• Salford car on tracks

    From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 11:34:19 2025
    Looking at where the (drunk?) driver ended-up aross the tracks in Salford

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5gpqz6406o>

    It seems to have launched over a low crash barrier, knocked some metal "extensions" off the top of a wall and knocked parts of the concrete
    wall itself down onto the tracks in a cutting, the trajectory something
    like this

    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/ojtd2uVrSsMvLvqm7>

    I thought they beefed up the barriers around mainline tracks after the
    Selby crash?

    Somehow the Google streetcar seems to have managed to photograph inside
    itself?

    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/Jrz4iWiBfxsQDfmZ7>

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Feb 7 13:33:17 2025
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Looking at where the (drunk?) driver ended-up aross the tracks in Salford

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5gpqz6406o>

    It seems to have launched over a low crash barrier, knocked some metal "extensions" off the top of a wall and knocked parts of the concrete
    wall itself down onto the tracks in a cutting, the trajectory something
    like this

    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/ojtd2uVrSsMvLvqm7>

    I thought they beefed up the barriers around mainline tracks after the
    Selby crash?

    On motorways, where vehicles are travelling at speed and have lots of
    energy. This appears to be (just) off the motorway, and there was a
    concrete barrier. There are too many bridges to beef them up to deal with people doing 100mph in a 40 zone.

    Theo

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Feb 7 13:46:36 2025
    On 07/02/2025 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    Looking at where the (drunk?) driver ended-up aross the tracks in Salford

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5gpqz6406o>

    It seems to have launched over a low crash barrier, knocked some metal "extensions" off the top of a wall and knocked parts of the concrete
    wall itself down onto the tracks in a cutting, the trajectory something
    like this

    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/ojtd2uVrSsMvLvqm7>

    I thought they beefed up the barriers around mainline tracks after the
    Selby crash?

    Somehow the Google streetcar seems to have managed to photograph inside itself?

    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/Jrz4iWiBfxsQDfmZ7>

    That is very strange! If you drag the compass 180° round, you'll see
    through the back windscreen, and also that for some reason the "join" at
    360° is not aligned vertically.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Feb 7 17:58:47 2025
    On Fri, 07 Feb 2025 11:34:19 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

    Looking at where the (drunk?) driver ended-up aross the tracks in
    Salford

    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5gpqz6406o>

    It seems to have launched over a low crash barrier, knocked some metal "extensions" off the top of a wall and knocked parts of the concrete
    wall itself down onto the tracks in a cutting, the trajectory something
    like this

    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/ojtd2uVrSsMvLvqm7>

    I thought they beefed up the barriers around mainline tracks after the
    Selby crash?

    Somehow the Google streetcar seems to have managed to photograph inside itself?

    <https://maps.app.goo.gl/Jrz4iWiBfxsQDfmZ7>

    A tribute to the safety of modern cars.
    Through a wall at speed, then a drop to the tracks and landing upside down. Driver had minor injuries as far as I can tell.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From Mike Humphrey@21:1/5 to Theo on Fri Feb 7 18:44:53 2025
    On 07 Feb 2025 13:33:17 +0000 (GMT), Theo wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    I thought they beefed up the barriers around mainline tracks after the
    Selby crash?

    On motorways, where vehicles are travelling at speed and have lots of
    energy. This appears to be (just) off the motorway, and there was a
    concrete barrier. There are too many bridges to beef them up to deal
    with people doing 100mph in a 40 zone.

    The bridge the car crashed through is a footbridge - it's unlikely anyone
    would consider vehicles hitting it a significant risk as there's no road
    access to it. Plus the car hit it pretty much square on - barriers are
    designed to deflect vehicles leaving the road at an angle back onto the
    road, not resist a direct impact.

    Mike

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Mike Humphrey on Fri Feb 7 19:18:55 2025
    Mike Humphrey wrote:

    The bridge the car crashed through is a footbridge - it's unlikely anyone would consider vehicles hitting it a significant risk as there's no road access to it. Plus the car hit it pretty much square on - barriers are designed to deflect vehicles leaving the road at an angle back onto the
    road, not resist a direct impact.

