• Flushin Toilet

    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 10:20:25 2025
    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards, goodness
    know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a state of
    flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance to
    put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

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  • From Handsome Jack@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Mar 22 11:50:15 2025
    On 22 Mar 2025 10:20:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    So it was you, was it?


    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Eat them, even if they are rotten, as a punishment for having helped
    create food shortages.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 12:01:38 2025
    On 22/03/2025 11:21, N_Cook wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and
    consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!


    You know what they say of allowed flushables, the 4 Ps
    Piss,poo, paper and pilchards


    Very good. :)

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  • From No mail@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Mar 22 12:09:32 2025
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Not sure what this has to do with DIY - but - keep them until next time
    you fancy a Pilchard (!!) If the tin seems OK when you open it then it's
    almost certainly OK to eat them. If the coating of the tin is damaged,
    or there's a metallic smell, put them out for the birds.

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  • From N_Cook@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Mar 22 11:21:06 2025
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!


    You know what they say of allowed flushables, the 4 Ps
    Piss,poo, paper and pilchards

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Mar 22 11:20:55 2025
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards, goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a state of
    flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance to
    put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Is that an expiry date or "best before end of" date? I don't remember an
    expiry date on fish in cans, and, In general, fish in oil lasts ages
    after the BBE date. I doubt in any case it's the fish which might be the problem. If they're in tomato sauce it's the acidity of that which is
    likely to be the limiting factor. Having said that, the tins of tomatoes
    I have have a BBE and not E date on them.

    Have you opened a can and checked to see what it smells like?

    If you decide to dispose of the contents why not leave them in the
    garden for the carrion eaters to deal with?.

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    Jeff

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Mar 22 12:23:27 2025
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Just chuck the tin, unopened in the general waste. Or open the tin,
    sniff the contents and eat if they don't smell too bad.

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 12:52:20 2025
    On 22/03/2025 11:21, N_Cook wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and
    consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!


    You know what they say of allowed flushables, the 4 Ps
    Piss,poo, paper and pilchards


    And small flushable Pets.

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  • From Chris Hogg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 13:27:05 2025
    On 22 Mar 2025 10:20:25 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards, goodness >know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a state of
    flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance to
    put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get emptied >properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and >consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    The usual gauge I use is if the tin is showing signs of swelling. If
    it isn't, you've got a pretty good chance the contents are OK.
    Remember it's in the mfr's interests for you to throw stuff away
    prematurely and buy fresh, and they're protecting themselves at the
    same time.

    I often eat stuff beyond the BBF or E date, and I'm still here, and
    can't recall ever suffering from an upset tummy.

    --

    Chris

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Mar 22 13:27:14 2025
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Why not eat them?

    Tinned food should last forever.

    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good
    after'

    In other words it is a guarantee of quality before that date, not a
    guarantee of badness after it.



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  • From mm0fmf@21:1/5 to Handsome Jack on Sat Mar 22 14:09:01 2025
    On 22/03/2025 11:50, Handsome Jack wrote:
    On 22 Mar 2025 10:20:25 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    So it was you, was it?


    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Eat them, even if they are rotten, as a punishment for having helped
    create food shortages.
    This!

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Mar 22 17:05:01 2025
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards, goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a state of
    flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance to
    put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Part of what lies behind the BBE thing for tinned foods is the leaching of oestrogen-mimicking compounds from the tin’s lining. The food may look, smell, and taste good, but it’s possibly contaminated.

    Bung ‘em (the unopened tins) in the wheelie-bin.

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  • From mm0fmf@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Sat Mar 22 17:27:47 2025
    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good
    after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Sat Mar 22 18:12:26 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:27:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Why not eat them?

    Tinned food should last forever.

    Didn't the Victorians eat tins from a doomed naval expedition that were
    20 years old with no ill effects.

    you needed a hammer and chisel to open the tins.

