Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm wondering whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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On 1/29/25 07:38, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated
amplifier and speakers?

Surely the main purpose of an amplifier is to drive the speakers? i.e
boost the power to the point it can drive a speaker coil. WiFi speakers
just combine an amplifier with each speaker.

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.

Yes, Why?

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 07:38:45 +0000, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm wondering whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and
quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers.html? mc=05_PS_WS_BO_00_GO_&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInvPF3MOaiwMVKKJQBh1zrAOOEAAYASAAEgJIIPD
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On 29/01/2025 08:53, Pancho wrote:

Surely the main purpose of an amplifier is to drive the speakers? i.e
boost the power to the point it can drive a speaker coil. WiFi speakers
just combine an amplifier with each speaker.

And possibly replacing one problem with another as each speaker will
require a source of (mains) power.


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On 29 Jan 2025 at 08:40:17 GMT, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 07:38:45 +0000, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and> quality. >>
(posted to uk.rec.audio)

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers.html? mc=05_PS_WS_BO_00_GO_&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInvPF3MOaiwMVKKJQBh1zrAO OEAAYASAAEgJIIPD
_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks, yes, but for 2 things:

How does the existing amplifier communicate with the BT speakers?

She wants to keep the existing amplfier and speakers.
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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On 29 Jan 2025 at 08:53:51 GMT, Pancho wrote:

On 1/29/25 07:38, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated
amplifier and speakers?

Surely the main purpose of an amplifier is to drive the speakers? i.e
boost the power to the point it can drive a speaker coil. WiFi speakers
just combine an amplifier with each speaker.

Indeed.

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.> Yes, Why?

I'd rather not go there too far. Just to say she's neurodivergent and I've found it's best just to answer the questions asked. I think she wants to stick with the interface and aesthetics of her existing system, but has become confounded by the tangle of loudspeaker wires.

Once I've exhausted the possibility of wireless connectivity, I'll start to introduce flat and concealed speaker cables.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

I'd rather not go there too far. Just to say she's neurodivergent and I've found it's best just to answer the questions asked. I think she wants to stick
with the interface and aesthetics of her existing system, but has become confounded by the tangle of loudspeaker wires.

Once I've exhausted the possibility of wireless connectivity, I'll start to introduce flat and concealed speaker cables.

Assuming the existing amp is more than an amp, it's a mixer between
different sound sources and that's the interface she wants to keep, I'd have thought it would be technically possible to do that.

Take the speaker outputs from the existing amp, run them into something that impedance matches the speaker output to that of a headphone jack (audio transformer? eg 8 ohm to 32 ohm), and then feed that into a wireless transmitter. I don't know what kind of transmitter but I'm guessing there
are point to point raw 868 or 2.4GHz things with lower latency than say Bluetooth.

At the other end, recover the audio signal and feed into a new amp by the speaker(s) that's externally powered. Set the audio volume on this new amp
to be fixed, so twiddling the volume on the original amp controls the
main volume.

If the speakers are far apart and you can't put a wire between them, maybe
you need a stereo to 2x mono splitter, two mono wireless links and to avoid them interfering. Plus two amps.

I think the stumbling block is going to be if there aren't power sockets
near the speaker locations, as then you'd have to trail power cables which
is worse than trailing speaker cables.

But it's a lot of kit. I might be tempted to get a sample of flat
speaker cable, slip it under the carpet and see if she notices it's there.
If not you can do the big reveal and say 'tada, doing it this way will cost £20 not £200'.

Theo

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On 29/01/2025 07:38, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated
amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

Basically no. There needs to be a significant transfer of power. And
wires are the simple way to do it.
The other alternative would be mains power loudspeakers, and transmit
the signal some other way, but then , you have mains wires instead...,

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RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated
amplifier and speakers?

Yes, but it'll probably save a lot of going round the houses to know
what the existing setup is?

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RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated
amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

https://marmitek.com/en-gb/products/surround-anywhere-221-wireless-speakers-connection

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On 29/01/2025 08:40, jon wrote:

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

BOSE stands for "Beats Only Saddest Electronics"

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On 29/01/2025 09:05, alan_m wrote:

On 29/01/2025 08:53, Pancho wrote:

Surely the main purpose of an amplifier is to drive the speakers? i.e
boost the power to the point it can drive a speaker coil. WiFi
speakers just combine an amplifier with each speaker.

