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    From Marland@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 08:07:01 2025
    Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that
    is collected
    fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
    they contain a mucky residue.
    Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
    the legend and symbol
    “Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the jar.

    GH

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  • From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to Marland on Mon Apr 7 08:17:52 2025
    Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:

    Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that is collected
    fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
    they contain a mucky residue.
    Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
    the legend and symbol
    “Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
    jar.

    GH


    Might have been referring to the contents

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Marland on Mon Apr 7 09:32:39 2025
    On 07/04/2025 09:07, Marland wrote:

    Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that is collected
    fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
    they contain a mucky residue.
    Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
    the legend and symbol
    “Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
    jar.

    No idea. In general, borosilicate glass (Pyrex) cannot be recycled, but
    I can't see the jar being made of that as it would be too expensive.

    --
    Jeff

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Marland on Mon Apr 7 14:17:43 2025
    Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:

    Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that is collected
    fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
    they contain a mucky residue.
    Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
    the legend and symbol
    “Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
    jar.

    GH


    Can’t think why they might use Pyrex but I believe that’s not suitable for recycling.

    Tim

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    Please don't feed the trolls

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Marland on Mon Apr 7 19:19:51 2025
    On 07/04/2025 09:07, Marland wrote:

    Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that is collected
    fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
    they contain a mucky residue.
    Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
    the legend and symbol
    “Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
    jar.

    Can't help with that, but we have a different recycling problem.

    Our LA uses large woven plastic bags for a range of materials, including
    a blue one for cardboard.
    Over the years our bag started to fall apart due to hard use - so we
    asked for, & received, a replacement.
    Then it was a question of "What do we do with the old one?"
    The obvious answer was to recycle it.
    We put it into the appropriate container.
    The bin men carefully removed it from the container, and returned it to
    us...
    Rinse and repeat.
    It is apparently impossible to recycle a recycling container.

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    Sam Plusnet

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Tue Apr 8 13:59:59 2025
    On 07/04/2025 19:19, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    Our LA uses large woven plastic bags for a range of materials, including
    a blue one for cardboard.
    Over the years our bag started to fall apart due to hard use - so we
    asked for, & received, a replacement.
    Then it was a question of "What do we do with the old one?"
    The obvious answer was to recycle it.
    We put it into the appropriate container.
    The bin men carefully removed it from the container, and returned it to
    us...
    Rinse and repeat.
    It is apparently impossible to recycle a recycling container.

    LOL

    It is so much easier in our area (East Yorkshire) because *all*
    recycling (glass, hard plastic, paper/cardboard, tin cans) goes in a
    single (blue) bin and does not have to be kept separate inside the house
    and then put into separate bins/bags for roadsider collection.

    The only thing that is kept separate is food waste and garden rubbish
    which both go in a brown bin. That works in our favour because the food
    waste *had* to be collected every fortnight, and now *has* to be
    collected every week under a new Government scheme, so the side effect
    of that is that we get weekly collections of garden waste all year
    round. And we got them all through Covid.

    The East Yorkshire scheme gets high levels of recycling (and low levels
    of landfill) because it is so easy and is not micro-managed. It should
    become the national model for all councils.

    I still have to take excess garden waste to the tip at times when we do
    a lot of pruning, but even that is under cover: you drive up a ramp to
    the first-floor of huge a covered shed and then tip the garden waste, cardboard, wood, metal etc into separate skips at ground floor level. It
    pongs a bit in a hot summer, but at least you never get wet when it's
    raining, and you don't have to climb steps to reach the top of each skip.


    Where we lived before (North Yorkshire) we had a tatty "plastic-hessian"
    bag for cardboard, but it was so small that you had to rip cardboard
    boxes into small pieces - you couldn't just rip the edges of the box and
    put each side in whole. Cans and bottles were in a plastic crate with an ill-fitting lid which usually blew off in the wind, allowing the
    contents to blow all over the road.


    One way to improve recycling further would be to remove the requirement
    to wash bottles/cans/foil trays before recycling. When I've finished
    with something, it becomes rubbish that I want to get rid of and it is a
    real pain to try to find space in the dishwasher for bottles and trays -
    or to wash them by hand. Those things tend to go into landfill on the
    basis of "too f-ing hard to comply with the rules".