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Sat Mar 22 18:22:54 2025
    On 22/03/2025 12:23, Max Demian wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and
    consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Just chuck the tin, unopened in the general waste. Or open the tin,
    sniff the contents and eat if they don't smell too bad.

    Search a few newsgroups for some good tinned pilchard recipes.

    Pilchards on toast, Pilchard Pate, Curried Pilchard...

    P.S. Google came up with (I kid you not):

    Tinned Sardine(sic!) Salad
    Tinned Pilchard Rougaille
    Tinned fish cakes
    Macaroni, tinned fish and baked beans
    Pilchards and baked beans...


    Having read through that lot, now would be a good time to chuck then in
    the bin.


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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 18:27:15 2025
    On 22/03/2025 17:27, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good
    after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    Surely a Xmas pud should have a "Best After" date, not a best before?

    They need time to mature.

    Now if you said you ate it at Christmas 2021, that would be notable.

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 18:28:17 2025
    On 22/03/2025 18:12, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:27:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Why not eat them?

    Tinned food should last forever.

    Didn't the Victorians eat tins from a doomed naval expedition that were
    20 years old with no ill effects.

    you needed a hammer and chisel to open the tins.

    The correct method is described (in detail) in "Three Men in a Boat".

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From SteveW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 20:40:44 2025
    On 22/03/2025 18:12, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:27:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Why not eat them?

    Tinned food should last forever.

    Didn't the Victorians eat tins from a doomed naval expedition that were
    20 years old with no ill effects.

    you needed a hammer and chisel to open the tins.

    There was a story in the papers in 2006, of a man that cooked and ate a
    50 year-old tinned chicken from when the couple married in 1956. There
    were no ill effects. The same article also mentioned that scientists
    had tested food canned in the '70s and found it still good.

    ISTR that someone brought canned meat from the 1907 Shackleton
    expedition back for testing 40 or 50 years later, but someone ate it
    before it could be tested and again was fine.

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  • From N_Cook@21:1/5 to SteveW on Sat Mar 22 21:16:36 2025
    On 22/03/2025 20:40, SteveW wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 18:12, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:27:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Why not eat them?

    Tinned food should last forever.

    Didn't the Victorians eat tins from a doomed naval expedition that were
    20 years old with no ill effects.

    you needed a hammer and chisel to open the tins.

    There was a story in the papers in 2006, of a man that cooked and ate a
    50 year-old tinned chicken from when the couple married in 1956. There
    were no ill effects. The same article also mentioned that scientists
    had tested food canned in the '70s and found it still good.

    ISTR that someone brought canned meat from the 1907 Shackleton
    expedition back for testing 40 or 50 years later, but someone ate it
    before it could be tested and again was fine.



    One of those failed north or south pole early expeditions where they
    found some of the bodies recently. Analysing the bones, disn't they find extremely high lead contamination, enough to suggest the expedition
    could have come to grief due to the use of lead to seal the cans of
    early canned foodstuffs.

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  • From mm0fmf@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Sun Mar 23 06:37:04 2025
    On 22/03/2025 18:27, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 17:27, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so
    good after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    Surely a Xmas pud should have a "Best After" date, not a best before?

    They need time to mature.

    Now if you said you ate it at Christmas 2021, that would be notable.

    You'd think after 43 years being a programmer I would be able to type!

    We had a pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at Christmas 2023.
    Eleven years past the best before date.

    It was delicious.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Sun Mar 23 08:47:41 2025
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 17:27, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote

    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    Surely a Xmas pud should have a "Best After" date, not a best before?

    They need time to mature.

    Now if you said you ate it at Christmas 2021, that would be notable.

    Do Christmas Puddings actually come in tins?

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    Spike

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 09:35:08 2025
    On 22/03/2025 17:27, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good
    after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    Home made Christmas puddings should be made a year in advance normally
    on stir Sunday.


