• OT: Contacting Tesco

    From Davey@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 11 08:19:49 2025
    I purchased an item of clothing from my local Tesco shop, but it is
    bad. I wanted to not only return it for a refund, but also to
    complain and explain about it, in the vague hope that Tesco might
    do something to prevent the problem occurring again. It is an F&F
    product, their own brand. Over several years, I have bought the same
    product, and each time it has visibly reduced in quality and weight of material. Now it is useless.

    I went on to the Tesco.com website, and went round and round and round
    trying to find some way of actually communicating with somebody. Each
    reference to Help or Contact just goes to another list of specific
    menus, none of which are relevant. When I did find a couple of 'phone
    numbers, they both went to Tesco Groceries only, with extremely long
    waiting times.
    They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented business.
    Are they not obliged to have some method of actually contacting them?

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Davey on Tue Mar 11 08:39:25 2025
    On 11/03/2025 in message <vqorn5$1sec5$1@dont-email.me> Davey wrote:

    I purchased an item of clothing from my local Tesco shop, but it is
    bad. I wanted to not only return it for a refund, but also to
    complain and explain about it, in the vague hope that Tesco might
    do something to prevent the problem occurring again. It is an F&F
    product, their own brand. Over several years, I have bought the same
    product, and each time it has visibly reduced in quality and weight of >material. Now it is useless.

    I went on to the Tesco.com website, and went round and round and round
    trying to find some way of actually communicating with somebody. Each >reference to Help or Contact just goes to another list of specific
    menus, none of which are relevant. When I did find a couple of 'phone >numbers, they both went to Tesco Groceries only, with extremely long
    waiting times.
    They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented business.
    Are they not obliged to have some method of actually contacting them?

    Write to them, details on Companies House website:

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00445790

    Address your letter to the Secretary, or perhaps one of the directors, I
    know from experience that;'s the person who deals with all the crap!

    No company wants to be easily contactable nowadays, most seem to want to
    deal by phone or web chat but that won't achieve what you want.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    If Björn & Benny had been called Syd and Dave then ABBA would have been
    called ASDA.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Nick Finnigan on Tue Mar 11 09:11:58 2025
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 08:55:00 +0000
    Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2025 08:39, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    No company wants to be easily contactable nowadays, most seem to
    want to deal by phone or web chat but that won't achieve what you
    want.

    Web chat is rapidly becoming WhatsApp (checks: yes Tesco is an
    example).


    That's fine, but I do not use Whatsapp, and I should not be forced to
    do so simply to communicate with the company.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue Mar 11 09:12:30 2025
    On 11 Mar 2025 08:39:25 GMT
    "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    On 11/03/2025 in message <vqorn5$1sec5$1@dont-email.me> Davey wrote:

    I purchased an item of clothing from my local Tesco shop, but it is
    bad. I wanted to not only return it for a refund, but also to
    complain and explain about it, in the vague hope that Tesco might
    do something to prevent the problem occurring again. It is an F&F
    product, their own brand. Over several years, I have bought the same >product, and each time it has visibly reduced in quality and weight
    of material. Now it is useless.

    I went on to the Tesco.com website, and went round and round and
    round trying to find some way of actually communicating with
    somebody. Each reference to Help or Contact just goes to another
    list of specific menus, none of which are relevant. When I did find
    a couple of 'phone numbers, they both went to Tesco Groceries only,
    with extremely long waiting times.
    They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented
    business. Are they not obliged to have some method of actually
    contacting them?

    Write to them, details on Companies House website:

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00445790

    Address your letter to the Secretary, or perhaps one of the
    directors, I know from experience that;'s the person who deals with
    all the crap!

    No company wants to be easily contactable nowadays, most seem to want
    to deal by phone or web chat but that won't achieve what you want.


    Thanks, I will try that.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Davey on Tue Mar 11 09:12:51 2025
    On 11/03/2025 08:19, Davey wrote:
    I purchased an item of clothing from my local Tesco shop, but it is
    bad. I wanted to not only return it for a refund, but also to
    complain and explain about it, in the vague hope that Tesco might
    do something to prevent the problem occurring again. It is an F&F
    product, their own brand. Over several years, I have bought the same
    product, and each time it has visibly reduced in quality and weight of material. Now it is useless.

    I went on to the Tesco.com website, and went round and round and round
    trying to find some way of actually communicating with somebody. Each reference to Help or Contact just goes to another list of specific
    menus, none of which are relevant. When I did find a couple of 'phone numbers, they both went to Tesco Groceries only, with extremely long
    waiting times.
    They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented business.
    Are they not obliged to have some method of actually contacting them?

    Yes. but if it sends you round in a circle that is apparently OK

    I've had the same problems in so many places that I no longer do
    business with.


