My google-fu (well, actually, my duckduckgo-fu) has deserted me. A
couple of days ago I saw someone advertising ready drilled 'interior'
side panels for kitchen units, now I can't find them.

I mean the standard panels that are used on the sides of kitchen units
and which have ready drilled holes for hinges, drawers, etc.

Can anyone tell me who might sell them?

... or where can I get a standard template for doing it myself? I
actually want just the drilling (or marks) for 2 x pan drawer plus 1 x
cutlery drawer panels. We probably won't have any doors.


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Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

My google-fu (well, actually, my duckduckgo-fu) has deserted me. A
couple of days ago I saw someone advertising ready drilled 'interior'
side panels for kitchen units, now I can't find them.

I mean the standard panels that are used on the sides of kitchen units
and which have ready drilled holes for hinges, drawers, etc.

Can anyone tell me who might sell them?

... or where can I get a standard template for doing it myself? I
actually want just the drilling (or marks) for 2 x pan drawer plus 1 x cutlery drawer panels. We probably won't have any doors.

There's a variety of templates/jigs, eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToV8Tu7yB_4

5mm holes on 32mm centres, apparently.

There are tricks you can do to space out the holes, ie if you make a widget with correctly spaced two pegs and a hole, you can drill the first hole then locate the first peg in it to drill the second. Then move the two pegs into the holes and use the hole in your widget to drill the third. Move your
widget into the second and third holes and drill the fourth. Rinse and
repeat.

To make your widget, drill two holes in a piece of scrap exactly 32mm apart. Use those as a template to drill two holes in your widget. Then peg one
hole and mount your widget on the peg, and spin it around so you're using
the other hole in the scrap to drill the third hole in the widget exactly opposite the first hole (you need to ensure your widget and the scrap are square). Now you have 3 holes in your widget and can use it as your
template.

If that sounds like hassle you can buy ready made jigs: https://www.sealantsandtoolsdirect.co.uk/triton-tspj-ts-cupboard-shelf-support-hole-pin-jig-303468

Theo

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Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

My google-fu (well, actually, my duckduckgo-fu) has deserted me. A
couple of days ago I saw someone advertising ready drilled 'interior'
side panels for kitchen units, now I can't find them.

I mean the standard panels that are used on the sides of kitchen units
and which have ready drilled holes for hinges, drawers, etc.

Can anyone tell me who might sell them?

... or where can I get a standard template for doing it myself? I
actually want just the drilling (or marks) for 2 x pan drawer plus 1 x cutlery drawer panels. We probably won't have any doors.

There's a variety of templates/jigs, eg:

Correction, I was thinking of drawers that mount into shelf pin holes: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/komplement-pull-out-tray-white-20246360/

If you have regular drawer slides you can just screw them to the side panels
- the hole pattern will depend on what slides you have as I don't think
there's a standard.

For hinges there are jigs: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kreg-Company-KHI-HINGE-Concealed-Hinge/dp/B01JQ74FMQ (and cheaper Chinesium)

Theo

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On 25/03/2025 18:04, Theo wrote:

If you have regular drawer slides you can just screw them to the side panels - the hole pattern will depend on what slides you have as I don't think there's a standard.

Albiet 25 years apart, I replaced som kitchen carcasses and work top in
my kitchen but kept the doors to find the predrilled holes in the new
units didn't match the hinge positions in the old unit. I made a
drilling template out of some scrap hardboard and clamped that to the
carcass sides for drilling.

I also purchased some metal drawer boxes from the same manufacturer and
range as the carcasses and although the runner fitted the pre-drilled
holes I had to fix the drawer fronts in a different position.

I concur there may not be a standard between manufactures and/or between
model ranges for re-using parts or for runner possitions if using bought
in drawers.

What is standard is the size or drawer fronts or doors but not
necessarily the fixing positions for hinges or runners.


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Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

My google-fu (well, actually, my duckduckgo-fu) has deserted me. A
couple of days ago I saw someone advertising ready drilled 'interior' side panels for kitchen units, now I can't find them.

I mean the standard panels that are used on the sides of kitchen units and which have ready drilled holes for hinges, drawers, etc.

Can anyone tell me who might sell them?

... or where can I get a standard template for doing it myself? I actually want just the drilling (or marks) for 2 x pan drawer plus 1 x cutlery drawer panels. We probably won't have any doors.

There's a variety of templates/jigs, eg:

Correction, I was thinking of drawers that mount into shelf pin holes: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/komplement-pull-out-tray-white-20246360/

If you have regular drawer slides you can just screw them to the side panels - the hole pattern will depend on what slides you have as I don't think there's a standard.

For hinges there are jigs: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kreg-Company-KHI-HINGE-Concealed-Hinge/dp/B01JQ74FMQ (and cheaper Chinesium)

Actually I think I have a hinge hole jig, I'll have to check and see
what else might be on it.

