• What is this thing coming out of a Heat Interface Unit and why does it

    From Simon Ferrol@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 6 15:24:32 2025
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see,
    there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    I reported this to the Council, but they said the engineer came and
    couldn't find anything faulty.

    I need to know what that thing is called and why it is leaking so that I
    can go back to the Council and have the job done.

    I have the same unit at home but I don't have that thing coming out of
    the unit.

    Thanks in advance.

    SF

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Tue May 6 15:35:03 2025
    On 06/05/2025 15:24, Simon Ferrol wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see, there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    I reported this to the Council, but they said the engineer came and
    couldn't find anything faulty.

    I need to know what that thing is called and why it is leaking so that I
    can go back to the Council and have the job done.

    I have the same unit at home but I don't have that thing coming out of
    the unit.
    Is the rusty thing made of metal?

    could be a non-return valve can't really think why one should be needed
    there, send the council your video and tell them to look closely for the
    drip of water?

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Dicky on Tue May 6 16:53:58 2025
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    I am not familiar with that type of boiler but looks to me as the outlet
    for the pressure relief valve. Try and establish if that pipe simply goes
    to the outside. If so it is the PRV outlet. If it is the PRV then it should not be spitting out as any water flowing through the pipe is not under pressure even if the pipe fitting is loose. It might be blocked somewhere
    and as a result back filled with water.

    It does look like a version of a tundish on the outlet of the PRV: https://www.screwfix.com/p/mcalpine-tundish-19-23mm-x-19-23mm/5684v
    (in theory clear plastic, but with added rusty grime)

    It sounds like two problems. First the PRV shouldn't be opening to put
    water here, second the piping around the tundish shouldn't be dripping.
    The second might be because the overflow is blocked, but the first suggests overpressure which is a fault.

    Theo

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  • From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Tue May 6 15:43:13 2025
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see, there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    I reported this to the Council, but they said the engineer came and
    couldn't find anything faulty.

    I need to know what that thing is called and why it is leaking so that I
    can go back to the Council and have the job done.

    I have the same unit at home but I don't have that thing coming out of
    the unit.

    Thanks in advance.

    SF


    I am not familiar with that type of boiler but looks to me as the outlet
    for the pressure relief valve. Try and establish if that pipe simply goes
    to the outside. If so it is the PRV outlet. If it is the PRV then it should
    not be spitting out as any water flowing through the pipe is not under
    pressure even if the pipe fitting is loose. It might be blocked somewhere
    and as a result back filled with water.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Tue May 6 16:58:59 2025
    On 06/05/2025 15:24, Simon Ferrol wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see, there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    I reported this to the Council, but they said the engineer came and
    couldn't find anything faulty.

    I need to know what that thing is called and why it is leaking so that I
    can go back to the Council and have the job done.

    I have the same unit at home but I don't have that thing coming out of
    the unit.

    Thanks in advance.

    Without knowing the exact model it is difficult to diagnose. It looks
    like a pipe under pressure from the fittings used.

    I think Simon has the best suggestion. And ask why the engineer couldn't
    find anything, despite there being an obvious leak?

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 6 17:01:39 2025
    On 06/05/2025 17:00, GB wrote:
    On 06/05/2025 15:24, Simon Ferrol wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please. And
    with a close up of the leaky bit.

    ^^ I meant interface, not boiler.



    At the moment, my best guess is that the leaky bit is not part of the
    heat interface at all. It's just been poked under the cover of the
    interface for neatness.

    It might well be an automatic air vent. In that case, a tiny bit of
    water spitting out with the air may not matter much, and that might
    explain why the engineer thought there was nothing wrong.

    To put a new AAV on might involve draining a large part of the system,
    so why bother?



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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Tue May 6 17:00:06 2025
    On 06/05/2025 15:24, Simon Ferrol wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please.
    And with a close up of the leaky bit.

    At the moment, my best guess is that the leaky bit is not part of the
    heat interface at all. It's just been poked under the cover of the
    interface for neatness.

    It might well be an automatic air vent. In that case, a tiny bit of
    water spitting out with the air may not matter much, and that might
    explain why the engineer thought there was nothing wrong.

    To put a new AAV on might involve draining a large part of the system,
    so why bother?

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Tue May 6 16:45:02 2025
    In article <vvdbk2$399ef$1@dont-email.me>,
    Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
    On 06/05/2025 15:24, Simon Ferrol wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see, there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    I reported this to the Council, but they said the engineer came and couldn't find anything faulty.

    I need to know what that thing is called and why it is leaking so that I can go back to the Council and have the job done.

    I have the same unit at home but I don't have that thing coming out of
    the unit.

    Thanks in advance.

    Without knowing the exact model it is difficult to diagnose. It looks
    like a pipe under pressure from the fittings used.

