• Re: Cadent - gas main/to house replacement

    From pete@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 19 13:30:04 2025
    Cadent has recently replaced all the gas-pipes on our West London housing estate.
    since then, I have noticed a conciderable amount of 'Wire drawing' causing low gas pressure
    IE- Food taking longer to cook, situation worse if oven and hob in use at same time.
    tried to contact Cadent, firm simply not intersted in our problem.

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to pete on Wed Feb 19 19:58:13 2025
    pete <73395fe5756745fb4950001483a8c513@example.com> wrote:
    Cadent has recently replaced all the gas-pipes on our West London housing estate.

    Better than having your house explode. E.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58962007

    since then, I have noticed a conciderable amount of 'Wire drawing' causing low gas pressure

    Um, association ≠ causation. By what mechanism do you think cable drawing might be affecting your gas supply?

    Tim

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay on Thu Feb 20 06:39:06 2025
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    pete <73395fe5756745fb4950001483a8c513@example.com> wrote:
    Cadent has recently replaced all the gas-pipes on our West London housing estate.

    Better than having your house explode. E.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58962007

    since then, I have noticed a conciderable amount of 'Wire drawing' causing low gas pressure

    Um, association ≠ causation. By what mechanism do you think cable drawing might be affecting your gas supply?

    I'd have thought first course of action would be to get a gas fitter to do a pressure test, then check with published spec. If low you can ask Cadent to
    fix it, if within spec there's less you can do. It's also possible the pressure is ok but pipework in your property is marginal, and an upgrade
    would fix issues.

    Theo

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Theo on Fri Feb 21 19:33:32 2025
    On 20/02/2025 06:39, Theo wrote:
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    pete <73395fe5756745fb4950001483a8c513@example.com> wrote:
    Cadent has recently replaced all the gas-pipes on our West London housing estate.

    Better than having your house explode. E.g.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58962007

    since then, I have noticed a conciderable amount of 'Wire drawing' causing low gas pressure

    Um, association ≠ causation. By what mechanism do you think cable drawing >> might be affecting your gas supply?

    I'd have thought first course of action would be to get a gas fitter to do a pressure test, then check with published spec. If low you can ask Cadent to fix it, if within spec there's less you can do. It's also possible the pressure is ok but pipework in your property is marginal, and an upgrade would fix issues.

    If the problem was caused by a too small diameter pipework, then a
    static pressure test might not show the problem, since the result would
    depend on the demand at that point in time.
    As the inadequate pipe might feed a number of houses, the demand would
    be known.


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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Fri Feb 21 22:13:30 2025
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 20/02/2025 06:39, Theo wrote:
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    pete <73395fe5756745fb4950001483a8c513@example.com> wrote:
    Cadent has recently replaced all the gas-pipes on our West London housing estate.

    Better than having your house explode. E.g.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58962007

    since then, I have noticed a conciderable amount of 'Wire drawing'
    causing low gas pressure

    Um, association ≠ causation. By what mechanism do you think cable drawing
    might be affecting your gas supply?

    I'd have thought first course of action would be to get a gas fitter to do a >> pressure test, then check with published spec. If low you can ask Cadent to >> fix it, if within spec there's less you can do. It's also possible the
    pressure is ok but pipework in your property is marginal, and an upgrade
    would fix issues.

    If the problem was caused by a too small diameter pipework, then a
    static pressure test might not show the problem, since the result would depend on the demand at that point in time.
    As the inadequate pipe might feed a number of houses, the demand would
    be known.



    Yep. A pressure test at a time of peak demand is what you need. Not unknown
    for pipework to an area to be undersized for the required gas supply.

    Still b*gger all to do with “wire drawing” though.

    Tim

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay on Sat Feb 22 11:57:56 2025
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 20/02/2025 06:39, Theo wrote:
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    pete <73395fe5756745fb4950001483a8c513@example.com> wrote:
    Cadent has recently replaced all the gas-pipes on our West London housing estate.

    Better than having your house explode. E.g.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58962007

    since then, I have noticed a conciderable amount of 'Wire drawing'
    causing low gas pressure

    Um, association ≠ causation. By what mechanism do you think cable drawing
    might be affecting your gas supply?

    I'd have thought first course of action would be to get a gas fitter to do a
    pressure test, then check with published spec. If low you can ask Cadent to
    fix it, if within spec there's less you can do. It's also possible the
    pressure is ok but pipework in your property is marginal, and an upgrade >> would fix issues.

    If the problem was caused by a too small diameter pipework, then a
    static pressure test might not show the problem, since the result would depend on the demand at that point in time.
    As the inadequate pipe might feed a number of houses, the demand would
    be known.



    Yep. A pressure test at a time of peak demand is what you need. Not unknown for pipework to an area to be undersized for the required gas supply.

    Is there some kind of pressure gauge that could be installed so you could
    check the pressure at any given time? Then you can send a photo to Cadent
    as evidence.

    Theo

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Theo on Sat Feb 22 20:01:35 2025
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 20/02/2025 06:39, Theo wrote:
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    pete <73395fe5756745fb4950001483a8c513@example.com> wrote:
    Cadent has recently replaced all the gas-pipes on our West London housing estate.

    Better than having your house explode. E.g.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58962007

    since then, I have noticed a conciderable amount of 'Wire drawing' >>>>>> causing low gas pressure

    Um, association ≠ causation. By what mechanism do you think cable drawing
    might be affecting your gas supply?

    I'd have thought first course of action would be to get a gas fitter to do a
    pressure test, then check with published spec. If low you can ask Cadent to
    fix it, if within spec there's less you can do. It's also possible the >>>> pressure is ok but pipework in your property is marginal, and an upgrade >>>> would fix issues.

    If the problem was caused by a too small diameter pipework, then a
    static pressure test might not show the problem, since the result would
    depend on the demand at that point in time.
    As the inadequate pipe might feed a number of houses, the demand would
    be known.



    Yep. A pressure test at a time of peak demand is what you need. Not unknown >> for pipework to an area to be undersized for the required gas supply.

    Is there some kind of pressure gauge that could be installed so you could check the pressure at any given time? Then you can send a photo to Cadent
    as evidence.


    https://www.toolstation.com/gas-test-gauge/p85691?

    Works for me… ;-)


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