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Marland on Tue Apr 8 14:25:10 2025
    On 07/04/2025 09:07, Marland wrote:

    Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that is collected
    fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
    they contain a mucky residue.
    Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
    the legend and symbol
    “Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
    jar.

    A EU directive forbade the recycling of jars [1] not intended to be
    recycled. Kilner jars intended for reuse are fine.

    [1] It is down to the wording and their interpretation. The WI stated,
    for a while, that home made jam should not be sold in 'recycled' jars.

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  • From SteveW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 9 18:12:45 2025
    On 08/04/2025 13:59, NY wrote:
    On 07/04/2025 19:19, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    Our LA uses large woven plastic bags for a range of materials,
    including a blue one for cardboard.
    Over the years our bag started to fall apart due to hard use - so we
    asked for, & received, a replacement.
    Then it was a question of "What do we do with the old one?"
    The obvious answer was to recycle it.
    We put it into the appropriate container.
    The bin men carefully removed it from the container, and returned it
    to us...
    Rinse and repeat.
    It is apparently impossible to recycle a recycling container.

    LOL

    It is so much easier in our area (East Yorkshire) because *all*
    recycling (glass, hard plastic, paper/cardboard, tin cans) goes in a
    single (blue) bin and does not have to be kept separate inside the house
    and then put into separate bins/bags for roadsider collection.

    The only thing that is kept separate is food waste and garden rubbish
    which both go in a brown bin. That works in our favour because the food
    waste *had* to be collected every fortnight, and now *has* to be
    collected every week under a new Government scheme, so the side effect
    of that is that we get weekly collections of garden waste all year
    round. And we got them all through Covid.

    Our council will collect the green bin (food waste) every week, but from
    June, if we want to carry on putting garden waste in it, we'll have to
    pay an extra £50 a year and have a garden waste sticker on the bin.

    They tried to introduce this some years ago, but many people decided to
    go halves with neighbours or just take it to the tip themselves - with
    the result that they got far less money than they expected and they
    abandoned the charge.

    I shall go back to using my round bin for garden waste and taking it to
    the tip when I take other stuff.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to tricky.dicky@sky.com on Wed Apr 9 18:49:18 2025
    On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 08:17:52 -0000 (UTC), Tricky Dicky
    <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:

    Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:

    Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that >> is collected
    fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
    they contain a mucky residue.
    Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has
    the legend and symbol
    Do not recycle on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the >> jar.

    GH

    Might have been referring to the contents

    Could it be a translation problem from German? Could they mean 'Do
    not reuse'? I think the bottled water says not to refill the bottles.

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  • From SteveW@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Wed Apr 9 22:14:51 2025
    On 09/04/2025 21:42, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 9 Apr 2025 at 18:12:45 BST, "SteveW" <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:

    Our council will collect the green bin (food waste) every week, but from
    June, if we want to carry on putting garden waste in it, we'll have to
    pay an extra £50 a year and have a garden waste sticker on the bin.

    They tried to introduce this some years ago, but many people decided to
    go halves with neighbours or just take it to the tip themselves - with
    the result that they got far less money than they expected and they
    abandoned the charge.

    I shall go back to using my round bin for garden waste and taking it to
    the tip when I take other stuff.

    We pay extra for garden waste removal here, and I don't think that's unreasonable. Neither do I think the opverall service is bad, notwithstanding what Our Nige may think. We very often don't put any bins out because they are
    nowhere near full, so often it's a month between black bin (landfill) or recycling bins going out.

    Here, food waste and garden waste, if you pay for it, is collected
    weekly (240l Green bin); non-recyclable waste fortnightly (140l Grey
    bin); paper and card monthly (240l Blue bin); bottles, tins and some
    other plastics fortnightly (240l Black bin). So over 4 weeks, it goes
    Gn/Gy, Gn/Bu, Gn/Gy, Gn/Bk.

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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to SteveW on Wed Apr 9 20:42:02 2025
    On 9 Apr 2025 at 18:12:45 BST, "SteveW" <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:

    Our council will collect the green bin (food waste) every week, but from June, if we want to carry on putting garden waste in it, we'll have to
    pay an extra £50 a year and have a garden waste sticker on the bin.