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Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

My google-fu (well, actually, my duckduckgo-fu) has deserted me. A
couple of days ago I saw someone advertising ready drilled 'interior'
side panels for kitchen units, now I can't find them.

I mean the standard panels that are used on the sides of kitchen units
and which have ready drilled holes for hinges, drawers, etc.

Can anyone tell me who might sell them?

... or where can I get a standard template for doing it myself? I
actually want just the drilling (or marks) for 2 x pan drawer plus 1 x cutlery drawer panels. We probably won't have any doors.

I think you will find the hinge holes are standard being 32mm between
centres and 37mm centres in from the front. What may not be standard is
their position either from the top down or from the bottom up.

As far as drawer slides, if using Blum drawer kits they seem to conform to
the 32mm spacing and the 37mm from the front and likewise at the back.

When putting doors on our airing cupboard, I went to a replacement door specialist gave them my measurements for door size and hinge holes and they were absolutely spot on and although I could have drilled the holes myself
the cost was cheap enough to get them to do it and have the peace mind. The same company do plain panels for things like decor end panels and infills, whether they will drill hinge and drawer slide holes I am not sure but
worth asking as all their products are custom made so you get to match
whatever you need.

https://www.kitchendooroutlet.co.uk/

Richard

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On 25 Mar 2025 17:55:25 +0000 (GMT), Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

There are tricks you can do to space out the holes, ie if you make a widget >with correctly spaced two pegs and a hole, you can drill the first hole then >locate the first peg in it to drill the second. Then move the two pegs into >the holes and use the hole in your widget to drill the third. Move your >widget into the second and third holes and drill the fourth. Rinse and >repeat.

This way any error adds up...

Better to take a bit of scrap and mark 32, 64, 96 mm etc.

Do this in bit of MDF, 37 mm from the edge. Just small pinprick holes, mark the panel with a round pricker (a square one wears out the holes). Then drill with a
drill press, or freehand with a bit of wood on the wood drill bit as a depth stop to prevent going through.

Thomas Prufer

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Chris Green wrote:

A couple of days ago I saw someone advertising ready drilled
'interior' side panels for kitchen units, now I can't find them.>
I mean the standard panels that are used on the sides of kitchen units
and which have ready drilled holes for hinges, drawers, etc.

I don't think there's "a standard" as such, not in the manufacturers'
interests to make their doors/drawers fit our carcases ... maybe not
even all our range of doors/drawers fit our own carcases?

B&Q do sell decorative side panels, for where they are exposed at an
external corner, or end of a run of units, but are £25+ even for the
fairly plain ones ...

<https://www.diy.com/search?term=kitchen%20end%20panel>

Some bolt-on to the outside of a cabinet, making it 18mm wider,but
others are a replacement of the normal side panel and have the door/drawer/shelf holes drilled, good luck finding any that match what
you've already got ...

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Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:

Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

My google-fu (well, actually, my duckduckgo-fu) has deserted me. A
couple of days ago I saw someone advertising ready drilled 'interior'
side panels for kitchen units, now I can't find them.

I mean the standard panels that are used on the sides of kitchen units
and which have ready drilled holes for hinges, drawers, etc.

Can anyone tell me who might sell them?

... or where can I get a standard template for doing it myself? I
actually want just the drilling (or marks) for 2 x pan drawer plus 1 x cutlery drawer panels. We probably won't have any doors.

I think you will find the hinge holes are standard being 32mm between
centres and 37mm centres in from the front. What may not be standard is
their position either from the top down or from the bottom up.

As far as drawer slides, if using Blum drawer kits they seem to conform to the 32mm spacing and the 37mm from the front and likewise at the back.

Ah, that;s useful, thank you.

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On 26/03/2025 08:00, Thomas Prufer wrote:

On 25 Mar 2025 17:55:25 +0000 (GMT), Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

There are tricks you can do to space out the holes, ie if you make a widget >> with correctly spaced two pegs and a hole, you can drill the first hole then >> locate the first peg in it to drill the second. Then move the two pegs into >> the holes and use the hole in your widget to drill the third. Move your
widget into the second and third holes and drill the fourth. Rinse and
repeat.

This way any error adds up...

Yes, anyone has done any technical drawing for manufacture will tend to
take all dimensions from a common reference point, either from a centre
line or from a common edge to prevent errors building up.

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On 25/03/2025 17:00, Chris Green wrote:

My google-fu (well, actually, my duckduckgo-fu) has deserted me. A
couple of days ago I saw someone advertising ready drilled 'interior'
side panels for kitchen units, now I can't find them.

I mean the standard panels that are used on the sides of kitchen units
and which have ready drilled holes for hinges, drawers, etc.

Can anyone tell me who might sell them?

... or where can I get a standard template for doing it myself? I
actually want just the drilling (or marks) for 2 x pan drawer plus 1 x cutlery drawer panels. We probably won't have any doors.

Hinge jig. £2.25 which is cheap enough even if you don't use it
- https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/4007188691?iid=172923073472



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wasbit

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