    I think Simon has the best suggestion. And ask why the engineer couldn't
    find anything, despite there being an obvious leak?

    possibly, he wasn't an Engineer.

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Dicky on Tue May 6 17:12:54 2025
    On 6 May 2025 at 16:43:13 BST, Tricky Dicky wrote:

    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see,
    there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    I reported this to the Council, but they said the engineer came and
    couldn't find anything faulty.

    I need to know what that thing is called and why it is leaking so that I
    can go back to the Council and have the job done.

    I have the same unit at home but I don't have that thing coming out of
    the unit.

    Thanks in advance.

    SF


    I am not familiar with that type of boiler but looks to me as the outlet
    for the pressure relief valve. Try and establish if that pipe simply goes
    to the outside. If so it is the PRV outlet. If it is the PRV then it should not be spitting out as any water flowing through the pipe is not under pressure even if the pipe fitting is loose. It might be blocked somewhere
    and as a result back filled with water.

    Shouldn't the PRV pipework be copper, and not plastic, so close to the boiler? Or indeed any pipework?

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Theo on Tue May 6 19:32:56 2025
    On 06/05/2025 16:53, Theo wrote:
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    I am not familiar with that type of boiler but looks to me as the outlet
    for the pressure relief valve. Try and establish if that pipe simply goes
    to the outside. If so it is the PRV outlet. If it is the PRV then it should >> not be spitting out as any water flowing through the pipe is not under
    pressure even if the pipe fitting is loose. It might be blocked somewhere
    and as a result back filled with water.

    It does look like a version of a tundish on the outlet of the PRV: https://www.screwfix.com/p/mcalpine-tundish-19-23mm-x-19-23mm/5684v
    (in theory clear plastic, but with added rusty grime)

    It sounds like two problems. First the PRV shouldn't be opening to put
    water here, second the piping around the tundish shouldn't be dripping.
    The second might be because the overflow is blocked, but the first suggests overpressure which is a fault.

    Theo
    My MPHW tank did this - tuned out to be a faulty pressure regulator.
    Check the hot water pressure if you can - should be no more than 2 .5
    bar or thereabouts.

    Likely culprit if ion a hard water area is scale

    I managed to replace mine OK, but its not for the faint hearted


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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to RJH on Wed May 7 13:19:02 2025
    On 06/05/2025 18:12, RJH wrote:
    On 6 May 2025 at 16:43:13 BST, Tricky Dicky wrote:

    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see,
    there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    I reported this to the Council, but they said the engineer came and
    couldn't find anything faulty.

    I need to know what that thing is called and why it is leaking so that I >>> can go back to the Council and have the job done.

    I have the same unit at home but I don't have that thing coming out of
    the unit.

    Thanks in advance.

    SF


    I am not familiar with that type of boiler but looks to me as the outlet
    for the pressure relief valve. Try and establish if that pipe simply goes
    to the outside. If so it is the PRV outlet. If it is the PRV then it should >> not be spitting out as any water flowing through the pipe is not under
    pressure even if the pipe fitting is loose. It might be blocked somewhere
    and as a result back filled with water.

    Shouldn't the PRV pipework be copper, and not plastic, so close to the boiler?
    Or indeed any pipework?

    Good point. Many boiler installation instruction require a minimum
    length of copper from the flow side. However after checking for my
    Intergas boiler I can't see any stipulation so seemingly not a universal requirement.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Thu May 8 16:12:05 2025
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please. And with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    This:
    https://ibb.co/fVyGsgKF

    appears to be showing 3.5 bar. Worcester say the pressure should be 1-1.5
    bar when cold and up to another 1 bar when hot: https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/troubleshooting/faqs/all-faqs/how-often-should-i-need-to-top-up-the-pressure-in-the-heating-system

    So the boiler is over pressure, which explains why the pressure release
    valve is dumping water.

    Theo

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  • From Simon Ferrol@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 8 15:27:40 2025
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please. And
    with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    SF

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Theo on Thu May 8 15:33:10 2025
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please. And
    with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    This:
    https://ibb.co/fVyGsgKF

    appears to be showing 3.5 bar. Worcester say the pressure should be 1-1.5 bar when cold and up to another 1 bar when hot: https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/troubleshooting/faqs/all-faqs/how-often-should-i-need-to-top-up-the-pressure-in-the-heating-system

    So the boiler is over pressure, which explains why the pressure release
    valve is dumping water.


    9 times out of 10 this means that the expansion vessel has lost its charge
    and needs repressurising or replacing.

