• Removing head from 1970's bathroom tap

    From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 30 16:30:07 2025
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu Jan 30 16:39:18 2025
    Andrew wrote:

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green- avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html? imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    I was going to say, I'd expect see see a grub-scren on the head, but if
    you already know that, then use a spray to clean the grot out of the
    hole, get a torch and look closer for the screw head is all I can think

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu Jan 30 17:01:34 2025
    On 30/01/2025 16:30, Andrew wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew

    On those types of taps the top is a cover (the bit with the H and C) can
    be prized off with a craft knife blade to reveal the screw that holds
    the tap head to the spindle.

    Otherwise try a smart mobile phone to take a photo down the hole and
    then expand (zoom in) the resulting photo. You may need to take the
    photo from a foot away and have the flash on (or turn on the phone light).

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 30 17:15:29 2025
    On 30/01/2025 17:01, alan_m wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 16:30, Andrew wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew

    On those types of taps the top is a cover (the bit with the H and C) can
    be prized off with a craft knife blade to reveal the screw that holds
    the tap head to the spindle.

    Err, no. The bath taps are like that but the sink taps have a small
    hole in the side of the handle and there is some sort of screw that
    engages with the side of the spline (I guess).

    Otherwise try a smart mobile phone to take a photo down the hole and
    then expand (zoom in) the resulting photo. You may need to take the
    photo from a foot away and have the flash on (or turn on the phone light).


    The hole is about 1/8th of an inch. Almost impossible to see what
    is deep inside. I suspect it is full of 49 years of soap and gunge

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  • From Another John@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu Jan 30 18:12:04 2025
    On 30 Jan 2025 at 17:15:29 GMT, "Andrew" <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

    On 30/01/2025 17:01, alan_m wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 16:30, Andrew wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew

    On those types of taps the top is a cover (the bit with the H and C) can
    be prized off with a craft knife blade to reveal the screw that holds
    the tap head to the spindle.

    Err, no. The bath taps are like that but the sink taps have a small
    hole in the side of the handle and there is some sort of screw that
    engages with the side of the spline (I guess).

    Otherwise try a smart mobile phone to take a photo down the hole and
    then expand (zoom in) the resulting photo. You may need to take the
    photo from a foot away and have the flash on (or turn on the phone light). >>

    The hole is about 1/8th of an inch. Almost impossible to see what
    is deep inside. I suspect it is full of 49 years of soap and gunge

    I've got taps like that (in your photo) on my ancient 2nd hand sink ... _like_ that, not precisely the same. Mine just lift off (cf the post re levering it).
    How much levering space have you got: knife-thin, or not-so-thin: tht has a bearing on what tool you use, and how much force, to _investigate_ the possibility of levering it up (as opposed to making the b_____d move with a
    big tool).

    But your 1/8" hole might indeed hide a screw, and in my experience with old taps that old, the screw is a simply slothead. Obviously you need to scrape around with a pointy thing: have you a set of darts?

    Good luck - what fun!
    John

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  • From Dave W@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 30 18:25:46 2025
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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Dave W on Thu Jan 30 18:39:07 2025
    On 30/01/2025 18:25, Dave W wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 17:15:29 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    On 30/01/2025 17:01, alan_m wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 16:30, Andrew wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew

    On those types of taps the top is a cover (the bit with the H and C) can >>> be prized off with a craft knife blade to reveal the screw that holds
    the tap head to the spindle.

    Err, no. The bath taps are like that but the sink taps have a small
    hole in the side of the handle and there is some sort of screw that
    engages with the side of the spline (I guess).

    Otherwise try a smart mobile phone to take a photo down the hole and
    then expand (zoom in) the resulting photo. You may need to take the
    photo from a foot away and have the flash on (or turn on the phone light). >>>

    The hole is about 1/8th of an inch. Almost impossible to see what
    is deep inside. I suspect it is full of 49 years of soap and gunge

    I was going to look at my sink taps which look the same as your
    picture, metal with plastic tops, but now you say the taps are not
    like the picture. How about giving the correct picture, either from
    online or taken by yourself showing enough to identify the model?

    I don't have an account where I could post a picture though.

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu Jan 30 18:50:42 2025
    On 30/01/2025 18:39, Andrew wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 18:25, Dave W wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 17:15:29 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    On 30/01/2025 17:01, alan_m wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 16:30, Andrew wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew

    On those types of taps the top is a cover (the bit with the H and C) can >>>> be prized off with a craft knife blade to reveal the screw that holds
    the tap head to the spindle.

