Adam, Were you by any chance working at Heathrow airport on Thursday
evening of the 20th March 2025 and decided that the old fuses at the
local substation needed replacing? :-D

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-03-21/heathrow-airport-fire-what-went-wrong

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SH wrote:

Adam, Were you by any chance working at Heathrow airport on Thursday
evening of the 20th March 2025 and decided that the old fuses at the
local substation needed replacing? :-D

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-03-21/heathrow-airport-fire-what-went-wrong

Lots of wailing and gnashing on TV/radio from Joe public asking why all
of Heathrow was fed from a single substation, as far as I could make out
they say they're fed from three substations, and one was already out of
action before the fire.

SSEN's report from last year on how much cable/transformer replacement
was going to become necessary for that substation to prevent them
becoming overloaded ...

<https://www.ssen.co.uk/globalassets/about-us/dso/current-consultations/north-hyde-grid-supply-point---strategic-development-plan---for-consultation.pdf>

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On 22/03/2025 13:40, Andy Burns wrote:

SH wrote:

Adam, Were you by any chance working at Heathrow airport on Thursday
evening of the 20th March 2025 and decided that the old fuses at the
local substation needed replacing? :-D

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-03-21/heathrow-airport-fire-what-went-wrong

Lots of wailing and gnashing on TV/radio from Joe public asking why all
of Heathrow was fed from a single substation, as far as I could make out
they say they're fed from three substations, and one was already out of action before the fire.

SSEN's report from last year on how much cable/transformer replacement
was going to become necessary for that substation to prevent them
becoming overloaded ...

<https://www.ssen.co.uk/globalassets/about-us/dso/current-consultations/ north-hyde-grid-supply-point---strategic-development-plan---for- consultation.pdf>

Its confirmed... A blundering (presumably electrical) engineer! :-D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14525065/Heathrow-airport-bosses-face-questions-shutdown-travellers-stranded.html

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On 22/03/2025 17:47, SH wrote:

<snip>

Its confirmed... A blundering (presumably electrical) engineer! :-D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14525065/Heathrow-airport- bosses-face-questions-shutdown-travellers-stranded.html

When I read the article it asked a question rather than making a statement.

Do you read from, "Is one blundering engineer responsible for crippling Heathrow?" that it was a blundering engineer, or just maybe?

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On 22/03/2025 20:50, Fredxx wrote:

On 22/03/2025 17:47, SH wrote:

<snip>

Its confirmed... A blundering (presumably electrical) engineer! :-D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14525065/Heathrow-airport-
bosses-face-questions-shutdown-travellers-stranded.html

When I read the article it asked a question rather than making a statement.

Do you read from, "Is one blundering engineer responsible for crippling Heathrow?" that it was a blundering engineer, or just maybe?

As a general rule when someone uses a question as a clickbait title for
an article, the answer is 90+% of the time "no".


--
Cheers,

John.

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On 22/03/2025 17:47, SH wrote:

On 22/03/2025 13:40, Andy Burns wrote:

SH wrote:

Adam, Were you by any chance working at Heathrow airport on Thursday
evening of the 20th March 2025 and decided that the old fuses at the
local substation needed replacing? :-D

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-03-21/heathrow-airport-fire-what-went-wrong >> Lots of wailing and gnashing on TV/radio from Joe public asking why

all of Heathrow was fed from a single substation, as far as I could
make out they say they're fed from three substations, and one was
already out of action before the fire.

SSEN's report from last year on how much cable/transformer replacement
was going to become necessary for that substation to prevent them
becoming overloaded ...

<https://www.ssen.co.uk/globalassets/about-us/dso/current-consultations/ north-hyde-grid-supply-point---strategic-development-plan---for- consultation.pdf>

Its confirmed... A blundering (presumably electrical) engineer! :-D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14525065/Heathrow-airport-bosses-face-questions-shutdown-travellers-stranded.html

would a French person interpret the annotation "22.000 kV" as
22,000 kilovolts ?

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On 22/03/2025 23:00, John Rumm wrote:

On 22/03/2025 20:50, Fredxx wrote:

On 22/03/2025 17:47, SH wrote:

<snip>

Its confirmed... A blundering (presumably electrical) engineer! :-D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14525065/Heathrow-airport-
bosses-face-questions-shutdown-travellers-stranded.html

When I read the article it asked a question rather than making a
statement.

Do you read from, "Is one blundering engineer responsible for
crippling Heathrow?" that it was a blundering engineer, or just maybe?

As a general rule when someone uses a question as a clickbait title for
an article, the answer is 90+% of the time "no".

It's the Daily Heil so of course it's false. Questioning newspaper
headlines are known as Betteridge's Law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

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On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:50:29 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

On 22/03/2025 17:47, SH wrote:

<snip>

Its confirmed... A blundering (presumably electrical) engineer! :-D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14525065/Heathrow-airport-
bosses-face-questions-shutdown-travellers-stranded.html

When I read the article it asked a question rather than making a
statement.

Do you read from, "Is one blundering engineer responsible for crippling Heathrow?" that it was a blundering engineer, or just maybe?

Somebody should have been checking the transformer temperature

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In article <vrn7qk$npln$1@dont-email.me>,
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

On 22/03/2025 17:47, SH wrote:

<snip>

Its confirmed... A blundering (presumably electrical) engineer! :-D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14525065/Heathrow-airport- bosses-face-questions-shutdown-travellers-stranded.html

When I read the article it asked a question rather than making a statement.

