In Brum.

Only lasted a couple of minutes.

All those air conditioners coming online at once across the UK.

(Makes note to never buy an electric car).

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Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> Wrote in message:r

In Brum.Only lasted a couple of minutes.All those air conditioners coming online at once across the UK.(Makes note to never buy an electric car).

Ha! EV owners with a 240V V2L supply facilty will be amused by
your self inflicted foot shooting.

What would you rather have in a power cut, no power or 2-3kW
supplied by your EV?

Tim


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On 01/05/2025 11:40, tim+ wrote:

Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> Wrote in message:r

In Brum.Only lasted a couple of minutes.All those air conditioners coming online at once across the UK.(Makes note to never buy an electric car).

Ha! EV owners with a 240V V2L supply facilty will be amused by
your self inflicted foot shooting.

What would you rather have in a power cut, no power or 2-3kW
supplied by your EV?

I think I would rather have 3kW from my generator, and several days
worth of mobility from the car :-)


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John.

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On 01/05/2025 11:40, tim+ wrote:

Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> Wrote in message:r

In Brum.Only lasted a couple of minutes.All those air conditioners coming online at once across the UK.(Makes note to never buy an electric car).

Ha! EV owners with a 240V V2L supply facilty will be amused by
your self inflicted foot shooting.

What would you rather have in a power cut, no power or 2-3kW
supplied by your EV?

Couldn't you just sit in the car with its aircon on to keep cool? It's a
small space to keep cool especially if you're out of the sun in a
garage. Any idea what sort of energy usage there would be to keep the
inside of the car comfortable?

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Jeff

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Jeff Layman wrote:

Couldn't you just sit in the car with its aircon on to keep cool?

I generally just go for a drive, rather than sit there

Any idea what sort of energy usage there would be to keep the
inside of the car comfortable?

My car estimates the fuel load of the aircon, ISTR it's between 0.25 and
0.5 litres of petrol an hour.

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On Thu, 1 May 2025 09:29:44 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk
<jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

In Brum.

Only lasted a couple of minutes.

All those air conditioners coming online at once across the UK.

(Makes note to never buy an electric car).

It's contagious
https://jakartaglobe.id/news/blackout-hits-tourist-haven-bali :

<quote>
Bali. Popular tourist hotspot Bali is suffering a blackout with the
power being out since Friday at 4 p.m. local time.

Power has yet to return at the time of the writing. Beritasatu.com
reported that the blackout had disrupted some transactions in Bali.

"There were problems with payments at transactions. It was a chaos
since people weren't able to pay. The same goes for transactions at
tattoo parlors. Customers use credit cards and they can't even find a
signal," local man Reza told Beritasatu.com.

The blackout had also led to traffic jams everywhere as traffic lights
were unable to function. Reza also revealed that the power outage made
it difficult for online ride-hailing drivers to find customers. He
added: "Because we don't have any signal."

The Bali branch of the state-run utility firm PLN attributed the
blackout to issues on the Java-Bali submarine cables, thus affecting
its power plants.

"We would like to apologize for the inconvenience. We are currently
focusing on restoring the system before normalizing the load," a
statement by PLN reads.
</quote>


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AnthonyL

Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

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On 01/05/2025 13:35, Andy Burns wrote:

Jeff Layman wrote:

Couldn't you just sit in the car with its aircon on to keep cool?

I generally just go for a drive, rather than sit there

Any idea what sort of energy usage there would be to keep the inside
of the car comfortable?

My car estimates the fuel load of the aircon, ISTR it's between 0.25 and
0.5 litres of petrol an hour.

I presume that is over and above the fuel usage for the engine idling
with the air con turned off (ie air compressor mechanically disengaged).

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On 02/05/2025 20:43, NY wrote:

On 01/05/2025 13:35, Andy Burns wrote:

Jeff Layman wrote:

Couldn't you just sit in the car with its aircon on to keep cool?

I generally just go for a drive, rather than sit there

Any idea what sort of energy usage there would be to keep the inside
of the car comfortable?

My car estimates the fuel load of the aircon, ISTR it's between 0.25
and 0.5 litres of petrol an hour.

I presume that is over and above the fuel usage for the engine idling
with the air con turned off (ie air compressor mechanically disengaged).

I doubt it. My engine uses so much fuel when in traffic it ruins any MPG targets I set.

The worst is traffic lights or traffic jams. Stop car lose all kinetic
energy, move car to next stoppage, regenerate its kinetic energy etc.


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Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

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On 03/05/2025 11:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 02/05/2025 20:43, NY wrote:

On 01/05/2025 13:35, Andy Burns wrote:

Jeff Layman wrote:

Couldn't you just sit in the car with its aircon on to keep cool?

I generally just go for a drive, rather than sit there

Any idea what sort of energy usage there would be to keep the inside
of the car comfortable?

My car estimates the fuel load of the aircon, ISTR it's between 0.25
and 0.5 litres of petrol an hour.

I presume that is over and above the fuel usage for the engine idling
with the air con turned off (ie air compressor mechanically disengaged).

I doubt it. My engine uses so much fuel when in traffic it ruins any MPG targets I set.

The worst is traffic lights or traffic jams. Stop car lose all kinetic energy, move car to next stoppage, regenerate its kinetic energy etc.

Ah. I presumed that "My car estimates the fuel load of the aircon"
implied that he'd taken two readings, one with the engine idling and
air-con off, and the second with engine idling and air-con on, and
subtracted the two, to eliminate fuel used simply in keeping the engine
ticking over.

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