    They tried to introduce this some years ago, but many people decided to
    go halves with neighbours or just take it to the tip themselves - with
    the result that they got far less money than they expected and they
    abandoned the charge.

    I shall go back to using my round bin for garden waste and taking it to
    the tip when I take other stuff.

    We pay extra for garden waste removal here, and I don't think that's unreasonable. Neither do I think the opverall service is bad, notwithstanding what Our Nige may think. We very often don't put any bins out because they are nowhere near full, so often it's a month between black bin (landfill) or recycling bins going out.

    --
    Tim

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Scott on Thu Apr 10 06:55:58 2025
    On 9 Apr 2025 at 18:49:18 BST, Scott wrote:

    On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 08:17:52 -0000 (UTC), Tricky Dicky
    <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:

    Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:

    Like many households we have a separate glass container collection bin that >>> is collected
    fortnightly. So bottles and jars go in sometimes after a quick rinse if
    they contain a mucky residue.
    Happened to notice that a jar from Lidl which contained Frankfurters has >>> the legend and symbol
    “Do not recycle” on the label. Anyone know why? What is special about the
    jar.

    GH

    Might have been referring to the contents

    Could it be a translation problem from German? Could they mean 'Do
    not reuse'? I think the bottled water says not to refill the bottles.

    They don't seem to be very clued up about UK recycling. I've tried asking them (Lidl) whether their tea bags are compostable* - no answer yet but plenty of 'we'll get back to you'.

    * apparently due https://corporate.lidl.co.uk/media-centre/pressreleases/2023/compostable-tea-bags
    but nothing on the box

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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to RJH on Thu Apr 10 07:52:42 2025
    On 10 Apr 2025 at 07:55:58 BST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

    On 9 Apr 2025 at 18:49:18 BST, Scott wrote:

    Could it be a translation problem from German? Could they mean 'Do
    not reuse'? I think the bottled water says not to refill the bottles.

    They don't seem to be very clued up about UK recycling. I've tried asking them
    (Lidl) whether their tea bags are compostable* - no answer yet but plenty of 'we'll get back to you'.

    * apparently due https://corporate.lidl.co.uk/media-centre/pressreleases/2023/compostable-tea-bags
    but nothing on the box

    Is why we continue to use loose tea. We compost all raw vegetable waste here, but cooked and meat waste (bones, etc) gets handed off to the food recycling/composting system.

    --
    "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their
    pockets for new vocabulary."

    James Nicoll, rasfw

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Thu Apr 10 19:48:22 2025
    On 09/04/2025 21:42, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 9 Apr 2025 at 18:12:45 BST, "SteveW" <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:

    Our council will collect the green bin (food waste) every week, but from
    June, if we want to carry on putting garden waste in it, we'll have to
    pay an extra £50 a year and have a garden waste sticker on the bin.

    They tried to introduce this some years ago, but many people decided to
    go halves with neighbours or just take it to the tip themselves - with
    the result that they got far less money than they expected and they
    abandoned the charge.

    I shall go back to using my round bin for garden waste and taking it to
    the tip when I take other stuff.

    We pay extra for garden waste removal here, and I don't think that's unreasonable. Neither do I think the opverall service is bad, notwithstanding what Our Nige may think. We very often don't put any bins out because they are
    nowhere near full, so often it's a month between black bin (landfill) or recycling bins going out.

    I know there is a garden waste collection here but we have never used it. Everything is either composted, shredded & used as mulch, or split for firewood.

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 14 17:41:56 2025
    On 08/04/2025 13:59, NY wrote:
    <snip>
    The only thing that is kept separate is food waste and garden rubbish
    which both go in a brown bin. That works in our favour because the food
    waste *had* to be collected every fortnight, and now *has* to be
    collected every week under a new Government scheme, so the side effect
    of that is that we get weekly collections of garden waste all year
    round. And we got them all through Covid.
    </snip>

    Do you have a reference for that new government scheme? I'd love to be
    able to wave it at our council, which only does fortnightly collections.

    Andy

    --
    Do not listen to rumour, but, if you do, do not believe it.
    Ghandi.

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