    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 10:43:49 2025
    On 22/03/2025 in message <xn0p3lnreew4guo00i@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    [snipped]

    Many thanks for all the replies/ideas :-)

    To cover some of the points:

    I have no idea why I had so many tins (about a dozen). If Sainsbury's
    stop selling items (like Baxter's Classic Tomato Chutney) I tend to buy
    from Amazon which usually means a box of a dozen.

    The bin men are a bit fussy about what is in which bin so putting things
    in the wrong bin is not something I would normally do.

    Emptying them into the garden might attract the wrong type of carrion.

    I asked in the DIY group because I am going to dispose of these myself
    rather than get the butler to do it.

    Thanks again!

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day.
    Tomorrow, isn't looking good either.

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  • From mm0fmf@21:1/5 to Chris Hogg on Sun Mar 23 11:03:38 2025
    On 23/03/2025 10:38, Chris Hogg wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 17:27:47 +0000, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good
    after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    In the days between Boxing Day and New Year's Day, my local Tesco, two minutes walk away, sells off all its Christmas food, cheap. I usually
    stock up on their individual Christmas puds, and eat them over the
    following year or three. I see there are half a dozen at the back of
    the cupboard already over a year old. Time for a Christmas pud, I
    think.

    I've updated the dates in my post, the pud in question was 11 years past
    the best before date!

    My local supermarket never has left over Christmas fare like puddings,
    Stollen, Panatone etc. any more. They used to have loads and I've bought puddings that were £8 each before Christmas for £1 ea by December 28th.
    That obviously costs and cuts into profits. For the last few years they
    never have left over stuff like this. It appears they order fewer items
    and would rather run out of puddings etc. on Dec 23rd/24th and
    disappoint a few customers than have to sell things at a loss after
    Christmas.

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  • From Chris Hogg@21:1/5 to none@invalid.com on Sun Mar 23 10:38:14 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 17:27:47 +0000, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good
    after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    In the days between Boxing Day and New Year's Day, my local Tesco, two
    minutes walk away, sells off all its Christmas food, cheap. I usually
    stock up on their individual Christmas puds, and eat them over the
    following year or three. I see there are half a dozen at the back of
    the cupboard already over a year old. Time for a Christmas pud, I
    think.

    --

    Chris

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to diverse@tcp.co.uk on Sun Mar 23 11:32:58 2025
    N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
    One of those failed north or south pole early expeditions where they
    found some of the bodies recently. Analysing the bones, disn't they find extremely high lead contamination, enough to suggest the expedition
    could have come to grief due to the use of lead to seal the cans of
    early canned foodstuffs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin's_lost_expedition

    There was a suggestion that lead poisoning caused insanity which did not
    help the expedition's chances. The evidence for that seems to be mixed, though.

    Theo

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  • From Clive Page@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sun Mar 23 11:21:10 2025
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Donate them to your local food bank? Many supermarkets have a bin for donations near the exit of the shop, you could just check them in. In
    the unlikely event that the food bank doesn't want them, they will know
    how to dispose of them properly.


    --
    Clive Page

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  • From Bernard Peek@21:1/5 to Chris Hogg on Sun Mar 23 12:58:28 2025
    On 2025-03-23, Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 17:27:47 +0000, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good
    after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at >>Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    In the days between Boxing Day and New Year's Day, my local Tesco, two minutes walk away, sells off all its Christmas food, cheap. I usually
    stock up on their individual Christmas puds, and eat them over the
    following year or three. I see there are half a dozen at the back of
    the cupboard already over a year old. Time for a Christmas pud, I
    think.


    Pre-packed cheeses will keep for years. I've eaten cheddar that has been
    kept, unopened, for ten years plus at room temperature. It was fine.

    --
    Bernard Peek
    bap@shrdlu.com
    Wigan

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  • From Bernard Peek@21:1/5 to SteveW on Sun Mar 23 13:09:05 2025
    On 2025-03-22, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 18:12, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:27:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Why not eat them?

    Tinned food should last forever.

    Didn't the Victorians eat tins from a doomed naval expedition that were
    20 years old with no ill effects.

    you needed a hammer and chisel to open the tins.