    I seems to have vaulted a low section of Armco, flown through the metal sections of a wall on one side of that footbridge, and then bashed (as
    you say) straight into the wall on the other side of the footbridge ...

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Feb 9 10:48:44 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 19:18:55 +0000
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Mike Humphrey wrote:

    The bridge the car crashed through is a footbridge - it's unlikely
    anyone would consider vehicles hitting it a significant risk as
    there's no road access to it. Plus the car hit it pretty much
    square on - barriers are designed to deflect vehicles leaving the
    road at an angle back onto the road, not resist a direct impact.

    I seems to have vaulted a low section of Armco, flown through the
    metal sections of a wall on one side of that footbridge, and then
    bashed (as you say) straight into the wall on the other side of the footbridge ...


    As they say in the US, and semi-confirmed by the reports:
    "Alcohol may have been involved".

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Davey on Sun Feb 9 17:04:39 2025
    On 09/02/2025 10:48, Davey wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 19:18:55 +0000
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Mike Humphrey wrote:

    The bridge the car crashed through is a footbridge - it's unlikely
    anyone would consider vehicles hitting it a significant risk as
    there's no road access to it. Plus the car hit it pretty much
    square on - barriers are designed to deflect vehicles leaving the
    road at an angle back onto the road, not resist a direct impact.

    I seems to have vaulted a low section of Armco, flown through the
    metal sections of a wall on one side of that footbridge, and then
    bashed (as you say) straight into the wall on the other side of the
    footbridge ...


    As they say in the US, and semi-confirmed by the reports:
    "Alcohol may have been involved".


    Judging by the way the roof of the car had caved in, I'm amazed
    that he got away with just 'minor' injuries.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Andrew on Sun Feb 9 18:31:51 2025
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 17:04:39 +0000
    Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

    On 09/02/2025 10:48, Davey wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 19:18:55 +0000
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Mike Humphrey wrote:

    The bridge the car crashed through is a footbridge - it's unlikely
    anyone would consider vehicles hitting it a significant risk as
    there's no road access to it. Plus the car hit it pretty much
    square on - barriers are designed to deflect vehicles leaving the
    road at an angle back onto the road, not resist a direct impact.

    I seems to have vaulted a low section of Armco, flown through the
    metal sections of a wall on one side of that footbridge, and then
    bashed (as you say) straight into the wall on the other side of the
    footbridge ...


    As they say in the US, and semi-confirmed by the reports:
    "Alcohol may have been involved".


    Judging by the way the roof of the car had caved in, I'm amazed
    that he got away with just 'minor' injuries.

    I had trouble even confirming that it was a BMW>

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Andrew on Sun Feb 9 18:48:36 2025
    On 09/02/2025 17:04, Andrew wrote:
    On 09/02/2025 10:48, Davey wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 19:18:55 +0000
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Mike Humphrey wrote:

    The bridge the car crashed through is a footbridge - it's unlikely
    anyone would consider vehicles hitting it a significant risk as
    there's no road access to it. Plus the car hit it pretty much
    square on - barriers are designed to deflect vehicles leaving the
    road at an angle back onto the road, not resist a direct impact.

    I seems to have vaulted a low section of Armco, flown through the
    metal sections of a wall on one side of that footbridge, and then
    bashed (as you say) straight into the wall on the other side of the
    footbridge ...


    As they say in the US, and semi-confirmed by the reports:
    "Alcohol may have been involved".


    Judging by the way the roof of the car had caved in, I'm amazed
    that he got away with just 'minor' injuries.

    The way that was reported strongly suggested a feeling of
    "There ain't no justice!"

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    Sam Plusnet

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  • From Marland@21:1/5 to Davey on Sun Feb 9 20:20:50 2025
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:


    I had trouble even confirming that it was a BMW>

    Their Logo is discernible on a rear wheel.

    GH

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