    Err, no. The bath taps are like that but the sink taps have a small
    hole in the side of the handle and there is some sort of screw that
    engages with the side of the spline (I guess).

    Otherwise try a smart mobile phone to take a photo down the hole and
    then expand (zoom in) the resulting photo. You may need to take the
    photo from a foot away and have the flash on (or turn on the phone light). >>>>

    The hole is about 1/8th of an inch. Almost impossible to see what
    is deep inside. I suspect it is full of 49 years of soap and gunge

    I was going to look at my sink taps which look the same as your
    picture, metal with plastic tops, but now you say the taps are not
    like the picture. How about giving the correct picture, either from
    online or taken by yourself showing enough to identify the model?

    I don't have an account where I could post a picture though.

    <https://imgbb.com/>
    You can download quite a few photos for free.

    --
    Jeff

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Andrew on Thu Jan 30 19:26:02 2025
    Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 17:01, alan_m wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 16:30, Andrew wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew

    On those types of taps the top is a cover (the bit with the H and C) can
    be prized off with a craft knife blade to reveal the screw that holds
    the tap head to the spindle.

    Err, no. The bath taps are like that but the sink taps have a small
    hole in the side of the handle and there is some sort of screw that
    engages with the side of the spline (I guess).

    Otherwise try a smart mobile phone to take a photo down the hole and
    then expand (zoom in) the resulting photo. You may need to take the
    photo from a foot away and have the flash on (or turn on the phone light). >>

    The hole is about 1/8th of an inch. Almost impossible to see what
    is deep inside. I suspect it is full of 49 years of soap and gunge


    Have you tried metric AND imperial Allen keys?

    After 49 years it may well be that they’ll never budge though.

    Tim

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  • From Dave W@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 30 21:24:31 2025
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Jan 30 22:38:19 2025
    On 30/01/2025 16:39, Andy Burns wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green- avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html? imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    I was going to say, I'd expect see see a grub-scren on the head, but if
    you already know that, then use a spray to clean the grot out of the
    hole, get a torch and look closer for the screw head is all I can think

    All my taps have removable caps and a countersunk head plain slot underneath

    They do get scaled up and corroded though.

    In many cases I just replace the taps. That design is as common as muck
    and pretty cheap

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  • From No mail@21:1/5 to Andrew on Fri Jan 31 09:49:08 2025
    Andrew wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p


    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew
    Even if you can find something to fit the whateveritis, IME the
    likelihood of being able to turn it and get the head off is fairly low
    after all this time. Taps like this are surprisingly cheap so I would
    just replace them - if you have half-decent pressure you could treat
    yourself to ceramic quarter-turn taps.

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  • From John Rumm@21:1/5 to Andrew on Fri Jan 31 12:19:45 2025
    On 30/01/2025 18:39, Andrew wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 18:25, Dave W wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 17:15:29 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    On 30/01/2025 17:01, alan_m wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 16:30, Andrew wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-
    green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?
    imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew

    On those types of taps the top is a cover (the bit with the H and C)
    can
    be prized off with a craft knife blade to reveal the screw that holds
    the tap head to the spindle.

    Err, no. The bath taps are like that but the sink taps have a small
    hole in the side of the handle and there is some sort of screw that
    engages with the side of the spline (I guess).

    Otherwise try a smart mobile phone to take a photo down the hole and
    then expand (zoom in) the resulting photo. You may need to take the
    photo from a foot away and have the flash on (or turn on the phone
    light).


    The hole is about 1/8th of an inch. Almost impossible to see what
    is deep inside. I suspect it is full of 49 years of soap and gunge

    I was going to look at my sink taps which look the same as your
    picture, metal with plastic tops, but now you say the taps are not
    like the picture. How about giving the correct picture, either from
    online or taken by yourself showing enough to identify the model?

    I don't have an account where I could post a picture though.

    Drop me an email, and I will create an account for you on the DIY wiki -
    you can upload images there.

    (or failing that, order a set of taps from screwfix or similar!)


    --
    Cheers,

    John.

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Andrew on Fri Jan 31 18:21:04 2025
    Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:
    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.

    Andrew


    We had taps which looked identical in this house when we bought it.

    The cap on the top pops out.

    There is a screw ( Cross head on ours) under it.

    The handle can then be pulled off ( up).

    You can then see the tap head.

    To remove it, hold the spout and use a large spanner on the hex nut like
    body.