Do you read from, "Is one blundering engineer responsible for crippling Heathrow?" that it was a blundering engineer, or just maybe?

and was the blunderer really an engineer? More llkey a rigger or an
electrician

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té²
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:33 +0000, Andrew wrote:

On 22/03/2025 17:47, SH wrote:

On 22/03/2025 13:40, Andy Burns wrote:

SH wrote:

Adam, Were you by any chance working at Heathrow airport on Thursday
evening of the 20th March 2025 and decided that the old fuses at the
local substation needed replacing? :-D

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-03-21/heathrow-airport-fire-what-went-

wrong

Lots of wailing and gnashing on TV/radio from Joe public asking why
all of Heathrow was fed from a single substation, as far as I could
make out they say they're fed from three substations, and one was
already out of action before the fire.

SSEN's report from last year on how much cable/transformer replacement
was going to become necessary for that substation to prevent them
becoming overloaded ...

<https://www.ssen.co.uk/globalassets/about-us/dso/current-

consultations/

north-hyde-grid-supply-point---strategic-development-plan---for-
consultation.pdf>

Its confirmed... A blundering (presumably electrical) engineer! :-D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14525065/Heathrow-airport- bosses-face-questions-shutdown-travellers-stranded.html

would a French person interpret the annotation "22.000 kV" as 22,000 kilovolts ?

22 million volts?

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jon wrote:

Somebody should have been checking the transformer temperature

I should imagine most large transformers do have remote monitoring.

I don't know which of the transformers was involved, but at least two of
them seems to have sprinkler/suppression pipework fitted, which I don't
recall noticing anywhere before ...

<https://maps.app.goo.gl/fUu17h2QgNdvuo4R6>

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On 23/03/2025 12:27, Andy Burns wrote:

jon wrote:

Somebody should have been checking the transformer temperature

I should imagine most large transformers do have remote monitoring.

I don't know which of the transformers was involved, but at least two of
them seems to have sprinkler/suppression pipework fitted, which I don't recall noticing anywhere before ...

<https://maps.app.goo.gl/fUu17h2QgNdvuo4R6>

and it also appears to have a concrete bund, presumably to contain any
leaking oil or contaiminaated fire extinguishing media?

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On 24/03/2025 20:23, Dave W wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:15:33 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
wrote:

would a French person interpret the annotation "22.000 kV" as
22,000 kilovolts ?

Only if the French person didn't understand that 1000's are
represented by commas not full-stops.

In France 22,000 is 22 very accurately. The use of comma and full stop
are reversed.

Andy

--
Do not listen to rumour, but, if you do, do not believe it.
Ghandi.

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jon wrote:

Somebody should have been checking the transformer temperature

Some info about grid substations in general, from an engineer who works
on them ... I remember hearing about Buchholtz relays that time large
areas of London lost power about 20 years ago.

<https://youtu.be/KIP6JqChefw?t=16>

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On 28/03/2025 10:07, Andy Burns wrote:

jon wrote:

Somebody should have been checking the transformer temperature

Some info about grid substations in general, from an engineer who works
on them ... I remember hearing about Buchholtz relays that time large
areas of London lost power about 20 years ago.

<https://youtu.be/KIP6JqChefw?t=16>

link does not work, I get the message:

This is a private video. Please sign in to verify that you may see it.

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SH wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Some info about grid substations in general, from an engineer who
works on them ... I remember hearing about Buchholtz relays that time
large areas of London lost power about 20 years ago.

<https://youtu.be/KIP6JqChefw?t=16>

link does not work, I get the message:
This is a private video. Please sign in to verify that you may see it.

"The video has been taken down for now
until the investigation is further along
and I’m allowed to comment on it again."

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In article <vs6hha$2vuem$1@dont-email.me>, SH <i.love@spam.com> scribeth
thus

On 28/03/2025 10:07, Andy Burns wrote:

jon wrote:

Somebody should have been checking the transformer temperature

Some info about grid substations in general, from an engineer who works
on them ... I remember hearing about Buchholtz relays that time large
areas of London lost power about 20 years ago.

<https://youtu.be/KIP6JqChefw?t=16>

link does not work, I get the message:

This is a private video. Please sign in to verify that you may see it.

Works OK for me, and its very informative and interesting way better
than the media bollix being put about!..
--
Tony Sayer


Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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In article <m4o0l2Fqc6bU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> scribeth thus

SH wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Some info about grid substations in general, from an engineer who
works on them ... I remember hearing about Buchholtz relays that time
large areas of London lost power about 20 years ago.

<https://youtu.be/KIP6JqChefw?t=16>

link does not work, I get the message:
This is a private video. Please sign in to verify that you may see it.

"The video has been taken down for now
until the investigation is further along
and I’m allowed to comment on it again."

Ah! spoke too soon, obviously the poor bloke is being leaned on i
reckon!..

--
Tony Sayer


Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

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SH wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Some info about grid substations in general, from an engineer who
works on them ... I remember hearing about Buchholtz relays that time
large areas of London lost power about 20 years ago.

link does not work, I get the message:
This is a private video. Please sign in to verify that you may see it.

He's replaced it with a more generic transformer video

<https://youtu.be/pyrtqRxJt90>

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In article <m5fcj9FipqiU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> scribeth thus

SH wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Some info about grid substations in general, from an engineer who
works on them ... I remember hearing about Buchholtz relays that time
large areas of London lost power about 20 years ago.

link does not work, I get the message:
This is a private video. Please sign in to verify that you may see it.

He's replaced it with a more generic transformer video

<https://youtu.be/pyrtqRxJt90>

And very good it is to, well explained:)
--
Tony Sayer


They shall beat their swords into ploughshares

And Nation shall speak peace unto nation.

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