    There was a story in the papers in 2006, of a man that cooked and ate a
    50 year-old tinned chicken from when the couple married in 1956. There
    were no ill effects. The same article also mentioned that scientists
    had tested food canned in the '70s and found it still good.

    It depends on the food. I worked on developing coatings for the inside of
    tin cans. My predecessor in that job wiped out a substantial proportion of
    the Italian tomato crop one year. Anything containing water is corrosive but tomato-juice is far worse.

    In a previous job I worked on developing an acne treatment for Beechams. The product passed all of the clinical testing with flying colours. But we had
    to drop it because we couldn't find any sensible way to package it. I was tempted to suggest Houdini as a brand name.



    --
    Bernard Peek
    bap@shrdlu.com
    Wigan

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  • From Bernard Peek@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Sun Mar 23 13:12:23 2025
    On 2025-03-22, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 12:23, Max Demian wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and
    consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Just chuck the tin, unopened in the general waste. Or open the tin,
    sniff the contents and eat if they don't smell too bad.

    Search a few newsgroups for some good tinned pilchard recipes.

    One of my tuna recipes would probably work. Mix a can of tuna and a can of mixed beans in vinaigrette. Add lime juice and/or chilli powder to taste.

    --
    Bernard Peek
    bap@shrdlu.com
    Wigan

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Chris Hogg on Sun Mar 23 13:28:15 2025
    Chris Hogg wrote:

    In the days between Boxing Day and New Year's Day, my local Tesco, two minutes walk away, sells off all its Christmas food, cheap.

    I usually round-up a couple of pandoro from lidaldi

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  • From N_Cook@21:1/5 to Clive Page on Sun Mar 23 15:11:35 2025
    On 23/03/2025 11:21, Clive Page wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and
    consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Donate them to your local food bank? Many supermarkets have a bin for donations near the exit of the shop, you could just check them in. In
    the unlikely event that the food bank doesn't want them, they will know
    how to dispose of them properly.



    Donating to a cat rescue centre might be more successful

    --
    Global sea level rise to 2100 from curve-fitted existing altimetry data <http://diverse.4mg.com/slr.htm>

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Spike on Sun Mar 23 18:59:30 2025
    On 23/03/2025 08:47, Spike wrote:
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 17:27, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote

    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    Surely a Xmas pud should have a "Best After" date, not a best before?

    They need time to mature.

    Now if you said you ate it at Christmas 2021, that would be notable.

    Do Christmas Puddings actually come in tins?

    Some might, but the ones we have had over the last many years do come in packaging which carries a Best Before date - which is the central factor
    in the original question (in my view at least).

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to wasbit on Sun Mar 23 19:01:25 2025
    On 23/03/2025 09:35, wasbit wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 17:27, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so
    good after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    Home made Christmas puddings should be made a year in advance normally
    on stir Sunday.

    "Stir Up Sunday" WIWAL - which is odd since it mainly involved a
    horizontal circular motion.

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 19:03:38 2025
    On 23/03/2025 11:03, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 10:38, Chris Hogg wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 17:27:47 +0000, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good >>>> after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    In the days between Boxing Day and New Year's Day, my local Tesco, two
    minutes walk away, sells off all its Christmas food, cheap. I usually
    stock up on their individual Christmas puds, and eat them over the
    following year or three. I see there are half a dozen at the back of
    the cupboard already over a year old. Time for a Christmas pud, I
    think.

    I've updated the dates in my post, the pud in question was 11 years past
    the best before date!

    My local supermarket never has left over Christmas fare like puddings, Stollen, Panatone etc. any more. They used to have loads and I've bought puddings that were £8 each before Christmas for £1 ea by December 28th. That obviously costs and cuts into profits. For the last few years they
    never have left over stuff like this. It appears they order fewer items
    and would rather run out of puddings etc. on Dec 23rd/24th and
    disappoint a few customers than have to sell things at a loss after Christmas.