And possibly replacing one problem with another as each speaker will
require a source of (mains) power.

+1
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On 29/01/2025 10:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 29/01/2025 09:53, mm0fmf wrote:

On 29/01/2025 08:40, jon wrote:

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

BOSE stands for "Beats Only Saddest Electronics"

Bullshit, overpriced, styled Electronics

Some of their sound reinforcement/PA speakers are good. But their Hi-Fi speakers are at best Mid-Fi and mainly they're Shite-Fi.

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On 29/01/2025 09:27, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 08:40:17 GMT, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 07:38:45 +0000, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and> quality. >>>
(posted to uk.rec.audio)

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers.html?
mc=05_PS_WS_BO_00_GO_&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInvPF3MOaiwMVKKJQBh1zrAO >> OEAAYASAAEgJIIPD
_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks, yes, but for 2 things:

How does the existing amplifier communicate with the BT speakers?

She wants to keep the existing amplfier and speakers.

She is not going to get (exactly) what she wants then :-)

If you want a wireless connection to a speaker, then the speaker will
need to be "active" - i.e. have its own amplifier. Now you could add an additional amp to the speakers, and then use a wireless transmitter to communicated it, *and* make sure that the transmitter also allows a high
level input, such that you can drive it from the speaker terminals of
the main amp[1]. That would create the impression of a wireless speaker connection that still uses the same amp.

[1] If the amp has a tape monitor output, then you could use that to
feed a more conventional sender that expects line level inputs.


--
Cheers,

John.

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On 29/01/2025 10:01, Theo wrote:

Take the speaker outputs from the existing amp, run them into something that impedance matches the speaker output to that of a headphone jack (audio transformer? eg 8 ohm to 32 ohm), and then feed that into a wireless transmitter.

Or just use the line out/tape loop from the amp.

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On 29/01/2025 10:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 29/01/2025 07:38, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated
amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

Basically no. There needs to be a significant transfer of power. And
wires are the simple way to do it.
The other alternative would be mains power loudspeakers, and transmit
the signal some other way, but then , you have mains wires instead...,

Surely there's something for at least ten grand that Russ Andrews could
sell her. ;-)

--
Jeff

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On 29/01/2025 09:59, No mail wrote:

RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated
amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

https://marmitek.com/en-gb/products/surround-anywhere-221-wireless- speakers-connection

The OP doesn't give details of the existing equipment or how many
speakers but with the above marmitek I would be a bit worried about
connecting it to the output speaker terminals of say a typical mid/high
order AV amp*. The input to the transmitter is specified at

Audio Input Level (Max) 11 V (RMS ) @ 120 ohm

A power amp with a FET output stage may produce a lot more than 11V rms.

I'm assuming that this may be the case if the budget is around £1K for
the modification.

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:27:42 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 08:40:17 GMT, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 07:38:45 +0000, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and>
quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers.html?

mc=05_PS_WS_BO_00_GO_&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInvPF3MOaiwMVKKJQBh1zrAO

OEAAYASAAEgJIIPD _BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks, yes, but for 2 things:

How does the existing amplifier communicate with the BT speakers?

She wants to keep the existing amplfier and speakers.

My Sonos speakers connect via the WiFi hub

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On 29 Jan 2025 at 11:41:26 GMT, alan_m wrote:

On 29/01/2025 09:59, No mail wrote:

RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated
amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.> (posted to
uk.rec.audio)

https://marmitek.com/en-gb/products/surround-anywhere-221-wireless-
speakers-connection

Impressive - rather vague on spec: '2 x 25W RMS'. Even so, from something weighing 100g, not bad.

The OP doesn't give details of the existing equipment or how many
speakers

It's an old base model Arcam amp - maybe 20 years old. Entirely analogue and one pair of speakers.

but with the above marmitek I would be a bit worried about
connecting it to the output speaker terminals of say a typical mid/high
order AV amp*. The input to the transmitter is specified at

Audio Input Level (Max) 11 V (RMS ) @ 120 ohm

A power amp with a FET output stage may produce a lot more than 11V rms.

I'm assuming that this may be the case if the budget is around £1K for
the modification.

Yes - the transmitter does seem to be doing a lot of work too, somehow dealing with loudspeaker outputs.