    Tim

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  • From Alan Lee@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Thu May 8 18:21:43 2025
    On 06/05/2025 15:24, Simon Ferrol wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see, there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    It is the condensate drain off. It looks like the fitting has come apart slightly. If the condensate tank wasnt full when it was checked by the
    Council, then it is quite possible that it was running fine when it was checked, and no leak could be seen. These have a small tank inside the
    boiler, the condensate comes out in one flow when the tank is full,
    rather than constantly dribbling out like some boilers.
    Its a simple procedure to take it apart and refit it correctly, and also
    check the outlet pipe is clear, as, if that isnt clear, it will back up
    and eventually turn off the boiler.
    It looks like it needs a good clean, something that should be done on an
    annual service, but one of the things that is easily ignored.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Theo on Thu May 8 21:36:52 2025
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please. And with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    This:
    https://ibb.co/fVyGsgKF

    They've decided you need registration to see that. Let me try a
    different sharing site:
    https://bashify.io/i/v5XO3b

    appears to be showing 3.5 bar. Worcester say the pressure should be 1-1.5 bar when cold and up to another 1 bar when hot: https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/troubleshooting/faqs/all-faqs/how-often-should-i-need-to-top-up-the-pressure-in-the-heating-system

    So the boiler is over pressure, which explains why the pressure release
    valve is dumping water.

    Theo

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Theo on Thu May 8 21:28:23 2025
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please. And >>>> with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    This:
    https://ibb.co/fVyGsgKF

    They've decided you need registration to see that. Let me try a
    different sharing site:
    https://bashify.io/i/v5XO3b

    appears to be showing 3.5 bar. Worcester say the pressure should be 1-1.5 >> bar when cold and up to another 1 bar when hot:
    https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/troubleshooting/faqs/all-faqs/how-often-should-i-need-to-top-up-the-pressure-in-the-heating-system

    So the boiler is over pressure, which explains why the pressure release
    valve is dumping water.

    Theo


    I wonder if someone has left the filling loop turned on?

    Tim

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  • From me9@21:1/5 to Theo on Thu May 8 23:54:02 2025
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please.
    And with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    This: https://ibb.co/fVyGsgKF

    appears to be showing 3.5 bar. Worcester say the pressure should be 1-1.5 bar when cold and up to another 1 bar when hot:

    https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/troubleshooting/faqs/all-faqs/how-often-should-i-need-to-top-up-the-pressure-in-the-heating-system

    So the boiler is over pressure, which explains why the pressure release
    valve is dumping water.

    Usually due to a leaking valve on the filling loop, which legally should be removed after use, but never is.


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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 13:17:26 2025
    On 08/05/2025 23:54, me9 wrote:
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please.
    And with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    This: https://ibb.co/fVyGsgKF

    appears to be showing 3.5 bar. Worcester say the pressure should be 1-1.5 >> bar when cold and up to another 1 bar when hot:

    https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/troubleshooting/faqs/all-faqs/how-often-should-i-need-to-top-up-the-pressure-in-the-heating-system

    So the boiler is over pressure, which explains why the pressure release
    valve is dumping water.

    Usually due to a leaking valve on the filling loop, which legally should be removed after use, but never is.

    Is there really a law about removing filling loops? If so, what?

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Fri May 9 14:37:04 2025
    On 09/05/2025 13:17, Max Demian wrote:
    On 08/05/2025 23:54, me9 wrote:
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please.
    And with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    This: https://ibb.co/fVyGsgKF

    appears to be showing 3.5 bar.  Worcester say the pressure should be
    1-1.5
    bar when cold and up to another 1 bar when hot:

    https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/troubleshooting/faqs/all-faqs/how-often-should-i-need-to-top-up-the-pressure-in-the-heating-system

    So the boiler is over pressure, which explains why the pressure release
    valve is dumping water.

    Usually due to a leaking valve on the filling loop, which legally
    should be
    removed after use, but never is.

    Is there really a law about removing filling loops? If so, what?


    I dunno. Mine is in regular use - no idea where the leak is - every 4
    months or so.

    --
    "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
    that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

    Jonathan Swift.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Alan Lee on Fri May 9 14:17:11 2025
    On 08/05/2025 18:21, Alan Lee wrote:
    On 06/05/2025 15:24, Simon Ferrol wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can
    see, there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and
    overflowing.

    It is the condensate drain off. It looks like the fitting has come apart slightly. If the condensate tank wasnt full when it was checked by the Council, then it is quite possible that it was running fine when it was checked, and no leak could be seen. These have a small tank inside the boiler, the condensate comes out in one flow when the tank is full,
    rather than constantly dribbling out like some boilers.
    Its a simple procedure to take it apart and refit it correctly, and also check the outlet pipe is clear, as, if that isnt clear, it will back up
    and eventually turn off the boiler.
    It looks like it needs a good clean, something that should be done on an annual service, but one of the things that is easily ignored.

