• RE: chainsaws and vibrations injuries

    From Fredxx@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 17:29:05 2025
    On 06/03/2025 17:16, Tim+ wrote:
    Has anyone suffered with vibration injuries from petrol chainsaw use? If
    so, have you found electric chainsaws better?

    TBH I’m not sure if my hand/wrist/forearm aches are chainsaw related or not, I’ve also being doing a fair bit of manual work (hedge laying using a billhook) and I suspect it’s the “billhooking” that’s caused the worst of
    the jarring but I have issues in both arms so maybe not…. I have been doing a fair bit of chainsawing and I’m not getting any younger.

    Anyhow, I see that I can pick up a 14” electric Husqvarna 225i with two 36V/4Ah batteries at the moment for £369. If they’re easier on the joints it might be a good investment.

    A good buy or are there better option?

    https://www.hse.gov.uk/vibration/hav/advicetoemployers/responsibilities.htm

    A while ago I bought a reciprocating saw and that had some vibration information and exposure limits.

    Do chain saws have these too? I've never looked!

    The other issue is that starting a petrol chainsaw can strain a shoulder!

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 17:16:19 2025
    Has anyone suffered with vibration injuries from petrol chainsaw use? If
    so, have you found electric chainsaws better?

    TBH I’m not sure if my hand/wrist/forearm aches are chainsaw related or
    not, I’ve also being doing a fair bit of manual work (hedge laying using a billhook) and I suspect it’s the “billhooking” that’s caused the worst of
    the jarring but I have issues in both arms so maybe not…. I have been doing
    a fair bit of chainsawing and I’m not getting any younger.

    Anyhow, I see that I can pick up a 14” electric Husqvarna 225i with two 36V/4Ah batteries at the moment for £369. If they’re easier on the joints it might be a good investment.

    A good buy or are there better option?

    Tim

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  • From Timatmarford@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 17:40:10 2025
    On 06/03/2025 17:16, Tim+ wrote:
    Has anyone suffered with vibration injuries from petrol chainsaw use? If
    so, have you found electric chainsaws better?

    I have had *tennis elbow* but not from using a chainsaw. I think my last
    dose was triggered by moving some over heavy broken concrete.

    TBH I’m not sure if my hand/wrist/forearm aches are chainsaw related or not, I’ve also being doing a fair bit of manual work (hedge laying using a billhook) and I suspect it’s the “billhooking” that’s caused the worst of
    the jarring but I have issues in both arms so maybe not…. I have been doing a fair bit of chainsawing and I’m not getting any younger.


    Anyhow, I see that I can pick up a 14” electric Husqvarna 225i with two 36V/4Ah batteries at the moment for £369. If they’re easier on the joints it might be a good investment.

    Go on! You are just trying to justify the expenditure:-)

    A good buy or are there better option?

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  • From John Rumm@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 6 18:31:54 2025
    On 06/03/2025 17:16, Tim+ wrote:


    Has anyone suffered with vibration injuries from petrol chainsaw use? If
    so, have you found electric chainsaws better?


    I have suffered what I would call a "stress" injury from my Makita DCS
    430 with a (at the time) 14" bar on it - prolly a about 6.5kg with fuel,
    oil and bar/chain). This was a bout of quite painful tendonitis just
    below the left elbow on the outside of the arm. Caused by my left arm supporting the weight of the saw on the wrap around handle in a slightly
    bent position.

    I don't think the vibration itself made much difference.

    I was probably only using it for 30 mins cutting firewood. It took
    months to heal. I have since learnt that any prolonged tension on that
    part either arm will result in similar results (half hour using a core
    drill up a ladder did it for the other one once).

    (These days I take care to think about how I am carrying weight, and
    swap arms / rest from time to time. Also I found a couple of straps with
    a stiff pad on them which you put round the upper forearm with the pad
    pushing on the tendon, will prevent the injury in the first place, and
    also relieve it quite substantially once injured)

    (also have to watch playing badminton for too long!)

    TBH I’m not sure if my hand/wrist/forearm aches are chainsaw related or not, I’ve also being doing a fair bit of manual work (hedge laying using a billhook) and I suspect it’s the “billhooking” that’s caused the worst of
    the jarring but I have issues in both arms so maybe not…. I have been doing a fair bit of chainsawing and I’m not getting any younger.

    Anyhow, I see that I can pick up a 14” electric Husqvarna 225i with two 36V/4Ah batteries at the moment for £369. If they’re easier on the joints it might be a good investment.

    A good buy or are there better option?

    I have a DUC306 36V top handle saw, and while it is more compact, by the
    time the batteries are on it and it is full of bar oil, it is probably
    only about 1.5 kg lighter than the petrol one. The vibration figures are
    a bit less (quoted at 3.2m/sec^2 for the electric, and 5.2 to 5.9
    m/sec^2 for the petrol depending on which handle you measure (higher on
    the front), but neither seem particularly noticeable. Compared to
    something like a 36V reciprocating saw at > 16m/sec^2 they are both
    fairly gentle.

    However the really big win[1] with the battery saw is when using it intermittently doing other jobs - that you can pick it up, start, cut,
    put it down very quickly and easily. Not only less weight to tote about,
    but no starting effort, less noise, there is no temptation to leave it
    idling because you know you will use it again in a minute (so less fuel
    wasted) and you don't end up smelling like you have been marinaded in
    two stroke!

    [1] If you ignore the whole "top handle" thing and hence the ability use
    when climbing or on ladders etc.


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    John.

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