Decent enough reviews:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Rear-Speaker-Kit-Connection-Anthracite/dp/B077K1D8TK

All in all, looks to be just the thing, thanks.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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On 29/01/2025 12:54, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 11:41:26 GMT, alan_m wrote:

On 29/01/2025 09:59, No mail wrote:

RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated
amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.> (posted to
uk.rec.audio)

https://marmitek.com/en-gb/products/surround-anywhere-221-wireless-
speakers-connection

Impressive - rather vague on spec: '2 x 25W RMS'. Even so, from something weighing 100g, not bad.

The OP doesn't give details of the existing equipment or how many
speakers

It's an old base model Arcam amp - maybe 20 years old. Entirely analogue and one pair of speakers.

but with the above marmitek I would be a bit worried about
connecting it to the output speaker terminals of say a typical mid/high
order AV amp*. The input to the transmitter is specified at

Audio Input Level (Max) 11 V (RMS ) @ 120 ohm

A power amp with a FET output stage may produce a lot more than 11V rms.

I'm assuming that this may be the case if the budget is around £1K for
the modification.

Yes - the transmitter does seem to be doing a lot of work too, somehow dealing
with loudspeaker outputs.

Decent enough reviews:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Rear-Speaker-Kit-Connection-Anthracite/dp/B077K1D8TK

All in all, looks to be just the thing, thanks.

Possibly OK for rear speaker but are they suitable for the main
speakers? In a surround sound system the rear speakers are not as
critical in terms of quality (or power) as the front left, right and
centre speakers.
The spec gives total harmonic distortion < 0.5% @ 1 W but nothing at 25W.


I assume that the two front speakers are either side of a room/tv/etc.
so using one TX/RX you are only going to save one pair of speaker wires
as both speakers would need to connected to the back of the RX unit via
cable, with on speaker having a long cable. This is assuming that you
not going to have one Tx/Rx pair of boxes per speaker.



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On 29/01/2025 12:54, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 11:41:26 GMT, alan_m wrote:

On 29/01/2025 09:59, No mail wrote:

RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated
amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.> (posted to
uk.rec.audio)

https://marmitek.com/en-gb/products/surround-anywhere-221-wireless-
speakers-connection

Impressive - rather vague on spec: '2 x 25W RMS'. Even so, from something weighing 100g, not bad.

The OP doesn't give details of the existing equipment or how many
speakers

It's an old base model Arcam amp - maybe 20 years old. Entirely analogue and one pair of speakers.

but with the above marmitek I would be a bit worried about
connecting it to the output speaker terminals of say a typical mid/high
order AV amp*. The input to the transmitter is specified at

Audio Input Level (Max) 11 V (RMS ) @ 120 ohm

A power amp with a FET output stage may produce a lot more than 11V rms.

I'm assuming that this may be the case if the budget is around £1K for
the modification.

Yes - the transmitter does seem to be doing a lot of work too, somehow dealing
with loudspeaker outputs.

Decent enough reviews:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Rear-Speaker-Kit-Connection-Anthracite/dp/B077K1D8TK

All in all, looks to be just the thing, thanks.

"Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."

They point to <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IJYG4FY> as an alternative.

--
Jeff

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On 29 Jan 2025 at 12:45:40 GMT, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:27:42 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 08:40:17 GMT, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 07:38:45 +0000, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and>
quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers.html?

mc=05_PS_WS_BO_00_GO_&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInvPF3MOaiwMVKKJQBh1zrAO

OEAAYASAAEgJIIPD _BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks, yes, but for 2 things:

How does the existing amplifier communicate with the BT speakers?

She wants to keep the existing amplfier and speakers.

My Sonos speakers connect via the WiFi hub

How does the existing amplifier communicate with the wireless speakers?
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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On 29 Jan 2025 at 13:51:17 GMT, alan_m wrote:

On 29/01/2025 12:54, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 11:41:26 GMT, alan_m wrote:

On 29/01/2025 09:59, No mail wrote:

RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated
amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm >>>>> wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.> (posted to
uk.rec.audio)

https://marmitek.com/en-gb/products/surround-anywhere-221-wireless-
speakers-connection

Impressive - rather vague on spec: '2 x 25W RMS'. Even so, from something
weighing 100g, not bad.