    Often supermarkets will send (some types of) food to a foodbank when it
    gets close to its Use-By date.

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    Sam Plusnet

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Sun Mar 23 19:41:07 2025
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 11:03, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 10:38, Chris Hogg wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 17:27:47 +0000, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good >>>>> after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    In the days between Boxing Day and New Year's Day, my local Tesco, two
    minutes walk away, sells off all its Christmas food, cheap. I usually
    stock up on their individual Christmas puds, and eat them over the
    following year or three. I see there are half a dozen at the back of
    the cupboard already over a year old. Time for a Christmas pud, I
    think.

    I've updated the dates in my post, the pud in question was 11 years past
    the best before date!

    My local supermarket never has left over Christmas fare like puddings,
    Stollen, Panatone etc. any more. They used to have loads and I've bought
    puddings that were £8 each before Christmas for £1 ea by December 28th.
    That obviously costs and cuts into profits. For the last few years they
    never have left over stuff like this. It appears they order fewer items
    and would rather run out of puddings etc. on Dec 23rd/24th and
    disappoint a few customers than have to sell things at a loss after
    Christmas.

    Often supermarkets will send (some types of) food to a foodbank when it
    gets close to its Use-By date.

    Quote:

    Heads up, canned-food eaters: A report released today by the Environmental Working Group details which canned food brands use bisphenol A (BPA) in the lining, and which don’t.

    Most of us know BPA as the plastic additive that mimics the hormone
    estrogen and has been removed from things like water bottles and baby
    formula packaging. But BPA lines an estimated 75 percent of canned foods in North America, protecting the metal from corroding and preventing bacteria
    from getting in. This has environmental advocates concerned, because the chemical leaches into the contents of cans at far higher rates than it does into, say, the water in your water bottle.

    A 2011 Harvard study found that those who ate canned soup every day for
    five days had levels of BPA in their urine that were ten times those who
    had fresh soup”.

    <https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/06/list-canned-foods-bpa/>


    --
    Spike

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  • From Graham.@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 21:08:00 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:52:20 +0000, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 11:21, N_Cook wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and
    consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!


    You know what they say of allowed flushables, the 4 Ps
    Piss,poo, paper and pilchards


    And small flushable Pets.

    And that golf course in New York.

    --
    G

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Chris Hogg on Mon Mar 24 10:12:25 2025
    On 23/03/2025 10:38, Chris Hogg wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 17:27:47 +0000, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    The 'best before' simply means 'dont sue us if they dont taste so good
    after'

    We had a Christmas Pudding with a best before date of July 2012 at
    Christmas 2013. Tasted fine, we're all still here.

    In the days between Boxing Day and New Year's Day, my local Tesco, two minutes walk away, sells off all its Christmas food, cheap. I usually
    stock up on their individual Christmas puds, and eat them over the
    following year or three. I see there are half a dozen at the back of
    the cupboard already over a year old. Time for a Christmas pud, I
    think.


    As a child I had many a slice of Christmas pudding when I came home from
    school ravenous. It was all I could find to eat.
    Come Stir Sunday mother had to make extra because there none of last
    years left.


    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Apr 3 17:26:58 2025
    On 22/03/2025 13:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and
    consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!

    Why not eat them?

    Tinned food should last forever.

    Botulism

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Thu Apr 3 17:25:28 2025
    On 22/03/2025 10:20, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Bit of an odd question.

    At the start of the pandemic I stocked up with tins of Pilchards,
    goodness know why, I am not that keen on them but the country was in a
    state of flux at the time.

    They are out of date so I need to get rid of them. They are a nuisance
    to put in the waste food bin as they stick and sometimes don't get
    emptied properly.

    Could I flush them down the toilet? They are about the same size and consistency as other matter that is flushed away.

    I do plan to take them out the tin first!


    When I was a kid, the cat lived on Glenryck tinned pilchards
    so try offering them to an animal rescue charity that takes
    in moggies.

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