It has happened a few times, to the 49 inch LG set, but has not affected
two other smaller, slightly more recent LG's in the house....

We are able to receive signals from three regional main transmitters. Yorkshire, the North/east, and Tyne/Tees. Yorkshire being the correct
one and the strongest by far.

Sometimes, but twice this week - we switch the set on a morning, and a
white panel appears at the lower half of the screen, wanting us to set
up the location (transmitter). It only allows the choice of England, and North/east.

The only workaround is to go into settings, and let it do a full retune,
which again allows the choice of the three main transmitters.

The settings, include a place to set up my home postcode, entering that,
it finds the correct location anyway.

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On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:36:39 +0100, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

On 20:20 1 May 2025, Harry Bloomfield Esq said:

It has happened a few times, to the 49 inch LG set, but has not
affected two other smaller, slightly more recent LG's in the
house....

We are able to receive signals from three regional main transmitters.
Yorkshire, the North/east, and Tyne/Tees. Yorkshire being the correct
one and the strongest by far.

Sometimes, but twice this week - we switch the set on a morning, and
a white panel appears at the lower half of the screen, wanting us to
set up the location (transmitter). It only allows the choice of
England, and North/east.

The only workaround is to go into settings, and let it do a full
retune, which again allows the choice of the three main transmitters.

The settings, include a place to set up my home postcode, entering
that, it finds the correct location anyway.

Perhaps there is an option to disable automatic tuning, which should
prevent this.

It is not practical on my LG, unlike my ancient Topfield which I can
set to Waltham transmissions only, or more and then remove any
unwanted channels (by transmitter if desired) and then store the
preferences for next time I might need to do a retune.


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On 02/05/2025 12:51, AnthonyL wrote:

On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:36:39 +0100, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

On 20:20 1 May 2025, Harry Bloomfield Esq said:

It has happened a few times, to the 49 inch LG set, but has not
affected two other smaller, slightly more recent LG's in the
house....

We are able to receive signals from three regional main transmitters.
Yorkshire, the North/east, and Tyne/Tees. Yorkshire being the correct
one and the strongest by far.

Sometimes, but twice this week - we switch the set on a morning, and
a white panel appears at the lower half of the screen, wanting us to
set up the location (transmitter). It only allows the choice of
England, and North/east.

The only workaround is to go into settings, and let it do a full
retune, which again allows the choice of the three main transmitters.

The settings, include a place to set up my home postcode, entering
that, it finds the correct location anyway.

Perhaps there is an option to disable automatic tuning, which should
prevent this.

It is not practical on my LG, unlike my ancient Topfield which I can
set to Waltham transmissions only, or more and then remove any
unwanted channels (by transmitter if desired) and then store the
preferences for next time I might need to do a retune.

Does the tuning logic in a TV always ensure that all the 3 or 6
multiplexes that it is tuned to are from the *same* transmitter, in
cases where you can receive muxes from more than one transmitter?

The TV at my parents' holiday cottage in Wensleydale has an aerial
pointing towards Bilsdale. But one day I noticed that ITV was showing
the Leeds-based Calendar local news instead of the Newcastle-based
equivalent. I checked the TV's tuning menu and all the UHF frequencies
were for Bilsdale except PSB2 which was an unknown frequency which I
presume was PSB2 for a relay of Emley Moor. I wish I'd noted what the
frequency was...

To this day I can't think which relay of EM would have a strong enough
signal to be picked up near Leyburn with an aerial that was pointing due
east at Bilsdale, even during abnormal signal propagation.

I've had Belmont on that aerial very occasionally, using my own
DVB-T2/USB tuner, which is going some for a transmitter which is about
95 miles away and at about 45 degrees off the aerial's peak-sensitivity
axis.

Mind you, where we are now (Bridlington), Belmont's signal is very
occasionally denatured by Crystal Palace's which is on almost the same
bearing but 185 miles away! Belmont and CP share all the same
frequencies :-( As an aside, I wonder if the interference would be any better/worse if it was the same mux from both transmitters, than if (as
is the case in reality) different muxes.

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On 02/05/2025 21:27, NY wrote:

Does the tuning logic in a TV always ensure that all the 3 or 6
multiplexes that it is tuned to are from the *same* transmitter, in
cases where you can receive muxes from more than one transmitter?

No, but the pattern of frequencies employed, does.

That is, one frequency is one transmitter and one mux.

The frequencies are deliberately spaced far apart from the *next*
transmitter


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On 02/05/2025 21:27, NY wrote:

Does the tuning logic in a TV always ensure that all the 3 or 6
multiplexes that it is tuned to are from the *same* transmitter, in
cases where you can receive muxes from more than one transmitter?

Yes, is by far the stronger signal - the other transmitters are
receivable, but variable, and can break up.

The TV at my parents' holiday cottage in Wensleydale has an aerial
pointing towards Bilsdale. But one day I noticed that ITV was showing
the Leeds-based Calendar local news instead of the Newcastle-based equivalent. I checked the TV's tuning menu and all the UHF frequencies
were for Bilsdale except PSB2 which was an unknown frequency which I
presume was PSB2 for a relay of Emley Moor. I wish I'd noted what the frequency was...

I was staying up there, when it caught fire, and the signal went off.

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On 03/05/2025 17:39, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:

On 02/05/2025 21:27, NY wrote:

Does the tuning logic in a TV always ensure that all the 3 or 6
multiplexes that it is tuned to are from the *same* transmitter, in
cases where you can receive muxes from more than one transmitter?

Yes, is by far the stronger signal - the other transmitters are
receivable, but variable, and can break up.

Doesn't necessarily mean that your set wont have two 'BBC1's'

I can definitely receive two transmitters though one is rather weak and
in a different direction


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On 03/05/2025 19:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Doesn't necessarily mean that your set wont have two 'BBC1's'

I can definitely receive two transmitters though one is rather weak and
in a different direction

It will receive from all three main transmitters, and after a retune,
will offer a choice of which transmitter to use as it's local one, but
it never then allows you to switch to any none-local transmitter.

Our local transmitter, is the last of the three it finds.

When the white panel appears, asking for the transmitter to be chosen - completely out of the blue, at switch on, usually to watch BBC1, on a
morning, I also notice it has somehow switched to the BBC1 north-west transmitter, from the BBC 1 Yorkshire it had been on the, the evening
before.

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On 03/05/2025 19:46, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:

On 03/05/2025 19:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Doesn't necessarily mean that your set wont have two 'BBC1's'

I can definitely receive two transmitters though one is rather weak
and in a different direction

It will receive from all three main transmitters, and after a retune,
will offer a choice of which transmitter to use as it's local one, but
it never then allows you to switch to any none-local transmitter.

That is a function of the TV software.
I've had TVS quite happy to display more than one copy of the same channel

Our local transmitter, is the last of the three it finds.

When the white panel appears, asking for the transmitter to be chosen - completely out of the blue, at switch on, usually to watch BBC1, on a morning, I also notice it has somehow switched to the BBC1 north-west transmitter, from the BBC 1 Yorkshire it had been on the, the evening
before.

Well it sounds like a crap TV


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kind word alone.

Al Capone

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