    --
    A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
    its shoes.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Davey on Tue Mar 11 09:14:55 2025
    On 11/03/2025 09:11, Davey wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 08:55:00 +0000
    Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2025 08:39, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    No company wants to be easily contactable nowadays, most seem to
    want to deal by phone or web chat but that won't achieve what you
    want.

    Web chat is rapidly becoming WhatsApp (checks: yes Tesco is an
    example).


    That's fine, but I do not use Whatsapp, and I should not be forced to
    do so simply to communicate with the company.

    So stop doing business with them.
    Then you wont have to.

    In the end the most powerful political tool you have is your debit card.

    --
    A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
    its shoes.

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  • From Nick Finnigan@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue Mar 11 08:55:00 2025
    On 11/03/2025 08:39, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    No company wants to be easily contactable nowadays, most seem to want to
    deal by phone or web chat but that won't achieve what you want.

    Web chat is rapidly becoming WhatsApp (checks: yes Tesco is an example).

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  • From Nick Finnigan@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Tue Mar 11 09:18:41 2025
    On 11/03/2025 09:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 11/03/2025 09:11, Davey wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 08:55:00 +0000
    Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2025 08:39, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    No company wants to be easily contactable nowadays, most seem to
    want to deal by phone or web chat but that won't achieve what you
    want.

       Web chat is rapidly becoming WhatsApp (checks: yes Tesco is an
    example).

    That's fine, but I do not use Whatsapp, and I should not be forced to
    do so simply to communicate with the company.

    Neither do I ...

    So stop doing business with them.

    ... and the premium had gone up excessively anyway.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Roger Mills on Tue Mar 11 17:28:53 2025
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:37:06 +0000
    Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/03/2025 08:19, Davey wrote:
    I purchased an item of clothing from my local Tesco shop, but it is
    bad. I wanted to not only return it for a refund, but also to
    complain and explain about it, in the vague hope that Tesco might
    do something to prevent the problem occurring again. It is an F&F
    product, their own brand. Over several years, I have bought the same product, and each time it has visibly reduced in quality and weight
    of material. Now it is useless.

    I went on to the Tesco.com website, and went round and round and
    round trying to find some way of actually communicating with
    somebody. Each reference to Help or Contact just goes to another
    list of specific menus, none of which are relevant. When I did find
    a couple of 'phone numbers, they both went to Tesco Groceries only,
    with extremely long waiting times.
    They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented
    business. Are they not obliged to have some method of actually
    contacting them?

    The website ceoemail.com is a useful source of info about how to
    contact companies. [I hadn't heard of it until a few minutes ago,
    when it was mentioned on BBC R4 'You & Yours'.

    One of the addresses it gives for Tesco is
    ceo.customerservice@tesco.com

    Was that the programme I came across at lunchtime? They were talking
    about AI on Chatbots, and I immediately pricked my ears up until
    I reached my destination and had to stop listening.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Davey on Tue Mar 11 19:03:46 2025
    On 11/03/2025 08:19, Davey wrote:
    I purchased an item of clothing from my local Tesco shop, but it is
    bad. I wanted to not only return it for a refund, but also to
    complain and explain about it, in the vague hope that Tesco might
    do something to prevent the problem occurring again. It is an F&F
    product, their own brand. Over several years, I have bought the same
    product, and each time it has visibly reduced in quality and weight of material. Now it is useless.

    I went on to the Tesco.com website, and went round and round and round
    trying to find some way of actually communicating with somebody. Each reference to Help or Contact just goes to another list of specific
    menus, none of which are relevant. When I did find a couple of 'phone numbers, they both went to Tesco Groceries only, with extremely long
    waiting times.
    They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented business.
    Are they not obliged to have some method of actually contacting them?

    "They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented business."

    I assume there _are_ some large businesses which have this to lose, but
    none spring to mind at the moment.


    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Tue Mar 11 19:52:49 2025
    On 11/03/2025 19:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 11/03/2025 08:19, Davey wrote:
    I purchased an item of clothing from my local Tesco shop, but it is
    bad. I wanted to not only return it for a refund, but also to
    complain and explain about it, in the vague hope that Tesco might
    do something to prevent the problem occurring again. It is an F&F
    product, their own brand. Over several years, I have bought the same
    product, and each time it has visibly reduced in quality and weight of
    material. Now it is useless.

    I went on to the Tesco.com website, and went round and round and round
    trying to find some way of actually communicating with somebody. Each
    reference to Help or Contact just goes to another list of specific
    menus, none of which are relevant. When I did find a couple of 'phone
    numbers, they both went to Tesco Groceries only, with extremely long
    waiting times.
    They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented business.
    Are they not obliged to have some method of actually contacting them?

    "They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented business."

    I assume there _are_ some large businesses which have this to lose, but
    none spring to mind at the moment.


    I walked into Waitrose in town A today, went to the customer services
    desk and said 'I bought this product at Waitrose in Town B yesterday and
    its not as it should be"

    Instant replacement no questions asked.