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 1 13:18:21 2025
    On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 16:30:07 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    Hello

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green-avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html?imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    Any ideas.

    Shining a light into the hole is no use, I struggle to see
    small things now.


    On ours the spindle has a flat and the grub screw connects with that,
    but the grub screws, maybe replaced over the years, have a head and if
    I replace one I get away with using small screws used in computers.

    My guess is that the head has been snapped off in a previous attempt
    to undo the grub screw and what you are left with is a broken piece of
    thread. You might have to try and drill it out taken care if you can
    to avoid damaging the outer thread.


    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Sat Feb 1 21:29:56 2025
    On 30/01/2025 22:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 16:39, Andy Burns wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green- avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html? imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    I was going to say, I'd expect see see a grub-scren on the head, but
    if you already know that, then use a spray to clean the grot out of
    the hole, get a torch and look closer for the screw head is all I can
    think

    All my taps have removable caps and a countersunk head plain slot
    underneath

    The bath taps are like that, the basin taps are annoyingly
    different.

    My ex-car mechanic neighbour says he has a whole set of
    allen keys of various sizes so I'll try them after the
    WD40 has had a good soak.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Andrew on Sun Feb 2 10:14:03 2025
    On 01/02/2025 21:29, Andrew wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 22:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/01/2025 16:39, Andy Burns wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    I have bathroom sink taps that look very much like these -

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-top-view-of-classic-1970s-1980s-green- avocado-bathroom-suite-whb-from-76769678.html? imageid=AA23C190-942E-46CD-B47E-7139D8276B92&p

    I.e. The heads are metal, not plastic and there is a hole about
    an eighth inch diameter and deep inside is an allen grub screw,
    or a phillips grub screw or possibly a bog standard machine
    screw. I have poked a variety of allen keys, phillips/posidrive
    screwdrivers into the hole to no avail. Nothing seems to
    'engage'.

    I was going to say, I'd expect see see a grub-scren on the head, but
    if you already know that, then use a spray to clean the grot out of
    the hole, get a torch and look closer for the screw head is all I can
    think

    All my taps have removable caps and a countersunk head plain slot
    underneath

    The bath taps are like that, the basin taps are annoyingly
    different.

    My ex-car mechanic neighbour says he has a whole set of
    allen keys of various sizes so I'll try them after the
    WD40 has had a good soak.



    Even then if they are badly scaled up it may be very hard to get them
    apart without destroying them.
    These days I simply buy a new set of taps if I cant get them apart in
    less than 10 minutes.

    --
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    (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans,
    about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and
    the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a
    'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,'
    a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for
    rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
    things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
    you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.”

    Vaclav Klaus

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Another John on Sun Feb 2 19:52:35 2025
    On 30/01/2025 18:12, Another John wrote:

    I've got taps like that (in your photo) on my ancient 2nd hand sink ... _like_
    that, not precisely the same. Mine just lift off (cf the post re levering it).
    How much levering space have you got: knife-thin, or not-so-thin: tht has a bearing on what tool you use, and how much force, to _investigate_ the possibility of levering it up (as opposed to making the b_____d move with a big tool).

    But your 1/8" hole might indeed hide a screw, and in my experience with old taps that old, the screw is a simply slothead. Obviously you need to scrape around with a pointy thing: have you a set of darts?

    Good luck - what fun!
    John


    I'm 99% sure this is the right answer.

    Of course, even with the grub screw removed, the OP will have a hell of
    a job removing the tap handle.

    Personally, I would not bother with the damn grub screw. I'd grip the
    spout of the tap with some big grips (padded with a towel or summat) and
    I'd put a huge stilson on the handle, then undo the whole of the top of
    the tap. (Interesting if the water's not turned off first, of course.)

    Then replace the top of the tap with one of these:

    https://www.screwfix.com/p/swirl-bathroom-basin-contract-tap-reviver-kit/12204

    It takes a couple of minutes, and the jobs a good 'un.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to John Rumm on Sun Feb 2 19:55:43 2025
    On 31/01/2025 12:19, John Rumm wrote:

    Drop me an email, and I will create an account for you on the DIY wiki -
    you can upload images there.

    (or failing that, order a set of taps from screwfix or similar!)


    Even with the grub screw removed, it's really hard to remove the handle.

    I suggest sacrificing the handle, and using a tap reviver kit:

    https://www.screwfix.com/p/swirl-bathroom-basin-contract-tap-reviver-kit/12204

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