFP3.
I settled for valved FFP3 masks, but was told they would not be allowed inside hospitals as they only prevented the wearer from infection, not
the wearer passing on Covid if they had it! A few months later I changed
to unvalved FFP3 masks (now used only as dust masks until Covid raises
its head again).
On 26/01/2025 11:30, Lizard Cheney wrote:
Ed P wrote:
When you have a president that want to be a dictator, it is easy to make the comparison.
Did you forget that it was Democrat Dictator Joe Poopypants Biden that rolled out the mask and vaxxxine mandates?
Someone mentions Musk, and all these strange loonies come out of the woodwork.
It's upsetting for our home-grown err... eccentrics.
On 1/26/2025 3:01 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 26/01/2025 11:30, Lizard Cheney wrote:
Ed P wrote:
When you have a president that want to be a dictator, it is easy to make the comparison.
Did you forget that it was Democrat Dictator Joe Poopypants Biden that rolled out the mask and vaxxxine mandates?
Someone mentions Musk, and all these strange loonies come out of the woodwork.
It's upsetting for our home-grown err... eccentrics.
I like this line:
https://tinyurl.com/bdeyr86r
“Elon Musk was criticised for his speech at a rally after the inauguration in which he appears to give the Nazi salute. But come on, Elon Musk
is not a Nazi,” Che said of the man behind the much maligned Cybertruck. “The Nazis made nice cars,” quipped Che, referencing the origins of
Volkswagen.
On 25/01/2025 11:23, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Le 24/01/2025 à 23:48, Fredxx a écrit :
On 24/01/2025 21:30, Andrew wrote:
On 24/01/2025 18:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/01/2025 16:27, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000Well the voting public have put Reform ahead of both the other
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did
every
wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but >>>>>> they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't >>>>>> really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem >>>>>> able
to come up with anyone much better.
mains parties in a poll today.
The times they are a changin'
So that means 6 MP's next time round instead of 4.
No, unless the Tories wake up and smell the coffee of immigration
they will have 4 or 6 seats.
Reform are now ahead in the polls of both Labour and Tories. Next
parliament will be a hung with some minority leaders holding power in
exchange for knighthoods (again).
But... we voted for Brexit and that should have taken of immigration.
Do we need another Brexit?
No, it gave Parliament control over immigration.
Ed P wrote:
On 1/26/2025 3:01 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 26/01/2025 11:30, Lizard Cheney wrote:
Ed P wrote:
When you have a president that want to be a dictator, it is easy to
make the comparison.
Did you forget that it was Democrat Dictator Joe Poopypants Biden
that rolled out the mask and vaxxxine mandates?
Someone mentions Musk, and all these strange loonies come out of the
woodwork.
It's upsetting for our home-grown err... eccentrics.
I like this line:
https://tinyurl.com/bdeyr86r
“Elon Musk was criticised for his speech at a rally after the
inauguration in which he appears to give the Nazi salute. But come on,
Elon Musk is not a Nazi,” Che said of the man behind the much maligned
Cybertruck. “The Nazis made nice cars,” quipped Che, referencing the
origins of Volkswagen.
But the lefty libturds loved Elon when the dictator Democrats were busy outlawing gas stoves, weed whackers, lawn mowers and rolling out the EV mandates.
Elon didn't change. What happened?
Did you see he suggested changing the English Channel name to George Washington Canal? Hopefully, that was said in jest but I'd not trust him.
On 1/22/2025 10:47 PM, Judith Latham wrote:
Fact: It was illegal for monkeys to give the Nazi salute
Perhaps the best takeoff on the Hitler greeting, however, was that of
a performer from Paderborn: he taught his trained chimpanzees to
extend their arms in Nazi fashion. (According to the performer's son,
the chimpanzees enjoyed doing this.) Every time the animals saw
someone in uniform, even a postman, they would give the Nazi salute.
This dadaistic coup of the Paderborn comic, who was a committed Social
Democrat, attracted the ire of his "racial comrades," who reported him
to the authorities. A directive was soon issued forbidding apes from
using the Hitler greeting, with the penalty for noncompliance being
the "slaugh-ter" of the animals. When it came to expressions of
respect for their leader, the Nazis did not have much sense of humor.
Judith
How about Elon Musk? He is getting a lot of flack about his raised arm.
On 26/01/2025 17:52, Max Demian wrote:
n public it was just "hygiene theatre" - the same goes for 2m spacing
and making everyone stay at home.
No. Staying at home I never caught anything that I know of.
But I did catch stuff when I went to the supermarket, but whether that
was Covid or not I can't say. I had all the jabs and never tested
positive for anything, but I was never sick enough to bother to test
anyway.
On 1/26/2025 3:01 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 26/01/2025 11:30, Lizard Cheney wrote:
Ed P wrote:
When you have a president that want to be a dictator, it is easy to
make the comparison.
Did you forget that it was Democrat Dictator Joe Poopypants Biden
that rolled out the mask and vaxxxine mandates?
Someone mentions Musk, and all these strange loonies come out of the
woodwork.
It's upsetting for our home-grown err... eccentrics.
I like this line:
https://tinyurl.com/bdeyr86r
“Elon Musk was criticised for his speech at a rally after the
inauguration in which he appears to give the Nazi salute. But come on,
Elon Musk is not a Nazi,” Che said of the man behind the much maligned Cybertruck. “The Nazis made nice cars,” quipped Che, referencing the origins of Volkswagen.
On 25/01/2025 11:23, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Le 24/01/2025 à 23:48, Fredxx a écrit :
On 24/01/2025 21:30, Andrew wrote:
On 24/01/2025 18:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/01/2025 16:27, Joe wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:01 +0000Well the voting public have put Reform ahead of both the other
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
As with Trump, the guy is a complete cunt, but even so they may
actually do some good despite themselves.
He seems to be mostly doing right things, whereas Biden/Obama did
every
wrong thing they could find. We don't expect much of politicians, but >>>>>> they really shouldn't behave like spoilt two-year-olds. And we can't >>>>>> really criticise the Americans, the powers that be here don't seem >>>>>> able
to come up with anyone much better.
mains parties in a poll today.
The times they are a changin'
So that means 6 MP's next time round instead of 4.
No, unless the Tories wake up and smell the coffee of immigration
they will have 4 or 6 seats.
Reform are now ahead in the polls of both Labour and Tories. Next
parliament will be a hung with some minority leaders holding power in
exchange for knighthoods (again).
But... we voted for Brexit and that should have taken of immigration.
Do we need another Brexit?
No, it gave Parliament control over immigration.
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