• Re: Cheapest tool to make make (or drill) holes into a metal precision

    From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Thu Feb 13 13:07:48 2025
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have bought a metal precision straight rules for guitars, to check if
    the neck is properly aligned with the bridge.

    Somebody told me that I could drill or cut holes on one of the sides, so
    that the straight edge will take account of the frets to check the neck relief, but they mentioned routers, dremels, etc. I don't even know what
    they are, they probably cost a fortune and they make a lot of noise that could get me in trouble with neighbours.

    What is the cheapest tools that I could use? The metal rules is quite
    thick ( a couple of mms).

    Maybe a tool that I could reuse for something else?

    Or are there professionals that can do that for me at a reasonable price?


    Needle files

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Tricky Dicky on Thu Feb 13 14:58:56 2025
    On 13/02/2025 13:07, Tricky Dicky wrote:
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have bought a metal precision straight rules for guitars, to check if
    the neck is properly aligned with the bridge.

    Somebody told me that I could drill or cut holes on one of the sides, so
    that the straight edge will take account of the frets to check the neck
    relief, but they mentioned routers, dremels, etc. I don't even know what
    they are, they probably cost a fortune and they make a lot of noise that
    could get me in trouble with neighbours.

    What is the cheapest tools that I could use? The metal rules is quite
    thick ( a couple of mms).

    Maybe a tool that I could reuse for something else?

    Or are there professionals that can do that for me at a reasonable price?


    Needle files

    +1.
    Or you can buy a pre slotted straight edge https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notched-Straight-Fretboard-Strings-Luthier/dp/B0B25947NW/ref=asc_df_B0B25947NW
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  • From Alan J. Wylie@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Thu Feb 13 17:52:32 2025
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> writes:

    they mentioned routers, dremels, etc. I don't even know what they
    are, they probably cost a fortune and they make a lot of noise that
    could get me in trouble with neighbours.

    What is the cheapest tools that I could use? The metal rules is quite
    thick ( a couple of mms).

    A Dremel is a brand name for a "rotary tool". I think that Lidl were
    doing a cordless one for £15 in the last couple of weeks, there might
    still be some on the shelves. They don't make much noise, neighbours are
    very unlikely to even notice.

    It will spin a tiny (e.g. 5mm dia) grinding wheel at 10's of thousands
    of RPM. Lots are advertised on eBay if you want to see what one looks
    like.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Feb 13 20:44:59 2025
    On 13/02/2025 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 13/02/2025 13:07, Tricky Dicky wrote:
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have bought a metal precision straight rules for guitars, to check if
    the neck is properly aligned with the bridge.

    Somebody told me that I could drill or cut holes on one of the sides, so >>> that the straight edge will take account of the frets to check the neck
    relief, but they mentioned routers, dremels, etc. I don't even know what >>> they are, they probably cost a fortune and they make a lot of noise that >>> could get me in trouble with neighbours.

    What is the cheapest tools that I could use? The metal rules is quite
    thick ( a couple of mms).

    Maybe a tool that I could reuse for something else?

    Or are there professionals that can do that for me at a reasonable
    price?


    Needle files

    +1.
    Or you can buy a pre slotted straight edge https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notched-Straight-Fretboard-Strings-Luthier/dp/ B0B25947NW/ref=asc_df_B0B25947NW


    I am not a guitarist, but I'd have thought you'd want the tops of the
    frets to be in a straight line? In which case, there's no need to mess
    with the straight edge.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 14 03:00:10 2025
    On 13/02/2025 20:44, GB wrote:
    On 13/02/2025 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 13/02/2025 13:07, Tricky Dicky wrote:
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have bought a metal precision straight rules for guitars, to check if >>>> the neck is properly aligned with the bridge.

    Somebody told me that I could drill or cut holes on one of the
    sides, so
    that the straight edge will take account of the frets to check the neck >>>> relief, but they mentioned routers, dremels, etc. I don't even know
    what
    they are, they probably cost a fortune and they make a lot of noise
    that
    could get me in trouble with neighbours.

    What is the cheapest tools that I could use? The metal rules is quite
    thick ( a couple of mms).

    Maybe a tool that I could reuse for something else?

    Or are there professionals that can do that for me at a reasonable
    price?


    Needle files

    +1.
    Or you can buy a pre slotted straight edge
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notched-Straight-Fretboard-Strings-Luthier/dp/ B0B25947NW/ref=asc_df_B0B25947NW


    I am not a guitarist, but I'd have thought you'd want the tops of the
    frets to be in a straight line? In which case, there's no need to mess
    with the straight edge.


    You need both. The first thing to do is to string the guitar and use the
    truss rod to get a slight bow in the fingerboard.. That you need the
    edge for.

    Then you take the strings off and use a vary long flat bar with abrasive
    to get the frets even and re crown them. You can use straight edge for
    that, but most people use a sharpie and sand away till all the frets are de-sharpied.

    Then you adjust the bridge position and height for the action and intonation
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  • From GB@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Fri Feb 14 13:59:16 2025
    On 14/02/2025 03:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 13/02/2025 20:44, GB wrote:
    On 13/02/2025 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 13/02/2025 13:07, Tricky Dicky wrote:
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have bought a metal precision straight rules for guitars, to
    check if
    the neck is properly aligned with the bridge.

    Somebody told me that I could drill or cut holes on one of the
    sides, so
    that the straight edge will take account of the frets to check the
    neck
    relief, but they mentioned routers, dremels, etc. I don't even know
    what
    they are, they probably cost a fortune and they make a lot of noise
    that
    could get me in trouble with neighbours.

    What is the cheapest tools that I could use? The metal rules is quite >>>>> thick ( a couple of mms).

    Maybe a tool that I could reuse for something else?

    Or are there professionals that can do that for me at a reasonable
    price?


    Needle files

    +1.
    Or you can buy a pre slotted straight edge
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notched-Straight-Fretboard-Strings-Luthier/
    dp/ B0B25947NW/ref=asc_df_B0B25947NW


    I am not a guitarist, but I'd have thought you'd want the tops of the
    frets to be in a straight line? In which case, there's no need to mess
    with the straight edge.


    You need both. The first thing to do is to string the guitar and use the truss rod to get a slight bow in the fingerboard.. That you need the
    edge for.

    Then you take the strings off and use a vary long flat bar with abrasive
    to get the frets even  and re crown them. You can use straight edge for that, but most people use a sharpie and sand away till all the frets are de-sharpied.

    Then you adjust the bridge position and height for the action and
    intonation

    Good heavens! I had no idea. :)

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