    --
    "First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your oppressors."
    - George Orwell

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Roger Mills on Tue Mar 11 22:48:50 2025
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 22:24:42 +0000
    Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/03/2025 17:28, Davey wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:37:06 +0000
    Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/03/2025 08:19, Davey wrote:
    I purchased an item of clothing from my local Tesco shop, but it
    is bad. I wanted to not only return it for a refund, but also to
    complain and explain about it, in the vague hope that Tesco might
    do something to prevent the problem occurring again. It is an F&F
    product, their own brand. Over several years, I have bought the
    same product, and each time it has visibly reduced in quality and
    weight of material. Now it is useless.

    I went on to the Tesco.com website, and went round and round and
    round trying to find some way of actually communicating with
    somebody. Each reference to Help or Contact just goes to another
    list of specific menus, none of which are relevant. When I did
    find a couple of 'phone numbers, they both went to Tesco
    Groceries only, with extremely long waiting times.
    They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented
    business. Are they not obliged to have some method of actually
    contacting them?

    The website ceoemail.com is a useful source of info about how to
    contact companies. [I hadn't heard of it until a few minutes ago,
    when it was mentioned on BBC R4 'You & Yours'.

    One of the addresses it gives for Tesco is
    ceo.customerservice@tesco.com

    Was that the programme I came across at lunchtime? They were talking
    about AI on Chatbots, and I immediately pricked my ears up until
    I reached my destination and had to stop listening.

    Yes, that's the one. I heard a bit of it while I was sitting on the
    loo!

    ...which is where I do most of my reading. But this time, I was on my
    way to my local garage.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Wed Mar 12 00:09:00 2025
    On 11/03/2025 19:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:

    "They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented business."

    I assume there _are_ some large businesses which have this to lose, but
    none spring to mind at the moment.


    When a company is bought and run by venture capital private equity, with
    very few to none of the original founder families involved, it's very
    much profit-orientated and this is what ye get.

    Then they load debt, sell some bits, sell the customer list and exit -
    while the carcase slowly perishes.

    ASDA has seen a turbulent change of ownership over the last few decades. Morrisons is also private equity owned.






    Seems Tesco, Sainsbury, CoOp & Waitrose are relatively safe for the moment.

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to email@here.invalid on Wed Mar 12 08:30:04 2025
    In article <m3c1ksFd65sU1@mid.individual.net>, Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> wrote:
    On 11/03/2025 19:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:

    "They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented
    business."

    I assume there _are_ some large businesses which have this to lose, but none spring to mind at the moment.


    When a company is bought and run by venture capital private equity, with
    very few to none of the original founder families involved, it's very
    much profit-orientated and this is what ye get.

    Then they load debt, sell some bits, sell the customer list and exit -
    while the carcase slowly perishes.

    ASDA has seen a turbulent change of ownership over the last few decades. Morrisons is also private equity owned.






    Seems Tesco, Sainsbury, CoOp & Waitrose are relatively safe for the
    moment.

    How about Homebase?

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té²
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Caspersz on Wed Mar 12 08:51:37 2025
    On 12/03/2025 in message <m3c1ksFd65sU1@mid.individual.net> Adrian
    Caspersz wrote:

    ASDA has seen a turbulent change of ownership over the last few decades.

    If Björn and Benny had been called Steve and Dave, then Abba would have
    been called ASDA.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    There's 2 typos of peoples in this world.
    Those who always notice spelling & grammatical errors, & them who doesn't.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to charles on Wed Mar 12 11:51:45 2025
    On 12/03/2025 08:30, charles wrote:
    In article <m3c1ksFd65sU1@mid.individual.net>, Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> wrote:
    On 11/03/2025 19:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:

    "They are rapidly losing any credibility as a customer-oriented
    business."

    I assume there _are_ some large businesses which have this to lose, but
    none spring to mind at the moment.


    When a company is bought and run by venture capital private equity, with
    very few to none of the original founder families involved, it's very
    much profit-orientated and this is what ye get.

    Then they load debt, sell some bits, sell the customer list and exit -
    while the carcase slowly perishes.

    ASDA has seen a turbulent change of ownership over the last few decades.
    Morrisons is also private equity owned.






    Seems Tesco, Sainsbury, CoOp & Waitrose are relatively safe for the
    moment.

    How about Homebase?

    Hasn't that just gone?

    --
    There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do
    that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon
    emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Wed Mar 12 16:00:48 2025
    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:51:45 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:


    How about Homebase?

    Hasn't that just gone?

    Local Homebase is now a branch of The Range

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Wed Mar 12 15:59:42 2025
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 19:52:49 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:


    I walked into Waitrose in town A today, went to the customer services
    desk and said 'I bought this product at Waitrose in Town B yesterday and
    its not as it should be"

    Instant replacement no questions asked.

    I think a lot of chains do that. I've done it with Screwfix (back on
    DIY) when I've not needed something.

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