The OP doesn't give details of the existing equipment or how many
speakers

It's an old base model Arcam amp - maybe 20 years old. Entirely analogue and >> one pair of speakers.

but with the above marmitek I would be a bit worried about
connecting it to the output speaker terminals of say a typical mid/high
order AV amp*. The input to the transmitter is specified at

Audio Input Level (Max) 11 V (RMS ) @ 120 ohm

A power amp with a FET output stage may produce a lot more than 11V rms. >>>
I'm assuming that this may be the case if the budget is around £1K for
the modification.

Yes - the transmitter does seem to be doing a lot of work too, somehow dealing
with loudspeaker outputs.

Decent enough reviews:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Rear-Speaker-Kit-Connection-Anthracite/dp/B077K1D8TK

All in all, looks to be just the thing, thanks.

Possibly OK for rear speaker but are they suitable for the main
speakers? In a surround sound system the rear speakers are not as
critical in terms of quality (or power) as the front left, right and
centre speakers.

I think that'd be a marketing device - it's aimed at users of surround speakers. Surround speakers aren't intrinsically any different load-wise than any other speakers. Often the rear speakers are identical to the
manufacturer's front/stand mount speakers.

The spec gives total harmonic distortion <0.5% @ 1 W but nothing at 25W.>

OK, thanks - that's not brilliant.

I assume that the two front speakers are either side of a room/tv/etc.

Yes. The problem is the distance between the speakers and the stereo
amplifier.

so using one TX/RX you are only going to save one pair of speaker wires
as both speakers would need to connected to the back of the RX unit via cable, with on speaker having a long cable.

Ah yes, good point. As it happens, I don't think that'd be a problem in this case. The speakers are quite close together on a big bookshelf.

This is assuming that you
not going to have one Tx/Rx pair of boxes per speaker.

--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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On 29/01/2025 12:45, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:27:42 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 08:40:17 GMT, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 07:38:45 +0000, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm
wondering whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and>
quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers.html?

mc=05_PS_WS_BO_00_GO_&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInvPF3MOaiwMVKKJQBh1zrAO

OEAAYASAAEgJIIPD _BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks, yes, but for 2 things:

How does the existing amplifier communicate with the BT speakers?

She wants to keep the existing amplfier and speakers.

My Sonos speakers connect via the WiFi hub

https://en.community.sonos.com/general-feedback-and-conversation-229090/new-sonos-update-appalling-terrible-disastrous-6894285

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On 29/01/2025 09:30, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 08:53:51 GMT, Pancho wrote:

On 1/29/25 07:38, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional integrated
amplifier and speakers?

Surely the main purpose of an amplifier is to drive the speakers? i.e
boost the power to the point it can drive a speaker coil. WiFi speakers
just combine an amplifier with each speaker.

Indeed.

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm wondering
whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and quality.> Yes, Why?

I'd rather not go there too far. Just to say she's neurodivergent

What was she *before* this wierd, new description appeared ?.

Just wondering.

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:27:34 +0000, Andrew wrote:

On 29/01/2025 12:45, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:27:42 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 29 Jan 2025 at 08:40:17 GMT, jon wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 07:38:45 +0000, RJH wrote:

Is it possible to remove the need for cables between a conventional
integrated amplifier and speakers?

I realise this does raise the question 'why', but for the moment I'm >>>>> wondering whether it's possible for reasonable cost (<£1000) and>
quality.

(posted to uk.rec.audio)

My Sonos speakers are wireless, but would recommend Bose.

https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers.html?

mc=05_PS_WS_BO_00_GO_&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInvPF3MOaiwMVKKJQBh1zrAO >>>> OEAAYASAAEgJIIPD _BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks, yes, but for 2 things:

How does the existing amplifier communicate with the BT speakers?

She wants to keep the existing amplfier and speakers.

My Sonos speakers connect via the WiFi hub

https://en.community.sonos.com/general-feedback-and-conversation-229090/

new-sonos-update-appalling-terrible-disastrous-6894285

Don't get Sonos what ever you do.

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On 30/01/2025 18:29, Andrew wrote:

I'd rather not go there too far. Just to say she's neurodivergent

What was she *before* this wierd, new description appeared ?.

Just wondering.

"Batshit crazy"
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intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is
futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
power-directed system of thought.”
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