    Condensate isn't normally coloured brown.

    I would wager the PRV is weeping given the boiler pressure reading on
    the gauge.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay on Fri May 9 14:40:43 2025
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    GB:
    Could you do another video looking upwards into the boiler, please. And >>>> with a close up of the leaky bit.


    Here it is. This is the best I could do:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSKHZ7oQoiATNMUWtcwRd6ma4RAcwEDD/view

    This:
    https://ibb.co/fVyGsgKF

    They've decided you need registration to see that. Let me try a
    different sharing site:
    https://bashify.io/i/v5XO3b

    appears to be showing 3.5 bar. Worcester say the pressure should be 1-1.5 >> bar when cold and up to another 1 bar when hot:
    https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/troubleshooting/faqs/all-faqs/how-often-should-i-need-to-top-up-the-pressure-in-the-heating-system

    So the boiler is over pressure, which explains why the pressure release
    valve is dumping water.

    Theo


    I wonder if someone has left the filling loop turned on?

    There's a flexi hose in the video with a screwdriver isolation valve on the
    end of it. The camera moves too fast for anything to be in focus but best I can
    make out is the valve head is at 90 degrees to the pipe, ie the valve is
    turned off.

    Theo

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  • From Alan Lee@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Fri May 9 18:00:35 2025
    On 09/05/2025 14:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Usually due to a leaking valve on the filling loop, which legally
    should be
    removed after use, but never is.

    Is there really a law about removing filling loops? If so, what?


    It could be breaking the Water Regulations, but, if there is a check
    valve on the loop, and another check valve on the incoming supply, then
    it would be very hard for there to be any backflow, so almost impossible
    to break the Water Regs. <https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/1148/schedule/2/paragraph/15/made>

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  • From Alan Lee@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Fri May 9 18:10:07 2025
    On 09/05/2025 14:17, Fredxx wrote:
    On 08/05/2025 18:21, Alan Lee wrote:

    It is the condensate drain off.

    Condensate isn't normally coloured brown.

    I would wager the PRV is weeping given the boiler pressure reading on
    the gauge.

    Page 21 of the installation manual shows the connections. It is the
    condensate.
    The PRV should be copper until it reaches a drain point, or goes
    outside. Page 12 of the installation manual. <https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/literature/download/6720811922>

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Alan Lee on Fri May 9 19:27:28 2025
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 09/05/2025 14:17, Fredxx wrote:
    On 08/05/2025 18:21, Alan Lee wrote:

    It is the condensate drain off.

    Condensate isn't normally coloured brown.

    I would wager the PRV is weeping given the boiler pressure reading on
    the gauge.

    Page 21 of the installation manual shows the connections. It is the condensate.
    The PRV should be copper until it reaches a drain point, or goes
    outside. Page 12 of the installation manual. <https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/support/literature/download/6720811922>


    That doesn’t fit with the OPs photos. Tun dishes aren’t fitted to condensate drains normally.

    Tim

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Simon Ferrol on Fri May 9 19:29:02 2025
    Simon Ferrol <simon.ferrol@englandmail.com> wrote:
    I have made a video of a leak from a Greenstar Heat Interface Unit:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jFRVAvcXaFRKC_wlNaf-zjAJy8uou5Ss/view


    This is in the common room of our Council estate block. As you can see, there's a kind of valve that is spitting rusty water and overflowing.

    I reported this to the Council, but they said the engineer came and
    couldn't find anything faulty.

    I need to know what that thing is called and why it is leaking so that I
    can go back to the Council and have the job done.

    I have the same unit at home but I don't have that thing coming out of
    the unit.

    Thanks in advance.

    SF


    Am I the only one puzzling over “heat interface unit”? I haven’t a scooby what this means.

    Tim

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Fri May 9 20:29:36 2025
    On 09/05/2025 14:17, Fredxx wrote:


    Condensate isn't normally coloured brown.

    In the video the drips of water are clear. Could the brown discolour be
    a mould on a fitting that has remained damp for some time.



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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun May 11 15:14:46 2025
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Tim+ wrote:

    Am I the only one puzzling over “heat interface unit”? I haven’t a scooby
    what this means.
    In a building such a tower of flats, there's a central boiler with hot
    water loop, and each heat interface is a heat exchanger with a heat
    meter for billing (based on flow rate and temperature difference).


    But that’s not what the OPs picture looked like. It looked like a standard combi or system boiler.

    Tim

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 11 15:42:26 2025
    Tim+ wrote:

    Am I the only one puzzling over “heat interface unit”? I haven’t a scooby
    what this means.
    In a building such a tower of flats, there's a central boiler with hot
    water loop, and each heat interface is a heat exchanger with a heat
    meter for billing (based on flow rate and temperature difference).

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